Oh, ok. Well that's cool then!
Titans is definitely not 25-50 anymore.
I'm asking Lem [25 on Price Guide] and ..about eight people have left immediately without a word. The titans were Unid.
As I was typing this, another person joined my trade game. He offered Fal and refused to go any higher. I offered an Amn and a +2 sorc tiara and he did all three for the Titans. He seemed to want it more than the others considerring he actually bargained, whereas the others just left without a word.
So..Titans is not 25-50 O:
Also.. somebody I know traded runes worth an Um for a 194 Jalal's. 190+ is worth more than 50Pts/Pul simply because everybody is a greedy bastard. I then traded a Mal for it and a 3os 576 Boneweave non-eth.
Last of all, my friend got a 27 Nagel for 150/5 [absolute minimum] Bartuc's. Now, I will admit that he got a good deal.. but Nagels are not 50-100 anymore. 29/30 are probably worth something [don't know what], but lower really aren't worth Pul [less].
I'm not a very good trader, so i use the PG a lot. So i figure i'll post my trade. I don't know if it was a good trade or not, so i don't know if it will help. I traded a +3/19/19 Eschuta for 36/15 Dungos and Mal. Hope that helps. let me know if it was a reasonable trade.
I think part of that might be people wouldn't take the time to swap single PGems. Crafters usually look for bulks, and B-net trades tend to take longer, I think, since you have to go into a game, chat briefly to confirm what people are trading, make a new normal game with a mule, wait for a while, leave, re-find the person who forgot the name/password, make a new game... I'm exaggerating, but you get the idea.Originally Posted by Verbatim
Also, just for info, unless it's changed since I saw last, crafted item affixes don't work the same way as gambling. Gambling is a +/- depending on your Clvl, while crafting ilvl is a mix of input ilvl and clvl.
With that said, I generally see the follow key ratio on the forums (if you feel like pricing keys) - 1 D-key = 3 H-keys = 3 T-keys. Seen/made trades about this ratio 4 times or so.
Hi, I just wanted to give my input on a couple values in the price guide.
First of all, I believe the values of the high runes are off a bit. This is based soley from my experience on BNet, as hr's are few and far betwen in the trade forums... I don't think it's possible to get a Jah / Ber for 2 Ist + Mal right now. Many trades I've seen they're going for something like 3 Ist to 3 Ist + Um (900 - 1000 points). I was able to get a Jah for 2 Ist Mal, though I consider that lucky as I have not seen any more hr's offered at that price. Lo is going for even more than Jah / Ber if you can find one. Everyone wants Forts and Griefs and the the demand is very high for these. I easily snatched up 4 Ist for mine (1200 points?!), but now I'm thinking I might have even been able to get more? I think it's just that people are ready to start making their Engimas and such, but the supply of runes isn't there yet which is affecting the price. Once the dupes start circulating as usual, this will change I'm sure. Some of the lower rune points values I believe could use some altering as well... Just my two cents on that
And here's a couple prices I've noticed. Again, purely based on my experience...
Shako - I believe this is trading for Gul straight up. I think I can confirm that.
Tals Armor - I don't know if it's even possible to gauge the price of this at the moment. It's going for an arm and a leg...and probably your soul to. I've seen consistent offers of like Vex.
Occy - I think this is going for more than Pul. I would put it anywhere from
Um to Mal.
Eth Titan's - Pul to Um I think, norm are not in demand
Windforce - Mal+? I offered Um Pul Lem for one which was roughly Mal and I got turned down. Seen lots of Windforce 4 Ist games.
Vamp - a decent one I think can go for Um
Viper - These have gone down. I think you could probably get a Pul for a good one. Lem for a lower one.
HoZ - Way more than Ist. You can't even get a HoZ for less than Gul. I think lower ones are going for Gul - 2 Ist. Hr's for the high end ones.
Sandtreks - Good ones with 15 / 15 are about Pul I think.
Perfect Nagel - Pul. Lower Nagels aren't worth as much anymore.
IK Armor - Ist I believe. That's all people want from that set. Other pieces are going for PGems as usual... Yes that guy that traded the Warcry GC for an IK Maul got ripped off big time
PCombat GC - Ist I think. Never seen one offered for less than that.
Cold GC - Um to Mal if I recall
There you go. I hope this helps. Some of it may be wrong ( or even most of it ), but I figured I would give my input anyways
Your eschutas was worth a bit more than that, but if you really needed the dungos, it wasn't too bad. Figure you probably could have gotten ist-2xist for that eschutas runewise.
I confirm most of these prices, except for a few.And here's a couple prices I've noticed. Again, purely based on my experience...
Shako - I believe this is trading for Gul straight up. I think I can confirm that.
Tals Armor - I don't know if it's even possible to gauge the price of this at the moment. It's going for an arm and a leg...and probably your soul to. I've seen consistent offers of like Vex.
Occy - I think this is going for more than Pul. I would put it anywhere from
Um to Mal.
Eth Titan's - Pul to Um I think, norm are not in demand
Windforce - Mal+? I offered Um Pul Lem for one which was roughly Mal and I got turned down. Seen lots of Windforce 4 Ist games.
Vamp - a decent one I think can go for Um
Viper - These have gone down. I think you could probably get a Pul for a good one. Lem for a lower one.
HoZ - Way more than Ist. You can't even get a HoZ for less than Gul. I think lower ones are going for Gul - 2 Ist. Hr's for the high end ones.
Sandtreks - Good ones with 15 / 15 are about Pul I think.
Perfect Nagel - Pul. Lower Nagels aren't worth as much anymore.
IK Armor - Ist I believe. That's all people want from that set. Other pieces are going for PGems as usual... Yes that guy that traded the Warcry GC for an IK Maul got ripped off big time
PCombat GC - Ist I think. Never seen one offered for less than that.
Cold GC - Um to Mal if I recall
There you go. I hope this helps. Some of it may be wrong ( or even most of it ), but I figured I would give my input anyways
Eth Titan's is worth atleast a Mal-Ist, I traded mine for 2 Ists since it had high %ed (more than 190). It depends a lot on that stat, but I'd say anywhere from Mal - 2 Ists, is a fair price.
Cold GC - Mal
Occy - Mal, can go up or down, to Um/Ist, but pretty much a Mal
Then here's a few others I've noticed:
Soj - Gul, the seller might ask you to add like an Um or Pul though
Mid-Range Mara's - 3-4 Ists
Key Set - Um
1 DKey - 2Tkeys or 2Hkeys, sometimes you can get even 3
Arachnid's Mesh - Mal or Ist
Thanks for all the pricing info!!
Looks like I can start to compile these prices and throw out the provo guide - I'll wait until the weekend to do it, so there are a few more days to discuss items that you think we can include.
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Wasnt sure how i was supposed to contact you, but I just sold a 4OS Monarch (138 def) for an 11c/10/10 glacial ormus and 11/10 Sandstorm Treks, ill leave deciding what pts to count these as, since they are not the best of their %'s etc, good job on the new price guide, i like the pts as opposed to all runes
tks,
tempest
I can verify that skillers that are normally in high demand
are not moving on the marketplace. My +1 to traps gc
went thru two seven day trade windows with no bids
in either occurance.
I wonder if the problem might be that the normal currency
(runes) are in too short a supply for trading.
As for the skillers I think finally now people might be trading for them. Before people cared less about the skillers and more about the actual items they needed. But alot of the higher end people are getting their items and now are looking for skillers, so hopefully soon prices will stabilize on these. Speaking of which last night I traded my Traps GC w/ 36 life for an ohm.
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