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    It's actually 56% (well, 60%) for the fastest Zeal. Yes, that setup would work very well, it might even free up your belt slot if you want and you could switch in that Trang belt you mentioned. However the character may be a little less efficient that way, I'm not sure. Personally I find that if you're going with the ED/30IAS CoA, you might as well wear a Leviathan since you're not in dire need of the 30% from a Shaft.

    But it seems my mentioning of the setups have deviated the thread a bit away from the original guide :smiley:




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    Well It is still a zealot guide,this way people can see that they can even pvp with this build (not mine,fanatic zealots in general).

    Anyway the case with your setup is obviously the weapon If you ask me. Very nice damage but the lack of ias limits you very much. Ber ber coa and 15/40 verdungos that usually take care of the damage reduction part is not an option here if you want to keep angelics on. The offensive skiller way on the other hand means you 'll have to sacrifice ar/life charms as you already know. But I bet you want to use that beauty for weapon, so to keep the discussion going,I can think of this:

    20ias gloves (something like magnus yes)
    30/ed Coa 15% dr
    25%dr/cham levi
    ber Hoz/ber Alma negra, depends whether you want damage/ar or resists.
    Nosferatu belt. Ok it has slow,some leagues rule it out but it allows you to hit max speed once more,have cbf and keep your damage reduction at 48%.

    In the same fashion,you can use: 30/ed coa + stormshield for max damage reduction, 20 ias gloves+nosferatu for max speed and something like Chamed eth Steel Carapace for armor. Or cham the stormshield and use a glitched prudence with high defense ,or eth zod valor, or fortitude etc. You'll make up for the loss of defense from non eth shield by getting massive defense from armor.

    What do you think?




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    Hi, my last question before I make this, which would be better grief pb or death pb/ba? Also what should I make CoH in? I have wrym hide, but I can afford the best, thanks kingdry.




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    My favorite weapon for tristram (and suggestion) is Grief phase blade. When crushing blow stops to be effective it really shines. Well there isn't an absolute best for a base coh armor,but dusk shrouds and archon plates have usually the best resale value. Any coh will work,I m using an archon plate in my non ladder tristrunning zealot, for the higher defense.




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    but should fleshrender be viable, seeing it has CB,DS,OW? upgrade it and it might work, or is it to slow?

    also, you could get a total gear for about ist+pul, as what I used to use, and I never had any problems:

    Duress
    Heavens light 2sock
    Guill "um"
    dracs
    highlords
    spirit shield (works very well in an elite shield) go for base resists.
    gore
    T-gods
    raven and a resist ring.


    I only died cuz of lag, and I find it very cheap. you could switch some gear for cheaper alternatives, but I wouldn't want to sacrifice killing speed for that.


    EDIT: OMG 1000posts, all hail CARTMAN!:grin:




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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdryland
    Well It is still a zealot guide,this way people can see that they can even pvp with this build (not mine,fanatic zealots in general).

    Anyway the case with your setup is obviously the weapon If you ask me. Very nice damage but the lack of ias limits you very much. Ber ber coa and 15/40 verdungos that usually take care of the damage reduction part is not an option here if you want to keep angelics on. The offensive skiller way on the other hand means you 'll have to sacrifice ar/life charms as you already know. But I bet you want to use that beauty for weapon, so to keep the discussion going,I can think of this:

    20ias gloves (something like magnus yes)
    30/ed Coa 15% dr
    25%dr/cham levi
    ber Hoz/ber Alma negra, depends whether you want damage/ar or resists.
    Nosferatu belt. Ok it has slow,some leagues rule it out but it allows you to hit max speed once more,have cbf and keep your damage reduction at 48%.

    In the same fashion,you can use: 30/ed coa + stormshield for max damage reduction, 20 ias gloves+nosferatu for max speed and something like Chamed eth Steel Carapace for armor. Or cham the stormshield and use a glitched prudence with high defense ,or eth zod valor, or fortitude etc. You'll make up for the loss of defense from non eth shield by getting massive defense from armor.

    What do you think?
    I'm not much of a fan of Stormshield on Paladins, I've always felt that HoZ and even Alma are far superior. (Although HoZ's Stat bonuses, Resists, and Skills, I find, are more important than 20-55%AR and 40-75%ED.) The first setup you mentioned here would be my personal favourite choice of the few we've listed here, the only problem would be the ridiculous cost of the CoA and Leviathan. An Upped Shaft would help take care of that, with 12% or higher on the CoA, you'd reach 50% total, and wouldn't have to worry about getting two perfect items.

    So my personal favourite of all the setups so far:

    Eth Death BA
    ED/30IAS CoA
    Cham Leviathan / Cham Shaftstop
    Ber (Up) HoZ
    Magnus / Rare gloves with 20IAS
    Nosferatu's
    Gores
    Angelics
    AR/Life or Max/AR/Life charms.

    As you said, the biggest problem here is the weapon itself lacking IAS. But it's a weapon I had that kind of sat on a mule for months. The mods on it are absolutely great - combined DS and CB make it a perfect suggestion for this build, and I'd seriously like to thank you for putting it in. I was happy to see it suggested in a guide alongside Grief.

    Also, as a major point that I seem to have forgotten to mention in my previous posts, any setup with 55% or more IAS with a BA will hit the 6-frame Smite breakpoint as well.




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    Certainly,an upgraded shaft may even be a better option. I'm not the biggest fan of levi myself ,shaft has a healthy dose of hitpoints as well. As for Stormshield,it's the cheapest way to be effective in zeal duels in europe without burning one ber after the other (hrs cost on european server). Sad,when there are so nice paladin shields available.

    As for Death, in a game world without dupes,it would probably be the godliest weapon. 3 lucky hellforge runs would be enough...




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    I just got one question, for this oustanding build. Of all the setup's for this build, I just want to know if it's also a viable build to run the DC (referring to him Diablo Clone, because the Uber is now in Tristram, for the ill informed) for Anni run's. I realize that the build in this guide HERE is older (pre 1.11) but still works according to this thread (in later pages). They just never mentioned anywhere in it (that I could see) if you could solo the Uber's with it. I actually prefer your build more (because of Smite's ITD and Uninterruptble attack). I just think it would work better for the DC too. Cause I'm gonna build a char that can do both Torch and Anni runs.

    Has anyone attempted to do Anni runs with one of these 1 Smite/Zealot builds? Only makes sense, correct?




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    DC's a lot easier than trist.




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    Yes ,I've scored a kill this ladder season. It will take you 10 seconds the most. DC is really really easy.

    Edit: Correction to the guide,Death only in phase blade needs an effective 15% ias to hit max zeal/smite speed.




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