shifters complaints...

[stoutewolf]

*sulks in corner* Yes im a proud user of my draculs, but thats only to get even with those ever so terrible smiters:grin:

Btw, wanna do some gf runs tonight?:rolleyes:

ofc, we will get the damn 3 soc/30frw diadems and those 100life/3soc ones

[Voice]

Alright i dont like to post screen shots of my characters because i build odd and original builds, gear. But ink talked me into posting these screen shots of my mauler so i'm gonna post it here.

And before you say you give up gear ... i am not using angelics in any of these screen shots ... nor am i using crappy gear .. in all these screen shots i break over 50 ds, about 50 ows ... not sure about cb.

http://img380.imageshack.us/my.php?i...shot0214yc.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?i...shot0220mz.jpg

Note in this last one my defence should be 24k ... but the shiver armor went off.

http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?i...shot0234ab.jpg

As for druids being underpowered ... meh my wolf wins about 60-70% of my duels (including vs. smiters) and that is enough for me considering we are "underpowered". If your looking for a fury wolf to join pubs and kill 99% of the time your looking at the wrong char ... be content w/ anything over 60%.

As for godly smiter vs. godly fury ... sure smite will prob. win .. however if smiter has a lil less expensive gear a druid can win. I think i do better than most vs. smiters because i hit 7k life w/ an all strength build ... meaning that i do massive damage to smiters ... to the extent that if i get ds and a high end damage hit off ... i can 1 hit kill 85% of them ... although most decent take 2 hits ... i can and i have 1 hit ko'ed GOOD smiters .... but majority if they are fully decked out they will beat me unless i get a good hit off. However, the majority of smiters i go somewhat 50/50 with.

Anyways the point of this was to post the screen shots to say that maulers can be somewhat viable ... i am making progress ... i have went from only getting the top wolves to 1/2 life to getting them to 1/4 life. Eventually i will get them to 0 life. :grin:

[pipi-owner]

haha very impressive minstrelboy.. thats exactly what im talkin about..
thanks for that..

however... without the ebotdz.. n stormshield... u loose MASSIVE amount of str n then i assume u wont be able to wear your armor (sacred dures or fort?)

.. or do u not go 2h vs smiters?!
because u can beat smiters 1h swing that sloW?

stouteman- thanks for listing those points.. very true n important.. but HOW do u achieve that? (:wink3: )
it all sounds very nice.. and im definitly sure i have the items your talking about .. but needa know how to get it like dat...

i've mentioned this but i'l mention it again.. wolf/bear druids have ALWAYS been my favourite build.. THATS why im raising this thread.. as MANY of you will have seen people on bnet that dont understand shifters..or when they make one half way.. they say its crap and tries to tel every1 about it (saw this lvl80 wolf druid and thought he was decent.. tried to talk to him and he just said "wolf sux..hit so slow @#%@% etc" ... it was a sad day..)

sadly im on uswest ladder.. nl is a thing in the past for me.. :sad2:

thanks again for all the input here guys...

plenty more questions and answers to be posted

cheers
PpZ

[Minstrelboy]

I've just simply made the point you cannot design a gear, what you see is my pvm tank setup. I have no reason, that my ar should be lower than 30k with minor changes, if need it much. Plain simply i can change armor, i can change weapon,i can change helm, i can get/keep pvp modes if i want to. Or shall we go for 50k ar, moron, keeping 86fhr and pvp modes? It is possible. Just unnecesarry.

With 30k+ ar, i will get 152fhr will keep 50% ds with triple angelic, 65%cb, 43% ow without cerebus, aldurs combo. Forti-> Light armor Duress, Jalal->Guillaumes. I will lose whoule 2-3k ar, almost nothing.

2h setup is a different issue, bit i assure you, it will keep the high ar:grin:

You have made no valid point, jus proved, you are simply senseless.

[Minstrelboy]

I've just simply made the point you cannot design a gear, what you see is my pvm tank setup. I have no reason, that my ar should be lower than 30k with minor changes, if need it much. Plain simply i can change armor, i can change weapon,i can change helm, i can get/keep pvp modes if i want to. Or shall we go for 50k ar, moron, keeping 86fhr and pvp modes? It is possible. Just unnecesarry.

With 30k+ ar, i will get 152fhr will keep 50% ds with triple angelic, 65%cb, 43% ow without cerebus, aldurs combo. Forti-> Light armor Duress, Jalal->Guillaumes. I will lose whoule 2-3k ar, almost nothing. Keeping pvp modes and keeping high ar/high fhr together is not challenging at all, just needs some gut.

2h setup is a different issue, bit i assure you, it will keep the high ar:grin: I give a hint, it is shaeled shaftstop based.

You have made no valid point, jus proved, you are simply senseless. My worst setup should beat the tar out from your best, i bet

[dkay]

give wereforms teleport and they will be the kings of pvp easily. ^^

[pipi-owner]

thanks voice.. but those are screenies of just the stats.. the problem is the gears.. not what u achieve

cheers
PpZ

[Valvolux]

People can be protective of their equipment set up, especially when talking about pvp. Asking specific question about certain items is fine, but asking exact list of items/charms etc just looks like you're asking to be spoon fed. If people want to share their tactics with you be grateful, if not don’t try and force them into doing so.

[Rangniheldr]

Alright i dont like to post screen shots of my characters because i build odd and original builds, gear. But ink talked me into posting these screen shots of my mauler so i'm gonna post it here.

And before you say you give up gear ... i am not using angelics in any of these screen shots ... nor am i using crappy gear .. in all these screen shots i break over 50 ds, about 50 ows ... not sure about cb.

http://img380.imageshack.us/my.php?i...shot0214yc.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?i...shot0220mz.jpg

Note in this last one my defence should be 24k ... but the shiver armor went off.

http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?i...shot0234ab.jpg

As for druids being underpowered ... meh my wolf wins about 60-70% of my duels (including vs. smiters) and that is enough for me considering we are "underpowered". If your looking for a fury wolf to join pubs and kill 99% of the time your looking at the wrong char ... be content w/ anything over 60%.

As for godly smiter vs. godly fury ... sure smite will prob. win .. however if smiter has a lil less expensive gear a druid can win. I think i do better than most vs. smiters because i hit 7k life w/ an all strength build ... meaning that i do massive damage to smiters ... to the extent that if i get ds and a high end damage hit off ... i can 1 hit kill 85% of them ... although most decent take 2 hits ... i can and i have 1 hit ko'ed GOOD smiters .... but majority if they are fully decked out they will beat me unless i get a good hit off. However, the majority of smiters i go somewhat 50/50 with.

Anyways the point of this was to post the screen shots to say that maulers can be somewhat viable ... i am making progress ... i have went from only getting the top wolves to 1/2 life to getting them to 1/4 life. Eventually i will get them to 0 life. :grin:

Not sure if ive asked this before Voice, but do you play on europe nl?

[stoutewolf]

People can be protective of their equipment set up, especially when talking about pvp. Asking specific question about certain items is fine, but asking exact list of items/charms etc just looks like you're asking to be spoon fed. If people want to share their tactics with you be grateful, if not don’t try and force them into doing so.

i will post screenies of my stats but not from my equip sorry. Not much peops now my setup, only Rangniheldr+some other ones. Look at my guide for a nice set-up though