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    Even 2k health for a barb is WAYYYYYY too low for any serious dueler. I am also not saying non shield barb is worthless either, i myself uses dual wield on my bvc which have 8k+ health with bo prebuff and 7.4k health without. Again as i always say try some real pvp player and you will see how your barb truely performs.




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    Quote Originally Posted by shaftstop
    I never said BVB either I just said PVP.
    Its clear but you still not understand. Im not going to argue with you just for the sake of agruing.
    you are the one that clearly dont undersatnd AT ALL we are not agruing, just want to make it clear to you that pvp is more than 'click you die' type of games which don't involve any skills like you said before.
    And answer my question also please, why does player 'A' can clear the whole pk room (different chars) using a necro/ bvc/ windy/ libby where as player 'B' got owned badly by one of the player in that pk room using a same char as player 'A' (same or even better stats/gear compare to player 'A')? Please don't give me those because it depends on lucky hit type of answer.




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    yeah i know my health is too low, I said that earlier.

    I still manage quite good in pvp, however

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    Grief + Stormlash for Uber Dmg + Static PVM Goodness ^^ (Freny Barbs)




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    can't make grief in maces unless you want to blow 40 pts on dual mastery




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    Quote Originally Posted by meatydik
    yeah i know my health is too low, I said that earlier.

    I still manage quite good in pvp, however

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    ladder dont have much (if any) great duelers. after reset i could duel you with my ghetto druid and some other chars and you'll see 2k life is way to low to be any good against a real dueler




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    Quote Originally Posted by meatydik
    "that barb you duel just plain sucks when he lost to your no block 2handed barb" -arbing

    That's pretty much what u implied.

    And also, I had 2k health, not the other guy, now I'm not saying that the ss/weapon combo is worthless, as it was pretty much even in wins/losses with him. However, that wasn't the only barb I dueled either. I have beaten many other barbs and other classes as I said in one of my other posts.


    The other barbs I usually dueled were people like you, thinking damn! 2 handers suck, I'm gonna duel this guy!

    Then guess what, I won. I know they aren't you, but that's an example of some of the barbs I dueled.

    Also, you attack about 2 to 3 times when you WW, the chance of him blocking all 3 is very slim, my friend was a pally with max chance to block and 30k defense, and it never took more than 2 WW runs to hit him.

    Although ghost spears have greater range, the tm packs a much greater hit, which is my preference.

    There's a simple strategy for WW's, if against another WW barb, just do short WW runs, and run around A LOT so that he can't whirlwind to you as your just finishing, then WW him as he's finishing. Then repeat basically. Leap is pretty good too as it stuns/knockbacks you and if you're not on guard, he can easily WW you as you're recovering from that.
    tmauls are trash. if your 2k life garbage barb manages to kill anything it just means that they suck beyond belief. period.




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    harsh but so true...LOL




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    wtf does my life have to do with my damage output. With that much life, it just means that I was good enough to not get hit with their WW. I would still do the same damage with 9k health or 2k health.




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    Quote Originally Posted by meatydik
    wtf does my life have to do with my damage output. With that much life, it just means that I was good enough to not get hit with their WW. I would still do the same damage with 9k health or 2k health.

    wot u fail to understand is 2k h is damn low,

    ok u may have the dmg but if another barb walking arround with 4-5k hp can tank ur attack he will simply out tank u due to hp + block.

    this why if a shield barb loses to u they must suck becasue ur using a 2 hander + no block, lower defence and crap hp while a standard bvb for example has max block + higher defence and 2x + the hp of yours meaning it would take a mere few WWs to kill u while on the other hand u have to get past the block and relly heavilly on lucky dmg rolls and still would need quite a few hits.

    And to make thigs worst ur weapon does not even get the maximum hit checks to be as usefull due to being too slow.




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