Meteorbster and Cold armors

[melianor]

All right with new link I could see where from came 6th skill (2 items partial set on orb... was no a case in 1.09 as I can recall)
So I guess we could agree on one thing - untill you get your hands on enigma or/and chain of honor or/and death fathom tals set about as good as uniques counterpart.
On a side note:
Fathom give you (if perfect) 30% fire damage boost and 40% cold damage boost - perfect for meteor-orb (ball-orb) set which is good enouth to ofset tals bonuses .... all of em for similar build

With Chains or Enigma you would certainly gain on the damage lvl again. Yup agreed.

Hmm when i look up Death's Fathom i get these stats:
+3 To Sorceress Skill Levels
+20% Faster Cast Rate
+15-30% To Cold Skill Damage (varies)
Lightning Resist +25-40% (varies)
Fire Resist +25-40% (varies)
http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/ite...orceress.shtml

+30% Cold damage is very nice for a BLizz Sorc.
Maybe you mean Eschuta's Temper ?
+1-3 To Sorceress Skill Levels (varies)
+40% Faster Cast Rate
+10-20% To Fire Skill Damage (varies)
+10-20% To Lightning Skill Damage (varies)
+20-30 To Energy

This would be good for a Fire/LIghtning build. Sadly there is no Orb giving added damage for Fire and cold :(

Concerning Enigma or CoH i would also suggest adding some +5/-5 Facets of your choice of elemental tree. +skills with -xx% resistances simply rock. The more the better ofcourse

[sorcyone]

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i like shiver armor because it works on attack, not on hit. not useful of course if you are never attacked, immensely useful for tp'ing through an area.

According to Arreat Summit, Shiver Armor acts when you are hit, same as Frozen Armor, except Shiver Armor only slows, while Frozen Armor freezes.
Shiver Armor also adds some negligible damage.
Both the slow and the freeze are effective at low levels even in Hell. With a weapon switch and +skills Shiver gets 4 second slow Frozen 2 second freeze. In Hell divide by 4. Take your pick 1 second slow, or 0.5 second freeze, I will take the freeze anyday.

[Superhal]

According to Arreat Summit, Shiver Armor acts when you are hit, same as Frozen Armor, except Shiver Armor only slows, while Frozen Armor freezes.
Shiver Armor also adds some negligible damage.
Both the slow and the freeze are effective at low levels even in Hell. With a weapon switch and +skills Shiver gets 4 second slow Frozen 2 second freeze. In Hell divide by 4. Take your pick 1 second slow, or 0.5 second freeze, I will take the freeze anyday.

go ahead and try it. shiver works on attack. chilling/frozen works on hit only.

[Mikk0]

whoa.. so long threat.. :clap:

tho it got lil out of hands there ... :scratch:

anyway.. tanatus:

when you come and suggest ome of these 'yyber item builds' read the topic pls.. no offence but hey, if you post that you want to make a nova sorc, i wont post over there and say dont do it, xxx spell is better.

it is kinda the same here with items

ty all for these awesom aswers :drink:

[Tanatus]

For me facets not that much crucial because most of my builts relay on FO as main attack and I usualy anyhow brake mark 17CM with items so I am at cap for cold...
On other hand I still dont get what so uber with enigma and why everyone accept that SoJ and Anni not uber and Enigma/CoH are.
Slight derailing here but here is economic way to get Enigma/CoH...
On US-East price on Enigma/CoH pretty solid and equal 2 SoJ. Best items to get fast margin profit is occy and tal's ammy. You can get then as low as Lem (for occy) if you do trade's like that Lem-Occy-Um (couple times) or for Tal's ammy is usual lowest price is Mal then you go like Mal-Tal's-Ist-Ber. You can get Lem for many many mid lvl uniques/set items fairly easy. From what I have seen getting SoJ and Anni a bit more expensive then getting Enigma. In a sence you can get Anni again via chain starting from Lem ... Lem-Occy-Um-Shako-Anni but I dont see a way of getting cheap SoJ on ladder, ppl dont pay SoJ for Ist

[Panix]

For me facets not that much crucial because most of my builts relay on FO as main attack and I usualy anyhow brake mark 17CM with items so I am at cap for cold...
On other hand I still dont get what so uber with enigma and why everyone accept that SoJ and Anni not uber and Enigma/CoH are.
Slight derailing here but here is economic way to get Enigma/CoH...
On US-East price on Enigma/CoH pretty solid and equal 2 SoJ. Best items to get fast margin profit is occy and tal's ammy. You can get then as low as Lem (for occy) if you do trade's like that Lem-Occy-Um (couple times) or for Tal's ammy is usual lowest price is Mal then you go like Mal-Tal's-Ist-Ber. You can get Lem for many many mid lvl uniques/set items fairly easy. From what I have seen getting SoJ and Anni a bit more expensive then getting Enigma. In a sence you can get Anni again via chain starting from Lem ... Lem-Occy-Um-Shako-Anni but I dont see a way of getting cheap SoJ on ladder, ppl dont pay SoJ for Ist

omg do this mean I can be rich now? free enigma plz :lol:

I need to find that post where Melianor says how to get tal's armor for pgems I've been finding SOMETHING worth buying with all of the gems I've been stockpiling.

*EDIT* After posting this, I was browsing the trade forums and saw a post and posted an offer. I continued to look and then I saw someone making a phat offer for some marrowalks. I sighed, thinking, I'll never be able to afford THAT. I decide to go drop some rocks on meph with my meteorb sorc. First thing that guy drops to me, unique boneweave boots and another whitstan's guard. :flip: I'M HAPPY

[melianor]

I sold a Tal's armor recently for 100 Pgems + @, where @ was a midlvl rune.
That was on Europe Trading Forum though....


To a player who has already got all he needs for his build or collection, pgems are absolutly valuable for charm rerolls, crafting and rare item rerolls.


Enigma is valueable for MF,+2skills,Teleport......
CoH, high resists, +2 skills.
Whereelse do you get +2 skills on armor, besides Arkaine's ?
3-4 possible armors in game with +2skills. Says enough for the price, also the kind of runes you have to use to make them :o

[sorcyone]

go ahead and try it. shiver works on attack. chilling/frozen works on hit only.

I will give it a try. Assuming it works, what is the benefit over frozen armour ? The monsters are going to be chilled anyway from Orb (and HF merc). I think I would still prefer them frozen.