Trang Pally Help please...

[Wmeredith]

I know nothing about Mage Pally's. I've only ever played melee Pally builds. I have recently obtained about half of the gear I need to make a FB/Hydra/Conviction-din. I was wondering if any of the Paladin mage experts could point out any flaws in this build idea (my gear mainly, I'm familiar with the build)...

Main skills will be Hydra and Fireball. I have a nice Holy shield and Maxed convict, but the rest of this pally's skills are set up as a Dreamer. I suppose the maxed Salvation and Light Res auras will be party friendly. Anyway, I plan on running convict most of the time, while laying down hydras and spamming Fireballs.

Gear:
Trang Glove
Trang Belt
Dragonscale
These are necessary to get the Hydra and Fireball going.

2 SoJ's
20 Mara's
Harlequin Crest
Upp'd Perf Viper Magi (Maybe FB Ormus)
Wizspike (Maybe Moonfall, but I'll seriously be hurting for resists.)
Silkweave

What Charms? Life + mana I guess. I don't think res will be a probelm. (I have no anni.) I'll probably run dual spirits on switch for Holy shield pre-buff.

I'm comfortable with all this gear, except I have no idea what the FCR BP's are for a Pally. If anyone has built one of these and can offer any advice it would be appreciated.

By the way, I know I won't be godly in hell, I just want to be party friendly (Convict/Max Salvation) and freak people out with my hydras and FB's .

[HeavAngel]

Here's a Guide on Mages

[Wmeredith]

Thanks, I checked out the FB guides and they helped a lot.

[Izo Huio]

Stick Fire Facats everywhere and you'll be fine, although, you may wanna go 3 trang oul items for firewall, which although, is harder to use, does alot of damage...

Note: You need a FI Solution... a Holy Freeze Merc should be helpful...

[GodObelisk]

Stick Fire Facats everywhere and you'll be fine, although, you may wanna go 3 trang oul items for firewall, which although, is harder to use, does alot of damage...

Note: You need a FI Solution... a Holy Freeze Merc should be helpful...

To use firewall, u hv to tank the monsters, thereby making them stationary. Use of HF merc + unique thresher is a good combination for most builds. Same as for fire mage.

However does fire bolt/ball (cant recall) deal out sufficient dmg in hell to be useful??

[[exile]]

You should try to PM Shr00mtrip, as far as I know he's the only person who made a successful one.

There is this guide as well, in which Lovelygods and I had a bunch of technical conversation. I'd really rather not repeat what I wrote there (). It's focused on Fire Ball Paladins. I think the guide Heav linked was to normal mages (Hammer/FoH).

So if you need any more help, feel free to PM me as well. I had plans to make one of these but eventually got caught up in some other projects like my WolfBarb, WWBarb, Liberator, Dreamadin, etc. But anyways I still remember a lot of what I had planned. I'll probably make this one very soon. I'm assuming you're making this on USEast Ladder so we could test them out together at some point or other

Shr00mtrip's FBP is also on USEast Ladder. His account is *Shr00mtrip (those are zeros); mine are *exi1e through *exi5e, if you ever need to catch me online for info feel free. I can't volunteer Shr00m's help but you could go ahead and whisper him anyways .

Good luck.

[Liliel]

You must use Moonfall; Fireball won't be of use without it. A ring of Firebolt charges is great too. Synergy is probably more useful than +skill. +3FB +15% Fire Ormus Robes is the best armour you can get, but failing that a Vipermagi would suffice (or if you can manage it, CoH). You can Um/PDiamond your shield, helm and armour if you feel the need. Moonfall may as well have a fire facet. As for charms, you'll need shimmering/scintillating charms for sure, and +life and mana is always good. You may find that rare boots with 20+ lit and fire resists is preferable to Silkweaves. Get a CtA on switch if you can, the mana boost is great. You might find you'll actually want to put some points into Energy with this build. Shocking, I know.

[Wmeredith]

I've got a trade waiting on a 14% FB Ormus right now.

I put him together last night. He looks like this:

Shako
Perf Upp'd Vmagi
Wiz Spike (Waiting on a Moonfall trade)
DragonScale
Eye of etlich
FCR/Mana/all res ring
Trabg belt/Glove
BK ring (Will replace with SoJ soon)
Silkweaves (Mana)

I like him, very unique. The fireball damage isn't great, but the moonfall is coming, and this guy is mostly a Conviction/Salvation antenna for a party I run with a lot. I like it. Thanks for all the input everyone. Not sure if I want to spend the runeage on the Fire Facets for this guy. I may put an SoJ on him and a Moonfall and call it done.

[[exile]]

I strongly suggest these gear switches:

DragonScale -> 35% Paladin-only Spirit (Resist All automod)
Eye of etlich -> Mara's would really beef up your lowered resists after you swap out your Viper and Wiz.
FCR/Mana/all res ring -> (Magic) Ring of Fire Bolt, lvl5. You already hit the 75%FCR breakpoint with Spirit/Trang/Ormus.

And of course, your Moonfall/Ormus replacements.

Dragonscale is cool because of the Hydra and Fire damage bonus, but is otherwise a very useless shield. Hydra does very low damage, and that can't be helped at all. You really wouldn't be able to kill anything big with it.

[Shr00mtrip]

Well... looks like I missed a lot after being gone a week.

My advice/help is free to be asked for although it looks like exile has helped you out a fair bit. My Pally does about 1.3k with basically the best gear available. I just need one more 5/5 fire facet to finish it off. I think the top damage will be just under 1.4k without Conviction. I have found it almost imperative to get some kind of backupskill for FI because even if you get rid of the immune... it takes FOREVER to fireball them to death. FOH seems to be taking a little too long for my liking even with the max synergy,so a nice wep with Vengence should be fine for that on the switch, along with whatever merc you choose. For charms... resists are the only real things lacking for me that I've seen, try to get some mana with them to help out. I kinda went away from Salvation because without Convic... you do little to no damage, but for the party people, Salvation will be alright if you want to let them do the killing :lol: .

A bit OT:I have a firebolt ring or two lying around for anyone that needs.

Good luck to ya

*shr00mtrip