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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noite Escura
    Even if this thing works, you'll still need a backup to kill bosses, because the duration is very short.
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    The duration, when you have to wait for it, is actually annoyingly long. Though, when you need one of them to be your friend and tank damage it seems waaay too short.
    This does prove Einstein's theory that time is not just relative, but also subjective.

    When it comes to conversion though, it's all ways 16 seconds.

    As our good friend the skillcalc will tell confirm :
    http://diablo2.ingame.de/spiel/skill...ex.php?lang=en

    Yes, you need something to kill the bosses, turning his minions on him is not enough. So have yourself a barbed shield handy and start smiting when he is all alone. It takes a while, but they are stunned anyway, so take your time and be sure to have some mana potions with you to compensate for the 2 mana per smite.

    Would be nice if you had a Gnasher with you for the occasion. That helps clear the bosses a lot faster.




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    Quote Originally Posted by WarlockCC
    Some facts from experience :
    You do not have to hit them, my healer has close to no AR, so there would be no way I could convert anything then. Since it is based on chance, I usually just flip on fana, because more hits equals more chances to convert.

    I knew it! Thanks for verifying.




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    http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/ski...tml#conversion

    Read the last line. Its no bug, therefore there was no bug to be patched.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoola McCoola
    http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/ski...tml#conversion

    Read the last line. Its no bug, therefore there was no bug to be patched.
    That would be where I read that then.

    Quote Originally Posted by WarlockCC
    -= end of facts, now some more mindless dribble =-
    It is also said somewhere(yes vague I know, but I just do not remember where I read it) that a monster/demon, when it reverts back, can be slain with one hit from you or your minions. I did test this with a merc, it also works. So perhaps Bliz didn't "fix" this because it is not a bug, but simply a last resort and time consuming way to be able to kill with specialist Paladins.
    Glad you found that, so at least I know I am not imagining things.

    I think I read trough that when I was making my FoH, cause he needed some supporting skill to fend off the Hordes so he doesn't get swarmed.
    In all, this would be a difficult skill to base a character on, but if anybody can do it, it's Fred Cleglaws. I've allways seen it as a supporting skill and something to save my hide from getting swarmed and mangled.

    Kindly let us know how you fare with that project then, Fred.




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    One of my friends did this with a paladin that also used Thorns.
    This was before the days of Bramble, I think, so you could probably use Bramble + Edge and Holyshock now.

    I've been told that it doesn't work on the Minions of Destruction.




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    Quote Originally Posted by nickedoff
    One of my friends did this with a paladin that also used Thorns.
    This was before the days of Bramble, I think, so you could probably use Bramble + Edge and Holyshock now.

    I've been told that it doesn't work on the Minions of Destruction.
    minions of destruction? edge? bramble? i think your in the wrong forum buddy







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    Quote Originally Posted by nickedoff
    One of my friends did this with a paladin that also used Thorns.
    This was before the days of Bramble, I think, so you could probably use Bramble + Edge and Holyshock now.

    I've been told that it doesn't work on the Minions of Destruction.

    Well, we won't have to worry about that will we? This is classic, no runewords, no Minions of Destruction, no act5. Don't you guys look to see what forum you are in?




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    Well, I have seen a vamp gaze in classic before. This was back in 1.09, but still, you never know.




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    Wow. I din' even realize I was still on the classic forum -_-

    Sorry.

    Still provided experience and suggested thorns, though.




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    Quote Originally Posted by nickedoff
    Wow. I din' even realize I was still on the classic forum -_-

    Sorry.

    Still provided experience and suggested thorns, though.
    Yes, just like a page back another person mentioned it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rawly
    Hmm has the skill changed, as i remember when i used to have a conversion/thorns pala a long time ago (they were all the rage at one point and it wasnt until i followed another pala through nightmare act 4 that i discovered the power of the hammerdin, everytime i got to where he was there was a pile of bodies, and there was me waiting 5 mins for thorns to kill one or two monsters.) that the % chance of conversion was just a flat % of every time you attacked and you didnt have to have any ar at all.
    Thing is, I never used conversion with thorns, because I know aura's linger. I found that out the hard way, walking trough the river with a thorns/conversion pala in my party while I was playing a WW lancer.
    Quite the instagib that. Not good for party play at all. Thus, Fred's suggestion of the Holy Freeze aura is more interesting, because it also slows enemies down. Good for your own health and good for throwing a party down by the river.




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