Up'd items????

[BoKnowsHammers]

How the heck do you upgrade items. My buddy and I found a couple of guides that say a Tal/Shael plus Pdiamond makes an exceptional item... how do you upgrade the good items... like HOZ, Shako, etc. Let me know or give me a link...PLEASE!!! We play USEAST Non-Ladder!

[gorash]

here u go

1 Ral Rune + 1 Sol Rune + 1 Perfect Emerald + Normal Unique Weapon = Exceptional Version of Weapon
This formula changes the base item type from the normal to exceptional version. For example an Axe is turned into a Cleaver. This does NOT convert the item to the Exceptional Unique version of the Unique Item. Unique item bonuses remain the same; only the item it's based on is upgraded. This can be used to upgrade Ethereal Items also. They will continue to be Ethereal after they are upgraded. Also if the item is socketed, then jewels or runes and their mods will also remain.

1 Tal Rune + 1 Shael Rune + 1 Perfect Diamond + Normal Unique Armor = Exceptional Version of Armor
This formula changes the base item type from the normal to exceptional version. For example Quilted Armor is turned into Ghost Armor. This does NOT convert the item to the Exceptional Unique version of the Unique Item. So you cannot for example use this formula to transform Greyform into The Spirit Shroud. Unique item bonuses remain the same; only the item it's based on is upgraded. This can be used to upgrade Ethereal Items also. They will continue to be Ethereal after they are upgraded. Also if the item is socketed, then jewels or runes and their mods will also remain. Armor refers to any sort of armor, including helms, boots, belts, gloves and shields, not just body armor.

1 Lum Rune + 1 Pul Rune + 1 Perfect Emerald + Exceptional Unique Weapon = Elite Version of Weapon (Ladder Only)
This formula changes the base item type from the exceptional to elite version. For example a Cleaver is turned into a Small Crescent. This does NOT convert the item to the Elite Unique version of the Exceptional Unique Item. Unique item bonuses remain the same; only the item it's based on is upgraded. This can be used to upgrade Ethereal Items also. They will continue to be Ethereal after they are upgraded. You cannot do this formula unless you are using a Ladder Character. Also if the item is socketed, then jewels or runes and their mods will also remain.

1 Ko Rune + 1 Lem Rune + 1 Perfect Diamond + Exceptional Unique Armor = Elite Version of Armor (Ladder Only)
This formula changes the base item type from the exceptional to elite version. For example Ghost Armor is turned into a Dusk Shroud. This does NOT convert the item to the Elite Unique version of the Unique Item. Unique item bonuses remain the same; only the item it's based on is upgraded. This can be used to upgrade Ethereal Items also. They will continue to be Ethereal after they are upgraded. You cannot do this formula unless you are using a Ladder Character. Also if the item is socketed, then jewels or runes and their mods will also remain. Armor refers to any sort of armor, including helms, boots, belts, gloves and shields, not just body armor.

1 Ort Rune + 1 Amn Rune + 1 Perfect Sapphire + Normal (Basic) Rare Weapon = Exceptional Rare Weapon
The item type is upgraded.

1 Ral Rune + 1 Thul Rune + 1 Perfect Amethyst + Normal (Basic) Rare Armor = Exceptional Rare Armor
The item type is upgraded.

1 Fal Rune + 1 Um Rune + 1 Perfect Sapphire + Exceptional Rare Weapon = Elite Rare Weapon
The item type is upgraded.

1 Ko Rune + 1 Pul Rune + 1 Perfect Amethyst + Exceptional Rare Armor = Elite Rare Armor
The item type is upgraded.

to be short, hoz is exceptional base and therefore can be up'd once.
shako is elite base already so therefore can't be up'd

[BoKnowsHammers]

here u go



to be short, hoz is exceptional base and therefore can be up'd once.
shako is elite base already so therefore can't be up'd

is there a big list of what is exceptional based/elite based????

[gorash]

is there a big list of what is exceptional based/elite based????

yea heres a link to them.

http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/

links on the top will tell u which is basic/excep/elite.
i will provide specific links if u can't find them.

[BoKnowsHammers]

here u go



to be short, hoz is exceptional base and therefore can be up'd once.
shako is elite base already so therefore can't be up'd

if you decide to upgrade an item and it already has a socketed rune in it... does that change or remove anything. in other words i have a 167% HOZ with an UM in it... when I upgrade it does the UM stay?

also...what normally happens. 167% HOZ, um'd upgrades to a what?

[Leohappy]

when I upgrade it does the UM stay?

Yes.

also...what normally happens. 167% HOZ, um'd upgrades to a what?

Base item is upgraded, in case of zaka Gilded shield is upgraded to Zakarum shield. Zakarum has higher requirements, but also has more defense and smite dmg. Zaka is only worht upgrading for smiters&zealots, hammerdins are better off with nonupgraded one.

[gorash]

if you decide to upgrade an item and it already has a socketed rune in it... does that change or remove anything. in other words i have a 167% HOZ with an UM in it... when I upgrade it does the UM stay?

also...what normally happens. 167% HOZ, um'd upgrades to a what?

runes/jewels will stay in when upgrading an item.

when upgrading a hoz, the base shield will change (guilded to zakarum). the def will be rerolled and u maynot see much of a change in def.
zakarum shields have more smite dmg as well as more str req then guilded as well as def. i might of missed something here though.

edit: ugh leohappy beat me to it.

[BoKnowsHammers]

runes/jewels will stay in when upgrading an item.

when upgrading a hoz, the base shield will change (guilded to zakarum). the def will be rerolled and u maynot see much of a change in def.
zakarum shields have more smite dmg as well as more str req then guilded as well as def. i might of missed something here though.

edit: ugh leohappy beat me to it.

has someone made a list of stuff that is probably a good idea to Upgrade. As one person just wrote, upgrading a hammerdins HOZ isn't worth it. Whats good? whats bad?

[Evrae Altana]

There's a lot of stuff; too many to list. In general, don't upgrade caster stuff, since defense means squat for casters. You might also want to upgrade some exceptional uniques/rares up to elite status, especially if they're ethereal.

[anonymite]

has someone made a list of stuff that is probably a good idea to Upgrade. As one person just wrote, upgrading a hammerdins HOZ isn't worth it. Whats good? whats bad?

Highly depends. The Light Armors tend to be worth upgrading since they get massive bonuses to Def, with manageable Str requirements. High Quality exceptional weapons tend to be worth upgrading. I don't know of a definitive list.

Also, I remember reading some items are singled out and can't be upgraded for fear of excess leetness, though I forgot which ones.

Just my opinion...

Worth Upgrading
Ribcracker
Buriza
Titan's
Vipermagi
Lenymo
Nightsmoke
Goldwrap
Shaftstop (for Mercs)
Duriel's (ditto)

Not Worth Upgrading
VampGaze (Famous example)
Guardian Angel (Str Req becomes 196)
HoZ (for Hammerdins)

Just watch out for Elite gear with sky high str requirements.