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So we're finally down to the last week of the season, and there are still 3 spots left in the NFC to be decided (Pittsburgh still hasn't clinched officially, but they should be able to beat the Lions) thanks to the hot Redskins beating the Giants and the Panthers gagging away a game against the Cowboys (sorry gismo!). Meanwhile, the Seahawks clinched home-field in the NFC thanks to Alexander's 3 TDs against the Colts.
In the last thread, EliManning brought up the Tomlinson vs. Alexander debate on being the first pick in fantasy drafts. I will admit that I was one of the ones who adamantly said Tomlinson should go before Alexander. Here were my two reasons: first, before this year, Alexander had a tendency to score in bunches and then disappear statwise for a few weeks. Tomlinson was consistant in his scoring in previous years. Second, Tomlinson is involved in the passing game more than Alexander is. Those two things put him over Alexander in my book. Funny thing is, in the non-OTF league I play, the guy with the first pick agonized over who to take, and took Alexander. He ended up winning the title. Course, he had Larry Johnson too, but he wouldn't have gotten to the title game without Alexander's numbers.
Anyway, Nerf-Herder gets his first weekly crown with a 12-4 showing. Dutch, Lostprophet, and FreezerBurn shared second place. Overall, Xoranix leads BeefChunks by 6 games, so he should win that race. Xoranix also leads the percentage race, but Amra is 0.1% behind BeefChunks for second place. Senor Beezer took a hit in the standings thanks to last week and is now in 4th place.
Last week's results:
Week 17 picks:Code:Week 16 Season Percent Name Right Wrong Right Wrong Rafty 8 8 158 82 65.8% axeil 8 8 144 81 64.0% PatMaGroin 9 7 143 82 63.6% Croup 9 7 150 76 66.4% SBR 10 6 149 91 62.1% Ash 8 8 132 81 62.0% skihard 8 8 136 102 57.1% Isolde 5 11 100 92 52.1% Gibbzilla 10 6 69 37 65.1% ogogo 9 7 148 91 61.9% Xoranix 8 8 167 73 69.6% Dutch 11 5 140 100 58.3% Cookies 10 6 140 85 62.2% Lostprophet 11 5 153 86 64.0% Amra 10 6 156 75 67.5% BeefChunks 9 7 161 77 67.6% FreezerBurn 11 5 137 87 61.2% Nerf-Herder 12 4 133 91 59.4% Senor Beezer 8 8 111 55 66.9% Death_Frog 10 6 63 33 65.6% Chirijiraden 9 7
Denver Broncos at San Diego Chargers
N.Y. Giants at Oakland Raiders
Arizona Cardinals at Indianapolis Colts
Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns
Buffalo Bills at N.Y. Jets
Carolina Panthers at Atlanta Falcons
Cincinnati Bengals at Kansas City Chiefs
Detroit Lions at Pittsburgh Steelers
Miami Dolphins at New England Patriots
New Orleans Saints at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Seattle Seahawks at Green Bay Packers
Houston Texans at San Francisco 49ers
Tennessee Titans at Jacksonville Jaguars
Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings
Washington Redskins at Philadelphia Eagles
St. Louis Rams at Dallas Cowboys
I was kind of hoping that the Broncos/Chargers game would have more significance this week, but the Chargers shot themselves in the foot by losing too many close games. Really, the only game that looks to be fun to watch is the Dolphins/Pats game. Pats are fighting for the third seed, while the Dolphins are looking to finish the season over 0.500, which is not-too-shabby considering they have no QB down there. But I bet the game most people will be interested to watch is the Texans/49ers "duel of the century", if only because the loser gets the inside track to the number one pick next year. Part of me wonders if the schedule makers did that on purpose to spice up an otherwise horrible match-up.
Good luck everyone!
Week 17 picks:
Denver Broncos at San Diego Chargers
N.Y. Giants at Oakland Raiders
Arizona Cardinals at Indianapolis Colts
Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns
Buffalo Bills at N.Y. Jets
Carolina Panthers at Atlanta Falcons
Cincinnati Bengals at Kansas City Chiefs
Detroit Lions at Pittsburgh Steelers
Miami Dolphins at New England Patriots
New Orleans Saints at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Seattle Seahawks at Green Bay Packers
Houston Texans at San Francisco 49ers
Tennessee Titans at Jacksonville Jaguars
Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings
Washington Redskins at Philadelphia Eagles
St. Louis Rams at Dallas Cowboys
I believe the MVP award should be given to Shaun Alexander this season, seeing as he may break the rushing touchdown record this week.
Adrian.
Denver Broncos at San Diego Chargers
N.Y. Giants at Oakland Raiders
Arizona Cardinals at Indianapolis Colts
Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns
Buffalo Bills at N.Y. Jets
Carolina Panthers at Atlanta Falcons
Cincinnati Bengals at Kansas City Chiefs
Detroit Lions at Pittsburgh Steelers
Miami Dolphins at New England Patriots
New Orleans Saints at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Seattle Seahawks at Green Bay Packers
Houston Texans at San Francisco 49ers
Tennessee Titans at Jacksonville Jaguars
Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings
Washington Redskins at Philadelphia Eagles
St. Louis Rams at Dallas Cowboys
Boo yah. How bout dem Ravens?
Denver Broncos
N.Y. Giants
Indianapolis Colts
Baltimore Ravens
Buffalo Bills
Carolina Panthers
Cincinnati Bengals
Pittsburgh Steelers
New England Patriots
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Green Bay Packers
Houston Texans
Jacksonville Jaguars
Chicago Bears
Washington Redskins
Dallas Cowboys
PIss on jake p;lumber, he was asnm arsehole in high school and he's a n arsenole still. NO local boy's goona pull the woool over my eysm, he's from Boise, I know how the punk is.
Denver Broncos at San Diego Chargers
N.Y. Giants at Oakland Raiders
Arizona Cardinals at Indianapolis Colts
Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns
Buffalo Bills at N.Y. Jets
Carolina Panthers at Atlanta Falcons
Cincinnati Bengals at Kansas City Chiefs
Detroit Lions at Pittsburgh Steelers
Miami Dolphins at New England Patriots
New Orleans Saints at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Seattle Seahawks at Green Bay Packers
Houston Texans at San Francisco 49ers
Tennessee Titans at Jacksonville Jaguars
Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings
Washington Redskins at Philadelphia Eagles
St. Louis Rams at Dallas Cowboys
I went with Alexander, but Palmer made me think twice and I think he deserves a nod. Alexander could have put up lower numbers and the Seahawks would still be in the playoffs, whereas I think Palmer was the difference between this year's 11-4 and last year's Bengals get-together at Hooters to watch the playoffs on TV and have hot wings.
Palmer has been fantabulous and is the main reason the Bengals are where they are this year compared to last year.
Alexander has been the best player, but it's not called the "Best Player Award" and he's been near this solid for seattle before. So they are learning to play around him.
-D2netDad
Originally Posted by D2netDad
It may not be called the "Best Player Award," but that's who it always goes to. Notice in the MLB it's also called the MVP, but a few years ago it went to the below .500 Rangers with A-Rod. Shaun Alexander should win it, end of story.
Adrian.
I call bull****, at least on the "end of story" part. I refuse to hand out MVPs just because someone broke a record. The fact of the matter is, Carson Palmer is more valuable to the Bengals than Alexander is to the Seahawks. Without the specific skills of Palmer, that Bengal offense couldn't work the way it does. With a slightly lesser version of Alexander (say Corey Dillon if not injured, Willis McGhee or several other backs), the Seahawks would still be on top of the NFC, or at least at the number 2 seed. As Dad said, the Bengals wouldn't be in the playoffs without Palmer.Originally Posted by Gibbzilla
By the way, try these stats out:
Shaun Alexander
Total Yards From Scrimmage: 1885
Total Touchdowns: 27
Average Yards Per Touch: 5.1
Touches Per Game: 24.3
Tiki Barber
Total Yards From Scrimmage: 2127
Total Touchdowns: 12
Average Yards Per Touch: 5.6
Touches Per Game: 25.1
So Barber has a better average per touch, gained 300 more yards and touches the ball slightly more. He also plays on an offense with a SECOND YEAR QUARTERBACK with a 75.1 Quarterback Rating, a much more varied attack that Seattle's, and had 6 goalline touchdowns taken away from him by Brandon Jacobs (which is a questionable strategy that also cost the Giants touchdowns).
I'll trade the 15 touchdowns (not from the whole offense, but from the specific player) for the rest of the stats, including the fact that Barber has won games singlehandedly for the Giants (see the Kansas City game) when the rest of the team was playing poorly, and is used to bail out Manning when he has bad games.
I'd take Tiki Barber over Shaun Alexander for MVP.
(Disclaimer: I'm a Giants fan, which I know you'll hold against me. But it's true.)
Anyways, picks for the week:
Denver Broncos at San Diego Chargers
N.Y. Giants at Oakland Raiders
Arizona Cardinals at Indianapolis Colts
Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns
Buffalo Bills at N.Y. Jets
Carolina Panthers at Atlanta Falcons
Cincinnati Bengals at Kansas City Chiefs
Detroit Lions at Pittsburgh Steelers
Miami Dolphins at New England Patriots
New Orleans Saints at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Seattle Seahawks at Green Bay Packers
Houston Texans at San Francisco 49ers
Tennessee Titans at Jacksonville Jaguars
Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings
Washington Redskins at Philadelphia Eagles
St. Louis Rams at Dallas Cowboys
Ahhh Week 17, bringing us the worst game of the year: Houston vs San Francisco. Ugh.
Great playoff determining games here this week. Some real, REAL big ones. I love it.
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