How catch125fcr 86fhr max block Nec

[Aeonios]

Ew, fcr rings on a nec. Bye bye mana. Bye bye +1 skill. I suppose it is possible, but it's expensive and difficult to arrange. Plus, you lose a lot of life in the process. I also don't know about 2.5k life. Dex for max block with a nec is like 200+, so you lose a lot of HP there, then when you sacrifice a soj and ammy you lose several levels of BO. 6 FHR charms = 5 lifers maximum. Good luck with that when you'll need a ton of str to use that SS. If you got a godly ammy/circ you might do it, but I don't think anyone is that rich. So you have very little room for the lifers you're talking. It could be possible, maybe, but I seriously doubt it.

[De4dEyE]

Bye bye mana and life? Life and Mana on the ring are easy to get..

[SicHalo]

i want to know who's better caster slayer ww barb or ww sin ?

i use both and they are both increadibly strong caster killers, but however i think it coems down to which is the easiest to use as ww sin/trap require alot of hotkeys but is slightly better but then a BvC barb only needs leap+ tele WW to get the prey

[-Ferro-]

For any duel: fcr>>>damage

Vs melee and amas and the like: Blocking>>>life

[Gotcha]

Yep, there is a huge difference between 75% FCR and 125% FCR. I would rather loose a little in damage and gain in speed and resists then to worry about pure damage and the numbers. I never think about pure vita builds anymore now that grief is out. Block is just hands down the way to go unless all you duel is casters period IMO.

Also FCR and life/mana are not as difficult as you may think on ladder if you spend enough time in the trading channel looking for them. It is much more difficult to get a 10%/15+ str or dex/60+ Mana ring which would be ideal to keep str or dex closer to base so you can get more into vita in the end. With whizzy you only need only one FCR ring if you use a 10% FCR amulet and the only real issue is that with whizzy you loose 1 or 2 to overall P&B skills depending on if you use a +3 ammy or not & soj. Also with a good 10%/mana ring and soj you can get more mana then with 2 soj's, not to mention you may get a few other stats like life, stats and resists to help.

The hardest things to get on ladder are the circlet (a good one) and the skill charms which are like crazy in price "crazy expensive":sad2: .

[Aeonios]

Blocking and fcr doesn't help you too much vs a desync hammers (the only class I've had any real trouble with). FCR helps more than anything for any duel. You won't dodge a WW barb or hammerdin or lightning bolt if you don't have 125%, and with good FHR you can escape a lot more locks. Blocking helps a lot vs barbs, but unless you have 2.5k+ hp you won't escape a zon, and block speed is probably more important for that as well (pallies don't have that problem and usually kill zons every time, but necs have miserably slow block). Pallies basically have max block by default, but a nec has to sacrifice a lot to get it. Bone shield might offset that some, but imo you can still beat them without it. Zons maybe less so, but the purpose of 'skill' is so that you never have to use block and FHR.

[DarkMousy]

Too bad there is nobody human who's skillfull enough to dodge everything, so yeah, block is necessary. Block is a crutch for you, it allows you to cover for the inevitable mistake you're gonna make sooner or later. And without block on a bone nec, you're not beating a good wwsin in a series unless he's lagging like crazy. Zons are easy for a necro, decrep + prison + bone armour + golem, teleport on them and spearlock does the trick. You don't even need decrep and prison most of the time, just teleporting on them with bone armour and golem usually does the trick. The only way a bowazon beats a good nec is if they have a 989373 screen advantage and are spamming as you're leaving town. GA isn't hard to dodge, simply tele off the minimap, make a semicircle, and tele in quickly, namelock tele + spear, it's done. If they predict that, you have golem + bonearmour + block, you'll more than likely escape. Zons suck against bone necs, it's just a given class advantage. With enigma, the zon shouldn't even have time to fire off more than a few arrows before you're on her spamming to death. Besides, on EastNL there's an easy way to get maxblock with 125 fcr and 86 fhr:

2/20/2 nec circlet socketed with jahs or shaels
enigma
Storm circlet ammy (2 nec/20 fcr/str/mana/res) or a legit 2/20 crafted.
Wizzy with 15 res/7fhr jewel
Eld SS or 15res/7fhr jewel, or res/dex if you want
2x sojs
arach
Trang gloves
viper tramples (fhr/res/dex boots, or closest legits you can find)
mix of FHR and vita gcs.

If you wanted more dmg, wizzy could be replaced by hoto and an soj by an fcr ring.

Desynch hammerdins are dealt with via bone prison, it helps you locate where they are even if you can't see them.

[moonlike]

i tell one thing bone necros overrated imo not so good as everybody tells they suck vs sorcs and windies and low life sux too.

[Aeonios]

Teeth > windies if you have good skills. The other problem with a pure FCR+FHR+Block necro besides having about no life is that they also do low damage (if you use non-sojs, no spirit, etc) so your teeth may do 1k or less damage so they can't stunlock casters. I'm wondering if teeth would be as effective against bowazons as spear. Yeah, it'd take longer to kill them, but it'd put them in dodge lock as easily. Spirit ought to do about the same thing as well, but you'd need to click right on them to hit quickly.

[moonlike]

Teeth > windies if you have good skills. The other problem with a pure FCR+FHR+Block necro besides having about no life is that they also do low damage (if you use non-sojs, no spirit, etc) so your teeth may do 1k or less damage so they can't stunlock casters. I'm wondering if teeth would be as effective against bowazons as spear. Yeah, it'd take longer to kill them, but it'd put them in dodge lock as easily. Spirit ought to do about the same thing as well, but you'd need to click right on them to hit quickly.

imo not now windies can easily have 163fcr( with spirit) and insane fhr
8k no block windies with 10frame tele is not close to be killed fast by bone necro, no way.
U have only 1 frame faster tele trust me good windy will catch u.