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All the pro smiters use enigma for the base stats and dr. Ber Shako (18) Ber HoZ (8) Dungo (15) and Engima (8) = 49% DR. The only other armor that rivals an enigma has to be btals armor, which is bugged and i would not even recommend using it. Have fun using the fort when u get prisoned by a nec =)Originally Posted by inanefedaykin
Grief does enough damage on its own and the marginal damage added to it by fort is not even needed nor is it ever necessary
300% is not marginal and of course you don't really need enigma against a pnb nec. Desynch charge gets you around faster then bone prison can pop up.
I have read many threads about the best pvp smiter armor and people more knowledgable than i have consistently answered that enigma is the best choice. Fort adds 50 more pvp damage, which IS very marginal when compared to the damage by Grief. Enigma, with its +2 skills, adds nearly the same damage plus provides other incredible mods (yes +strength adds to ur smite damage considerably)
Fusa and Mak0, the 2 best V/T in USEast, all use enigma. So, yes while i am appealing to authority, there must be a correlation between their build and their skills.
Common consensus: Enigma or Btals (yuck)
Edit - i rummaged through more threads and found more things to add:
1) the +2 skill on enigma is effectively +2 to bo, +2to foh and +2 to conviction (for V/T), +2 smite, +2 HS etc
2) Enigma - %5 max life, more life than the +life given by Fort
Im pretty sure u will still get bone prisoned sooner or later by a good nec. So desyncing with charge is not a solution
First off, a v/t build is very different then a pure smiter build and yes, for v/ts enigma is clearly the best choice.
I don't know where you're getting 50 either. Perhaps you could point me towards a thread. Correct me if I'm wrong but with fort
400 damage from grief +300%=1200 damage
1200/6(pvp penalty)=200
200/2(for 50% dr)=100 more per smite
340 damage from grief +300%=1020 damage
1020/6=170
170/2=85 more per smite
Without fort
400 damage from grief=400
400/6=67
67/2=34 more damage per smite
340 damage from grief=340
340/6=57
57/2=29 more damage from smite
Exactly how much damage does +2 skills and 65 str add? A max damage grief is less then half the damage from a minimum damage with fort. As for +bo/hs, well you see, what most people will do is take a little concept called prebuffing and apply it. It works wonders really.
here are the links:
they have been thoroughly convincing
http://www.dtrades.org/index.php?showtopic=224739
http://www.dtrades.org/index.php?showtopic=197913
http://www.dtrades.org/index.php?showtopic=236005
Perhaps you'd like to post a link that even begins to prove your point.
i wont bother proving my point when better people than u or i have already settled it. You can continue believing that fort is the best smite armor but i could not care less. I am not a genius in the workings of diablo but am merely regurgitating what BETTER people than u have done. Thanks.
Perhaps you should link to something more then
Person 1: OMGS BTALS!!!
Person 2: OMGS BTALS IS EXPENSIVE USE ENIGMA NEWB!!!!
Person 3: OMGS FORT GIVES MORE DAMAGE!!!
Person 4: OMGS FORT DOENS'T WORK WITH SMITE!!!
Person 3: YES IT DOES NEWB!!!
Person 5: COH!
Everyone else: NO COH!
if u ignore those childish posts, which consist of relatively 40%, u will find things more enlightening than the stuff u dealt. I refuse to respond anymore to ur posts if u choose to ignore the advice of others. Perhaps we can arrange a duel between 2 smiters with enigma and fort?
Oh yea, anyone who bothers being a pure smiter in pvp will only get owned. Its commonly known that V/T is the way to go so ur idea of using fort shall only be useful for those bound for failure.
Edit - the spams are there mostly because for every post u get fg (forum gold).
Btw: Prebuffing? Sure waste stash place (and time) for a 3x2 armor with +2 skills. Sorry but stash place is more useful to hold the numerous shields etc that Smiters need, ex: exile, upped HoZ, Stormshield (for max dr + absorb), Sanctuary, Lo shaft/shako and more.
Once again, post links to actual math or concede that you have no proof. Fort gives the best damage and pure smiters are fine for pvp.
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