Grief or BotD For WW Fury Druid

[SicHalo]

botd has speed advantage with range over the viable phase grief that fury can use, which is equal speed but less range.

No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

this is 100% fact

BOTD=PvM

Grief= PvP

Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

crap Grief>Perf BOTD

[SicHalo]

botd has speed advantage with range over the viable phase grief that fury can use, which is equal speed but less range.

No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

this is 100% fact

BOTD=PvM

Grief= PvP

Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

crap Grief>Perf BOTD

[SicHalo]

botd has speed advantage with range over the viable phase grief that fury can use, which is equal speed but less range.

No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

this is 100% fact

BOTD=PvM

Grief= PvP

Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

crap Grief>Perf BOTD

[SicHalo]

botd has speed advantage with range over the viable phase grief that fury can use, which is equal speed but less range.

No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

this is 100% fact

BOTD=PvM

Grief= PvP

Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

crap Grief>Perf BOTD

[SicHalo]

botd has speed advantage with range over the viable phase grief that fury can use, which is equal speed but less range.

No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

this is 100% fact

BOTD=PvM

Grief= PvP

Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

crap Grief>Perf BOTD

[SicHalo]

botd has speed advantage with range over the viable phase grief that fury can use, which is equal speed but less range.

No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

this is 100% fact

BOTD=PvM

Grief= PvP

Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

crap Grief>Perf BOTD

[SicHalo]

botd has speed advantage with range over the viable phase grief that fury can use, which is equal speed but less range.

No cuz phaseblade base speed is faster than a BA + Grief can hit speeds of 40ias the only advantage BA has is the range.

this is 100% fact

BOTD=PvM

Grief= PvP

Simple as that cuz leech is useless in PvP as it is nerfed so the only use full think left on botd is the 30+ stats, but that does not get affect by BO or i dont think it get affected by Lycan.

Plus those calculations bellow have not even include things like deadly strike or venom. So this is why;

crap Grief>Perf BOTD

[SicHalo]

botd has speed advantage with range over the viable phase grief that fury can use, which is equal speed but less range.

No the base speed on a Phase blade is faster than a Bezerker axe also Grief can have as high as 40%ias.
So the only dissadvantage is the range.

Botd is good for Pvm but PvP it no good, firstly in pvp leech is nerfed so the only thing left botd has is the stats its gives.

Botd=PvM
Grief-PvP

and in terms of dmg

crap grief>Perf Botd

I mean in the calculations above things like deadly strike and the venom Grief gives was not included.

[inkanddagger]

Grief pahse and botdz are the same speed.

greifz can only hit 6 frame fury.


anyways - i beat greif using druids pretty equally while using botd - because shift/fury almost always gets the first hit.

[xpumafangx]

SicHalo You totaly forgot that ebotd zerk has a range 3 vers greif phase blades range 2. Range does make a big diffence when dueling as a werewolf and a ww barb... That is also why
ww barbs > smite
werewolfs > smite

But also know that it is really easy to mess up on shift fury. So really greif phase blade is = to ebotd zerk.

Last thing you should know here is to never argue with inkanddagger. All he does is play werewolfs and I bet he has been doing it longer then you.