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To each their own, doesnt matter to me if you dont like it.
Personally, i just think they are extremely well made movies. By that i mean the acting is perfect, the flow of the movie is great (which i have a huge problem with in many movies), they are all 3 hours or more and to me the 3 hours just fly by and i immediately want to see the sequel after its over, and its well directed, no pointless scenes, no pointless dialogue. Plus i think my favorite genre of movies is crime drama, so a crime drama thats just as epic as say Lord of the Rings or Star Wars is amazing to me.
I know a few people that said it was an average movie, that they werent too big on it. To each their own. Tons of people like Star Wars and Lord of the Rings, personally i cant stand Star Wars, and Lord of the Rings was pretty good only one time through, every other time i watched the movies i was bored out of my mind.
Did they change the chronology? Lame.
I haven't read Angels & Demons, just read Da Vinci and saw the movie. Which was a terrible limp shell of a movie where people just go through the motions of the vastly superior source material (which was fun in a schlocky, fairly predictable way), it's like watching the Harry Potter movies but even worse.
Yup. It's confusing to say the least. The actual book is a prequel. But the screenwriters-slash-director decided to make it a sequel.
And what's the reason, you may ask? Because they felt viewers would be more comfortable with this notion because many read the the book only after they read The Da Vinci Code.
*sigh* Everyday I believe more that we are indeed moving towards an Idiocracy.
Star Trek
Overall entertaining enough I suppose. I was bothered by how much they changed history. Starfleet was not new and just getting it's feet wet in space. It was established with a fleet of ships and aliens galore.
Nero was a very boring villain.
Destroying both Romulus and Vulcan? Too over the top. Same with just transporting onto a ship going warp when it was never done before.
Way too much old Spock messing with the time line. The franchise needs to give that up altogether.
It was nice to see some character development though. But I felt that it was too rushed with the exception of Spock. McCoy was very well done.
The next movie will really have to build on things but I think it will be better. Klingon's are sure to show up.
Agreed.
He in no way reminded me of a sith or the phantom menace.
It looked nothing like TNG.
Agreed. While it did not look like TNG, it was a bit too crisp and clean.
Again,. He looked very much like a young Kirk should.
For shame!
Some? I'd say most of it was.
[QUOTE=stillman;7123190]Now for the cheese: there is one of those CGI monsters that is chasing a character, then the monster is eaten by another much bigger monster...just like in The Phantom Menace. This whole chase scene should have been deleted from the movie as it was boring and predictable and no one wants to be reminded of The Phantom Menace./quote]
I agree the scene was not very well done. [Neither was Spock just booting him off the ship.] It didn't remind me of phantom menace but then I've not seen the movie in ages. But as a set up for Kirk meeting old Spock... it seemed a bit lame.
Yes, that was a bit unnecessary. He was never overly "book smart" (but not dumb either). Kirk was more intuitive and a risk taker.
Somewhat agree. Especially Scotty.
Yes, the movies are out of sequence. Although really it doesn't matter that much since the stories are not related.
*SPOILERS*
Technically, they only destroyed Vulcan. Romulus still exists in this alternate reality (for now).
I dunno, the engine room was, well, very much like an engine room.Agreed. While it did not look like TNG, it was a bit too crisp and clean.
Which part of the movie made Kirk into a genius?Yes, that was a bit unnecessary. He was never overly "book smart" (but not dumb either). Kirk was more intuitive and a risk taker.
Scotty was the only one I didn't really get a feel for. Odd casting and script all around, there.Somewhat agree. Especially Scotty.
I agree. I was thinking only of the bridge.
Didn't Pike tell him how freaking smart he was? "Off the charts" or something like that. Or am I confusing myself.
Then, when Kirk was hiding behind the bed, Uhura was telling her green-skinned roommate about the transmission she picked up. Later on the Enterprise Kirk put it together and warned Pike that they were headed into a Romulan trap.
I suppose one could throw in the Kobayashi Maru test too but I didn't like that scene.
^ Pike does indeed say Kirk is 'genius level', hence, Starfleet coud really use someone of Kirk's capabilities. It's in the early part after the bar fight when Pike is trying to get Kirk to be like his father. Plus, the 'off the charts' comment is mentioned.
The movie describes an 'alternate reality' or new timeline occuring thanks to someone going back in time and tinkering with history. So I suppose that means all of the early Enterprise adventures from the original series have been wiped clean and the crew will do all different things this time around. I never understood why movie makers would do such a thing. Why erase something that was perfectly fine? Not to get into the Batman debate (this is just here for an example), but it's like how Batman Begins erases the old Batman with Jack Nicholson, which was a masterpiece. I can understand erasing some of the sequals, but the whole series? I feel like movie makers are overconfident when they do this sort of thing. It's like the STAR TREK movie makers said their ideas are better and more worthy than the classic stuff, so they should just erase it all. The movie was good, but it wasn't so good that it makes it better than the entire old series.
Although I was harsh on the nostalga part, I should mention that there was some great nostalga, especially with Bones.
There was a little interview clip I saw of Shatner talking about the new Enterprise look, and he said something like, 'It doesn't matter that there is a little light down here that was moved up here'. But man, did he see the movie? There's a lot more changed than little things! The whole interior looks too advanced. One thing I did like was at the beginning we see another starship firing these little turret type of guns which gave it a more primitive early-design look, but we only see a fraction of a second of this.
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