Rabies Switch: -30/30 vs. DWeb

[trooper]

Rabies with plaguebearer, swith to grief pb and fury
nothign else comes close to this in effectiveness.

[Summerfun]

Rabies with plaguebearer, swith to grief pb and fury
nothign else comes close to this in effectiveness.

Rabies with Greif/botd and storm
Switch to DW and 20/-20
Then switch back to main weapon and fury.

thats 10 times better

[trooper]

Rabies with Greif/botd and storm
Switch to DW and 20/-20
Then switch back to main weapon and fury.

thats 10 times better

no it's not

[trooper]

I can't believe I have to type al of this crap again omfg...

You can basically have either 85k+ rabies with -25% or 30-50k rabies with -75%, now we need to determine which is bettter to have

There are basically 3 differant situations you can come up against.
Your eenmy will have crappy poison res, decent poison res (75 about) or stacked posion res

situation 1, crappy poison res. so in hell your target has 5 poison res, after the -75 res he has -70, so you're doing 70% more damage for a total of 50k * 1.7 =85k damage

or you can have 85k posion damage with -25 res, well if he has -20 after, you do 85k * 1.20 = 102k

not that it really matters becasue if they have crappy poison res they're goign to die quickly regardless of your setup

situation 2: they have decent res say 75 in hell without stack
after -75% they have 0 so you do 30-50k damage
or after -25% they still have 50 res so you're only doing about 42k damage
the dweb is slightly better, but i have yet to see 85k rabies ever fail to kill anythign in 1 hit

and situation 3, which i think will be the most common, stacked res is ez on any char and it's nto liek you're a cold sorc, will be stacked res.
so say they've got 75% res stacked to 100, which is ez, especialyl since so many chars have treks
you can do 30-50k damage, your -res will do nothign so they'll cut your damage to under 10k

or you can have 85k damage which will be over 21k, clearly plague bearer is better.

dweb is slightly better in 1 type of situation, hardly the choice I'd make.

[jesterlolz]

and situation 3, which i think will be the most common, stacked res is ez on any char and it's nto liek you're a cold sorc, will be stacked res.
so say they've got 75% res stacked to 100, which is ez, especialyl since so many chars have treks
you can do 30-50k damage, your -res will do nothign so they'll cut your damage to under 10k

or you can have 85k damage which will be over 21k, clearly plague bearer is better.

dweb is slightly better in 1 type of situation, hardly the choice I'd make.

If they are only stacked to 100, then your 75 -res will bring them down to 25, while with the plague bearer they will stay at 75. They would have to have it stacked up to 150 for dweb to have NO effect on it (although there's diminishing effects as they go higher and higher, eventually there's a breakpoint where dweb becomes worse than plague, but its too early for me to figure that out.

[Verashiden]

Trooper... you're... nevermind.

You're forgetting to take into account how SLOW Plague Bearer is. It doesn't matter if you have insane Rabies damage if you can't:

A) Hit them before they kill you (Smiter).

B) Get a hit through their block (Any max block dueler).

And where are you getting these numbers? PvP penalty is 1/6 BEFORE resistances is checked.

Just to show you, let's assume they barely hit 75 poison res:

Grief will reduce their res to 50 so:

85k / 6 = 14.1k
14.1k / 2 =7083 dmg over 14 seconds

Now let's assume facetted DWeb switch/ 20 Monarch under the same conditions:

-75 res

45k / 6 = 7.5k

Since no res we don't have to calculate further.

So CLEARLY DWeb switch is better than Plague Bearer. And that was with me being generous and giving you you're fabricated 85k Rabies.

Quit talking, Trooper, you don't know what you're talking about.

[trooper]

doesn't matter when pvp penalty is applied learn about math.

Anyway I'm nto going to argue with someone who can't understand math.

[Valvolux]

Trooper knows his rabies, heed his wisdom.

[trooper]

If they are only stacked to 100, then your 75 -res will bring them down to 25, while with the plague bearer they will stay at 75. They would have to have it stacked up to 150 for dweb to have NO effect on it (although there's diminishing effects as they go higher and higher, eventually there's a breakpoint where dweb becomes worse than plague, but its too early for me to figure that out.

i meant stacked to 100 over 75, which is easy for many charactes with 1 pair of boots and a rign in stash, not to mention all the +to all rs items

[Kiba]

Wonder if a -100 setup would be viable or effective.

jewelers of whale with facets , dweb etc.