McClellan Gone (we've gotten lazy around here)

[jmervyn]

Oops... I hadn't read your post when I made that thread.

Well, we all know who to blame if he runs off in a snit again :laughing:

I don't know who that is so I can't comment.

Ill took exception to my mention of/linking to Helen Thomas. He's smitten, ya see?

[llad12]

Trust your kind to automatically impugn all your political opponents with "bad Karma". My soul is just fine, thanks for asking - how's yours? You going to be using it soon or something?

Fixed your spelling … we don’t want people to get the wrong impression.

You’re the military man … “trained to kill”. Don’t talk to me about morals … I wasn’t gung-ho for war in Iraq … knowing that thousands upon thousands of innocent men, women, and children would be slaughtered in the process. That position was conveniently reserved for you.

As far as a soul is concerned, I'm the bleeding heat liberal fella. I'm the one who gives a damn about our fellow man.

You're the "Christian" born-to-kill soldier ... need I say more about your hyprocrisy?

Tell me again who imagines the entire U.S. ship of state is bent on world domination on behalf of the ebil oil industry? Oh, yeah, you. We've had this discussion frequently, remember (have to remind you fogeys of stuff, I know) - I'm the one who tends to consider all human activity the result of base desires, while you're the one who constructs elaborate Illuminati-based plots.

Maybe you should learn how read.

Never mind that my quoted sources are the same ones running the US government.

Never mind that we are building permanent military bases in Iraq.

Never mind that we have over 900 military bases in 130 countries encircling the globe.

Never mind that the Cold War is long past and the need for our obscene military spending is completely unnecessary.

Tell you what ...

In fact, I really don’t disagree with you. "Base desires" are the answer. The same desires which are subsequently combined with overwhelming military and economic power and used to control other nation’s governments and their national resources.


It’s called an Empire fella and the only Illuminati lacking is in your brain.

Let's be fair, here; Father Bush cut it first. Clinton just made even deeper cuts in an irresponsible manner, which should come as a surprise to none familiar with the Clintons' deep-seated hatred of the military.

Only irresponsible to you … but then again, what do you care about fiscal responsibility, deficit spending, or inflation anyway?

Hail to the mighty NeoCons!!

You are slipping, old man! My undying hatred of Microsoft, corporate hubris, intellectual property law... any of that ring a bell? It isn't like the only time I post is to spout propaganda; that's your department.

Heh … I find it amusing that while computers have increased 100X in speed (from 386 to a Pentium 3.8 gig) and costs have subsequently decreased significantly over the last 12 years you continually pick on Microsoft as the EVIL Corporation.

As far as corporate hubris is concerned … theft, such as portrayed by Enron, is not a right-left issue, but rather a legal one.

Observers will notice that Ill is the one who decided to attack me on abortion in a thread about the WHPC, not I attacking him.

But Ill, since you're obviously having more frequent senior moments, I've said frequently that I view abortion as a societal evil that will occur whether or not it is opposed. I just don't want my tax dollars feeding the industry in the manner it currently does, for a variety of reasons not the least of which is the nature of many of the recipients. Likewise, stem cell research advocates in some cases are promoting baby/foetus harvesting for fiscal gain, which I cannot approve of. If these people are so humanitarian, why do they so often insist on having their nose in the public trough?

Those were simply examples contrary to your BS statement of being “moderate” on other issues.

I call it like I see it ... and you are anything but a moderate.

[Bortaz]

Oh man, this is great. Welcome back, llad!

[Dondrei]

Fixed your spelling

Hey, do I do your job for you?

[jmervyn]

Fixed your spelling … we don’t want people to get the wrong impression.

Thanks, you bleeding heat liberal.

You’re the military man … “trained to kill”. Don’t talk to me about morals … I wasn’t gung-ho for war in Iraq … knowing that thousands upon thousands of innocent men, women, and children would be slaughtered in the process. That position was conveniently reserved for you.

So again, you'd have preferred that Saddam be kept in power, the sanctions be lifted, and the status quo be preserved. And his ongoing death toll be ignored. Quite humanitarian of you.

As far as a soul is concerned, I'm the bleeding heat liberal fella. I'm the one who gives a damn about our fellow man.

You're the "Christian" born-to-kill soldier ... need I say more about your hyprocrisy?

Ah, so giving a damn about our fellow man means supporting the status quo? Interesting. I think I read about your views somewhere else...

And violence never solves anything, either - right?

Maybe you should learn how read.

Oooh, I'm soo offended. Apparently you have forgotten your own siggie in your dotage.

Never mind that my quoted sources are the same ones running the US government.

Never mind that we are building permanent military bases in Iraq.

I don't much care if you put those words in a blender and claim you've made daquiris - if you're trying to claim that people's positions must be set in cement for them to be credible, please explain how your compadres were talking about Saddam's WMD a little over 6 years ago. Oh yeah, BLCD - but then he wasn't in office...

Never mind that we have over 900 military bases in 130 countries encircling the globe.

All Bush's fault, of course. Nothing to do with stability or commitment to allies. Should we withdraw our foreign spending & development, too? Or is it better that we just throw money to others and ask them nicely not to attack us? That's worked really well so far.

Never mind that the Cold War is long past and the need for our obscene military spending is completely unnecessary.

Yup, we ought to demobilize. Say, I think I've heard this part too - I've even cited it. Not that you'll read anything but indymedia...

Tell you what ...

In fact, I really don’t disagree with you. "Base desires" are the answer. The same desires which are subsequently combined with overwhelming military and economic power and used to control other nation’s governments and their national resources.

It’s called an Empire fella and the only Illuminati lacking is in your brain.

Nothing new here, either. After all, America is the root of all ebil, right?

But your confusion regarding Illuminati and illumination ought to be cleared up by the coming summer blockbuster. Doubtless it will be about your speed, otherwise I'd suggest that you read Foucault's Pendulum to help ease up on the conspiracy theory mindset.

Only irresponsible to you … but then again, what do you care about fiscal responsibility, deficit spending, or inflation anyway?

Hail to the mighty NeoCons!!

I know it may be a bit of a news flash, but it isn't like conservatives are overjoyed with Bush, either. They're just more aware of the alternative you offer than most.

Heh … I find it amusing that while computers have increased 100X in speed (from 386 to a Pentium 3.8 gig) and costs have subsequently decreased significantly over the last 12 years you continually pick on Microsoft as the EVIL Corporation.

Ah, because of course, Microsoft is such a innovative hardware company.

As far as corporate hubris is concerned … theft, such as portrayed by Enron, is not a right-left issue, but rather a legal one.

Interesting - so you're claiming that you noble lefties wouldn't be more or less in favor of 'theft'?

Those were simply examples contrary to your BS statement of being “moderate” on other issues.

I call it like I see it ... and you are anything but a moderate.

Yes, we've already thoroughly discussed what the view through the lens of LSD flashback must be like. I suppose that, since accusation of my dishonesty is insufficient, you'd like to propose yourself as the model?

[jmervyn]

Oh, and just in case any innocent bystanders accidentally gave Ill's "hegemony rap" any credence...

1. Again, the part of the article he thoughtfully left out is that our long-term base plans in the South-West Asia theatre are already established in Kuwait. Guess we must be a hostile occupying army there, too. :rolleyes:

2. What doesn't quite jibe with the EBIL AMERIKKKAN EMPIUR theory is that we have drawn down to the point of anemia, particularly in Europe. And though it may be as punishment to the Germans, we have shuttered most of our bases there and have begun moving our remnants elsewhere.

3. Oh, yeah, and if we're somewhere that a stable government doesn't want us? As far as Ill's theory goes, something like this would never happen.

Sadly, Ill's real desire is for the crippling and humiliation of U.S. power overseas (because we're Ebil, see?) Some of us don't really think that's a smart idea. Particularly since our vaunted Pax Americana hasn't exactly made us bulletproof to date.