I'd also like to know the high end of life with good gear on a mb necroOriginally Posted by Throttle
Why no IM + let them hack themselves apart on bone prison/wall
Well, im a poison necro and I think that u should not say that poison necros are easy. I have summons wiht me when I duel and i can always take those wailing beasts(immune to magic)with me. Bone spear wont pierce summons, it hits the frist of them and then stop(in my case). If the first monster isn't immune to magic, so what. They still have easily +10 000 hp and after bo even more.Novamancers- Easy.
Most have fire golems with them.
Just tele out of novas range when you see it coming and spirit them.
Dont tele behind em though because a nasty nova will hit you right in the fac
What this means? Well, a bone necro CAN'T kill summon or poison/summon necro as long as they have summons and they stay in the middle of the ''bunch''. But i can. Just one wrong tele and u get hitted by Pnova, then hp wents to 1 and u go town and owned:wink3:
revive stacking is BM
and couldnt a bone necro just BM revive stack with psn necros if you play that way? ^^
Youre wrong
what gears that you are suggesting exactly?replace hoto by wiz.?and what else?thank you
My Nec has 2.4k life with lvl14 BO and 30-40 Lifers. Which Is pretty good.
the best method to deal with nova summoner is wait 180 sec in town.So still very easy.
Hi all.
First of all I am aware of that this is a dicussion about max block necros but there is always the quiestion and comparison between the mb and full vita ones so I thought I will add some of my ideas, etc.
Its certeanly much harder to build a good mb nec than a vita one becouse the mb is more gear dependent: it requires the skill/fcr/socket/mods circlet the skill/fcr/mods amu and usually 2x fcr/mods rings. All these items are either magic or rare and are very expensive and hard to get. For this reason /and also for some other ones/ I have chosen to make a full vita necro that playing at the moment. Both the mb and the vita build have their pros and cons-ofc. I will not put down all the pros and cons but will mention that if you go for the mb setup your best shield choice is Stormshield that means you need to get 125fcr from amu+rings+belt+circ+weapon, I believe it is and was obvious to all of the players who know something about D2. And so if you want to have a good mb necro you need to have good circ+amu+rings.
The main thing I want to say is that a mb nec is better vs physical but weaker vs all other becouse its loosing life and skills and sometimes resists. For me a nec is a character that is expected to use his ““friends““ to block for him - if you consider gm duels than only the golem of choice but in my opinion all this discussion about what is bm and what is not is silly for me in the way that why a character should not use any of the skills and options the game, character and items offer?! Ofc I do not mean any hacks that are not legal only options the game itself offers. My target in this case are the necros summons: why should a necro not use one of his skills?!-silly. All other chars use all their skills to help to win a duel. So apart from hacks I do not consider anything bm. And that is why I went for the vita build becouse my minions: golem, skeles and even revives will block for me. I might see the point why could it be bm: becouse you need to go to kill some monsters and gather your army and only after that you duel so yes from that point of view its lame and takes time and mostly becouse you cannot get them only yourself and you need to have an access to corpses and thats the main reason why dudu“s minions differ.
So when I went for the vita build I was planning to use skeles and/or revives for duel but I can still not use them if want a “gm“duel. In this case the vita nec still has good chances vs physical players even though it is much harder than for the mb setup. On the other hand if you do not duel a physical char your chances are higher thx to more life, more +skills so more dmg and in these duels you dont need the mb at all but when you duel physicals you still have the golem/only golem if gm/ and the bone armor.
So it is very simple - the mb nec is better vs physical and the vita better vs all other.
With my vita build I always duel without revives and skeles becouse of people having opinions that it is bm. I can still easily win vs babas, palas, bowas and dudus, actually I find it harder to duel the non-physical ones-strange but donno why.
It was enough of all this theory and ifs.
I simply chose the vita nec for a couple of simple reasons that might only make sense for me:
I love high life and high boo lvl, high +skills and I admit it was much easier to get the items for it than all those rares.
My 96 lvl all vita necro:
125 fcr
86 fhr
19lvl boo
3.8k life
1.2k mana
5.5k dmg
/only!/ 26% dr
stacked resists by + 30
possibility to use Oak Sage with it 4.5k life
My setup is:
Bered Shako
Maras 30
perf Eni mp
Hoto 40
fcr/19str/some nice res ring
Soj
Arach
Eth Treks
perf Spirit shield
6boo cta + spirit on switch
8x pb skiller 45
1x pb skiller 12fhr
perf Torch
20/19/10 anni
2x 20/17 sc
8x 20/5 sc
First I maxed bone skills and will /only/ have revives on lvl 97 so until now I was duelling gm and also will but gonna use the revives when rly need to-vs other bm players.
Someone asked what is a good life and mana for a max block necro-in my opinion a well built one with acces to all the best items should have min 3k life with boo. I am not certain about the mana but cca 800 is ok. Ofc all the numbers will be always different depending on the setup and wealth.
To summarise all:
For me a mb and also a vita nec are equally good-in general and ofc one is better vs this the other vs that. I rly like both and wish I could have both of them at the same time!
Please consider all this as my own personal opinion and I am and aways was very opened to any advice, criticism and other people“s opinions.
Have fun and enjoy the best game-D2!:_)
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