Pally Troubles

[Locke07]

After loosing most of my good stuff due to poofing I am now trying to run my hdin in budget gear, as of now this consist of full Itheras which seems to work out nicely. A plus 2 30/20 Barbed shiled, a plus 2 scepter. My questions is I lack complete fcr with my setup, would a shard be better than that scepter? And is there anything else you guys suggest for my pally he is lvl 78?

[Still-Xey-Lover]

I think its all about preference, if you can get by with fcr rings and an fcr ammy then do it. Some people like the speed of the shard, like myself . If you can afford it i'd suggest shard, and fcr rings if you need to reach the next bp (not sure if its the same as sorc).

[Akukami]

The two mostly used breakpoints for HDins are 50 FCR and 80 FCR. Using a Shard over a Scept and vice-versa depends on your preference and the rest of your gear.

- Akukami

[Locke07]

I am using full Itheras meaning my gloves and ammy are tied up, so I need to get the fcr from my weapon or my rings, using the plus 2 scepter 1 bh I have now I achieve no fcr, I could put on 2 fcr rings meaning 20 fcr but that does nothing? So what should I do?

[Akukami]

1. Use a Shard.

2. Get better gear so you can go back to using Scept-Mage-2 FCR Jewelry.

The latter is obviously harder to do, but it's worth it if you can find a legit trader if there are any left....

- Akukami

[fledgeling]

I got used to high MF gear (which doesnt help much) and Id rather have more damage than FCR

[WarlockCC]

I use full Iratha's, a garb and a +2 pal, +3 bh scepter on my hammerdin. some res boots a soj and a fcr ring with str. It works very well. In sub 4 player games I can kill easily without conc, in games over 4 players, I can still kill the monsters, but it takes a little bit longer. I employ the "cast, step back, cast, step back" method if it gets really crowded around my pal. That also helps against speedy oblivions. Main reason I prefer more damage rather then casting speed, like Fledgeling does aswell, is because I can only cast a limited number of hammers, having gone almost full vit, so base energy, even with the SoJ just isn't a lot of mana. Not even at level 85. So I prefer my hammers have impact rather then that I'd be able to drain my mana bulb faster. I'm not really an authority on hammerdins though, since my only one is just level 85. I just get bored with him while playing. There are very little chalenges when I play with him.

if you want to use shard, you'll only need 6 dex from your ring(s) and/or boots, since Iratha's provides 25 dex and the pal starts with 20 base dex.

Another thing I like about full Iratha's is the speedboost combined with full vigor.

[Rawly]

Another thing I like about full Iratha's is the speedboost combined with full vigor.

Why do you need speed boost when you got charge?

any way, i have both a high level 80fcr 8-9k(shard 2xrings 1xamulet) hammerdin and 30fcr 13k damage hammerdin, both work easily as well.
80fcr is good in hard core to stun more monsters so you take less damage.
high damage is good for very fast clearing of cs bosses.

Too be honest all hammerdin set ups work better than any other class, and you cant really mess it up. Then only thing i would say you have to decide is if you have to put points into dex it would be a waste if you change your mind later on, apart from that doesnt matter.

In your predicament though with no fcr to speak of shard is going to be better than zero fcr, but the difference between 20 and 50 and the difference in damage would not be worth worrying about. (bp are 10,20,30,50,80)

[WarlockCC]

Why do you need speed boost when you got charge?

Remember the aforementioned low mana ? And charge doesn't work in town.

[Rawly]

Remember the aforementioned low mana ? And charge doesn't work in town.

lol you need to run around fast in town :( with like max vigor 40% frw you need more speed talk about impatient.
redemption is your friend with low mana