Attack speed with beast? and some other questions... der=0>

[C-Beat]

Hi!

I'm thinking of doing a summoner who uses beast to fight alongside the skellies. What is this build called btw?

anyway, does the fana from beast benefit the skellies at all or is it to low slvl?

What fpa can a nec achieve with a beast berseker axe?

is it neccesary to max poison dagger for the ar?

is it a bad idea to go melee alongside the skellies? will there be room for me to fight the monsters or will the skellies take up all the space?

regards
C-Beat

[SlaaneshBen]

It is KBobs CommandoMancer build, of which I am a disciple and follower!

I am not sure about attack speeds, I never get too technical like that. But I know that you should be able to achieve a decent attack speed with beast, and some nice gloves or things like Warlords ammy etc, coupled with the Fanatacism aura.... Then there is always the inclusion of becoming a werebear that Beast has.

5+ Poison Dagger is recommended in Kbobs guide, along with items such as Ravenfrost to increase dex/AR. I would guess with a decent amount of +Skills items you will end up at 13/14 lvl Poison Dagger, which should add a lovely amount of AR.

Along similar lines, does anyone know if +to all skills adds to the aura given by the beast weapon? I've decided that getting a legit one is worth it, given how much fun i am having currently playing my Mancer.

Although I only have current skill lvl 20 RS/SM, with +skills from itamz, I find there is more than enough room for me to sneak in there and scrap with alongside my minions. I am sure even when you get to 12+ skellies, 7+ mages, a gumby and a merc there will be room to get stuck in, even being like a mini "hitman" putting your power where it is needed in the ruck while the rest of the sloggers just get stuck in with the first critter that comes along!

Oh, a quick recommendation for an item for lvling - Honor runeword inna flail or other fast weapon. Great combat mods on it, and is cheap as chips (AMN+EL+ITH+TIR+SOL)! A five socket basic one handed weapon wont set you back too much either (I got my flail for 6 PGems from the ETF), and people will always keep those kinds of items since a good CTA can be made in similar items (5 socket single handed items)

Ben/BloodiedStyx/*PlayStable

[C-Beat]

thx for the reply ben!

This build sure sounds fun. And it doesnt require that many skill points...where should the rest go? :scratch:

20 RS
20 SK
20 Poison dagger (i like bit ar )
rest in mages and?

Can someone fill us in on attack speeds with beast?

regards
C-Beat

[SlaaneshBen]

Don't neglect your curses!

I would at least get
1 in Decrep
1 in Amp
1 in Life Tap

And their prerequisites. I would think about sticking a point in each of the AI curses. I would also get
1+ in clay golem
1 in golem mastery
1 in summon resist

Your plus skill Itamz should push these up to very usable and respectable levels.

If its AR you are concerned with, what about using daemon limb before you go out? The enchant charges would massively boost AR and even dmg to some extent. Then, those points saved from poison dagger could be invested elsewhere. CE is a must, for when times get heavy.

Another lvling tip I have is I wouldn't level as per a usual Summoner. I would try and always get in the thick of it from the word GO! All the lower runewords, such as steel, stealth, strength, honour, ancient's pledge, malice are all massively useful at lower levels, and you can always have a wand and head with +skills on the switch, to prebuff your bone armour/skellies and golem.

Ben/BloodiedStyx/*PlayStable

[Mad Mantis]

anyway, does the fana from beast benefit the skellies at all or is it to low slvl?

Best thing to ever happen to your Skellies. It will definitely boost them.

What fpa can a nec achieve with a beast berseker axe?

IAS	Frames per attack	Attacks per second 
0%	14			1.7 
8%	13			1.9 
22%	12			2 
40%	11			2.2 
72%	10			2.5

[C-Beat]

Ben: the auras was a given

Mad Mantis: Great! just what i wanted...10fpa is easily reach with beast since it grants ias + fanatism. Isnt it posible to reach 9fpa though?

C-Beat

[Mad Mantis]

It might be possible to attain even faster attack rates, but I haven't found figures on them.