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    Personaly, I can't imagine any melee charecter not using grief. The damage is just so high it makes up for everything else.




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    [QUOTE=inkanddagger]botd has speed advantage with range over the viable phase grief that fury can use, which is equal speed but less range.
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    No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

    this is 100% fact

    BOTD=PvM

    Grief= PvP

    Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

    Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

    crap Grief>Perf BOTD




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    Quote Originally Posted by inkanddagger
    botd has speed advantage with range over the viable phase grief that fury can use, which is equal speed but less range.
    No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

    this is 100% fact

    BOTD=PvM

    Grief= PvP

    Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

    Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

    crap Grief>Perf BOTD




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    Quote Originally Posted by inkanddagger
    botd has speed advantage with range over the viable phase grief that fury can use, which is equal speed but less range.
    No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

    this is 100% fact

    BOTD=PvM

    Grief= PvP

    Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

    Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

    crap Grief>Perf BOTD




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    Quote Originally Posted by inkanddagger
    botd has speed advantage with range over the viable phase grief that fury can use, which is equal speed but less range.
    No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

    this is 100% fact

    BOTD=PvM

    Grief= PvP

    Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

    Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

    crap Grief>Perf BOTD




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    Quote Originally Posted by inkanddagger
    botd has speed advantage with range over the viable phase grief that fury can use, which is equal speed but less range.
    No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

    this is 100% fact

    BOTD=PvM

    Grief= PvP

    Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

    Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

    crap Grief>Perf BOTD




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    Quote Originally Posted by inkanddagger
    botd has speed advantage with range over the viable phase grief that fury can use, which is equal speed but less range.
    No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

    this is 100% fact

    BOTD=PvM

    Grief= PvP

    Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

    Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

    crap Grief>Perf BOTD




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    Quote Originally Posted by inkanddagger
    botd has speed advantage with range over the viable phase grief that fury can use, which is equal speed but less range.
    No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

    this is 100% fact

    BOTD=PvM

    Grief= PvP

    Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

    Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

    crap Grief>Perf BOTD




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    Quote Originally Posted by inkanddagger
    botd has speed advantage with range over the viable phase grief that fury can use, which is equal speed but less range.
    No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

    this is 100% fact

    BOTD=PvM

    Grief= PvP

    Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

    Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

    crap Grief>Perf BOTD




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    Quote Originally Posted by inkanddagger
    botd has speed advantage with range over the viable phase grief that fury can use, which is equal speed but less range.
    No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

    this is 100% fact

    BOTD=PvM

    Grief= PvP

    Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

    Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

    crap Grief>Perf BOTD




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