View Full Version : Diablo 3 Armor Tiers 2-16 (All Classes) by Force
As title say vid showing armor tiers 2-16 for all classes. I've no idea where Force got this pics, maybe when he was at Blizzard HQ last week he got some exclusive footage.
Anyway, vid here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z783Ttu2BU
Cincinnati
20-03-2012, 20:36
Ugh, still can't get over their need to show off the characters zoomed in, they lack so much detail. With that said I can't say i'm very impressed with the overall looks of the armors, the monk ones for instance look rather plain and boring.
Panopticon
20-03-2012, 20:37
Wow. Some of those are really incredible... and some of them are absolutely hideous.
Barb and Monk have a few notable "WTF were they thinking" armors. The WD was pretty awesome though.
Truth be told, I'm a little disappointed in some of these :P. Not only do some of them not look nice (not a fan of the Wizard's tier 13), some of the lower-tier ones look like they could be higher-tier than one that actually IS from a higher tier (for instance, the Barb's Tier 5 looks like it could be better than his Tier 8).
I find the WD and Wizard the most consistent in terms of awesome-looking armour (with the exception of the aforementioned tier 13 wiz :P)
They probably look better in-game and animated, and I'm probably not going to care how they look as long as they make me stronger in the end, though :P.
Most of these armor sets can also be viewed in our gallery as well. :)
I would assume these shots are from the emulator, but I'm not sure. I'll watch the full vid to see.
betazoid
20-03-2012, 20:49
So just to confirm, these are general magic/rare base items, four each difficulty level and set/legendary has it own unique looks?
I wouldn´t stare much these static pictures cause many high level ones should be animated and look much better in game.
they are all like jokes except wd ones
Kblavkalash
20-03-2012, 20:54
Everything is cool, but I am just wondering one very important thing - can lower tier armors have affixes just as good as higher tier armors?
I think not and that's very bad thing. Everyone likes different armors, but we will be forced to use always higher tier when possible because it will always be better. I won't be able to choose tier 12 armor even if I like it, because level 13/14/15/16 will have much better stats.
So in the end, everyone at inferno going to use those highest tier armors and look the same :(
So just to confirm, these are general magic/rare base items, four each difficulty level and set/legendary has it own unique looks?
That is correct! :)
Although I always thought the tentacle-mask for the WD was a legendary item :P. Apparently its just part of a 'regular' armour set!
So in the end, everyone at inferno going to use those highest tier armors and look the same :(
Hopefully there's a greater variety of unique set armour later in the game which are tailored to enhance different builds for the same character, so you'll still see variety in the endgame....I hope. >_>
Kblavkalash
20-03-2012, 21:04
I hope so... Because for example tier 13 barbarian's armor looks like 10x times better than tier 16 for me personally, but if I will get tier 16 I will probably be forced to use it just because it will have better stats.
betazoid
20-03-2012, 21:05
Everything is cool, but I am just wondering one very important thing - can lower tier armors have affixes just as good as higher tier armors?
Well if this would be D2 that is yes, but you would have a lower armor rating. I assume all items drop also in inferno so it should be the same, item level based on mob level and have a better stats.
BatterHawk
20-03-2012, 21:09
Much better than expected imo! No starfish-hats... Yay!! :D
Meh, only WD looks BADASS and I mean every WD set. That's the stuff. But the others are really trashy, especially Wizard and DH... Don't like Wiz and DH at all.
l actually really liked these!
Kblavkalash
20-03-2012, 21:20
Well if this would be D2 that is yes, but you would have a lower armor rating. I assume all items drop also in inferno so it should be the same, item level based on mob level and have a better stats.
I hope that's the case :)
I hope that's the case :)
But it's also weird cuz it kinda forces you to use higher armor ones. There isn't strength requirements, only level requirements. So if it stays like that, you'd want to use only the last set of tiers, which is odd really.
Kblavkalash
20-03-2012, 21:31
But it's also weird cuz it kinda forces you to use higher armor ones. There isn't strength requirements, only level requirements. So if it stays like that, you'd want to use only the last set of tiers, which is odd really.
Well if you can find ALL tiers in higher difficulties with best possible stats then it's fine. I mean higher level items will have a little bit higher base stats, like Armor or Damage (if weapon), but I can sacrifice a little of that to wear what I really like.
To take example from D2, you could make Enigma in Dusk Shroud (if you enjoy look of that armor) even though it had little bit less defense than Archon Plate.
Nice - now I only have one char to play (Wizard). No Barb for me if they don't patch those horrible looking shoulder pads. And what's with the hooves for all the high lvl boots? Are they all cow-themed or smth? :scratchchin:
I know I know - I could always use vanishing dyes. But then I don't like running around naked either. How hard is it to make an armor that looks like you could actually *fight* in it, instead of wearing it for a costume-party? -.- I can't wait to see some idiots dye these suits pink and purple and run around spouting nonsense, too. What could be better than some random rainbow folks joining your game to cheer up the day? :alright::highfive:
HardRock
20-03-2012, 21:58
I would assume these shots are from the emulator
They can't be from anywhere else.
Like you said, pictures of all armor sets were available in the gallery here for some time, thanks to Risingred. Force is late to the party by about 5 months.
Also, the sets look much better in-game and in motion. The lighting in the character selection screen doesn't do them justice.
The DH and Wizard ones seemed a little dull for me, too, for the most part. But I rarely care what my toons look like, so whatever. :badteeth:
yovargas
20-03-2012, 22:47
Aesthetic criticisms aside, the designers made 2 huge flaws in these creations:
1 - there is no clear sense of progress between the lvls which in a game like Diablo is the most important part of designing these. lvl 16 Wiz has more exposed skin then the previous 3 lvls, for example.
2 - the designers apparently completely forgot that the armor looks need to mix n' match reasonably well since everything drops randomly. The Monk might end up wearing pink, blue, green, and gold from different pieces (thank goodness for dies!), not to mention the overall shapes hugely mismatch with some sleek looks right before spiky or bulky looks.
It's like they forgot which game they were designing these for. Pretty big failure even putting aside how many I personally find hideous.
Cincinnati
20-03-2012, 22:52
Aesthetic criticisms aside, the designers made 2 huge flaws in these creations:
1 - there is no clear sense of progress between the lvls which in a game like Diablo is the most important part of designing these. lvl 16 Wiz has more exposed skin then the previous 3 lvls, for example.
2 - the designers apparently completely forgot that the armor looks need to mix n' match reasonably well since everything drops randomly. The Monk might end up wearing pink, blue, green, and gold from different pieces (thank goodness for dies!), not to mention the overall shapes hugely mismatch with some sleek looks right before spiky or bulky looks.
It's like they forgot which game they were designing these for. Pretty big failure even putting aside how many I personally find hideous.
The thought struck me aswell. It's gonna look super weird mixing some of these sets together.
I think majority of them are over the top and quite unattractive, atleast from this view. They kinda look like a blind person glued them together from different pieces. I do like some elements, especially the witch doctor headgear I don't think could be much better. Maybe a bit smaller though.
I also don't think they are distictive enough as tiers and agree that when you wear pieces from different sets the results could be even more messy. But also the reverse could be true and you would be able to tone down your characters appearance.
Panopticon
20-03-2012, 23:19
With regard to mixing and matching, the shoulders and helm are the iconic pieces of the tier. So wearing T6 chest with T12 shoulders should not look terribly out of place, barring them being different colors of course, which is easily taken care of.
TheDestructor
20-03-2012, 23:27
They're all amazing. I hate them all equally.
yovargas
20-03-2012, 23:44
So wearing T6 chest with T12 shoulders should not look terribly out of place.
Look at Barb's T5 pants and T6 chest. The T5 pants are big, layered, full metal contraptions. T6 chest, for some reason, is just a couple straps. Having the huge metal pants on and a mostly bare chest will look nonsensical. This is not the most egregious example at all but it's particularly striking because they are right next to each other (and the "higher" level is clearly lighter).
Lulz. They were super serious when they said this game was tuned explicitly for the isometric camera angle.
P.S. Still want a way to transform armor looks into a different tier. Most of the armors I like are in the 8-13 range.
Those came out last year. They were added to the gallery and reported in the news at that time.
raveharu
21-03-2012, 00:57
Those are pretty old and not updated.
Many unique items have been removed from the database, they are up for a revamp.
Big big improvement from the boring repeated designs in D2lod, Blizzard excels in this area.
Wanderlei
21-03-2012, 01:04
Barb's Tier 14 looks like something out of Donnie Darko.
Those are pretty old and not updated.
I'm not so sure - a lot of these were shown just earlier this month at the GDC. I'm pretty sure that what we see here is what they're rolling with at launch.
I'm still not sure how these "tiers" work. So like, if a tier 13 regular white item is called Onyx (Onyx plate, Onyx boots, etc), then a full Onyx get-up would look like that?
Kblavkalash
21-03-2012, 06:46
Got a reply from Jay Wilson on this:
@Angryrobotics (https://twitter.com/#!/Angryrobotics) Hi, can lower tier items get affixes just as good and high as higher tier items? Or higher tier is pretty much always better?
@Kblavkalash (https://twitter.com/#!/Kblavkalash) higher tier have access to higher quality affixes, but can still roll lower quality.
That's what I was always afraid of - higher tier items will get better pool of affixes which means that it's pretty much always better to use higher tier item even if you dislike the look of it.
raveharu
21-03-2012, 06:56
Got a reply from Jay Wilson on this:
@Angryrobotics (https://twitter.com/#!/Angryrobotics) Hi, can lower tier items get affixes just as good and high as higher tier items? Or higher tier is pretty much always better?
@Kblavkalash (https://twitter.com/#!/Kblavkalash) higher tier have access to higher quality affixes, but can still roll lower quality.
That's what I was always afraid of - higher tier items will get better pool of affixes which means that it's pretty much always better to use higher tier item even if you dislike the look of it.
It's worked for D2lod, and almost every other game I've played. I don't see any issues.
Kblavkalash
21-03-2012, 07:01
It's worked for D2lod, and almost every other game I've played. I don't see any issues.
D2 didn't have such system. In D2 you could find low tier item with best affixes. As an example, rare Breast Plate could roll same affixes as elite version Great Hauberk. Same with weapons, you can find rare Eth War Axe which will have insane stats, then you would upgrade it into Berserker Axe. I am talking about highest difficulty of course.
In D2 lower tier items were not limited in affix pool, in D3 they are.
raveharu
21-03-2012, 07:50
D2 didn't have such system. In D2 you could find low tier item with best affixes. As an example, rare Breast Plate could roll same affixes as elite version Great Hauberk. Same with weapons, you can find rare Eth War Axe which will have insane stats, then you would upgrade it into Berserker Axe. I am talking about highest difficulty of course.
In D2 lower tier items were not limited in affix pool, in D3 they are.
The elite armors can also roll better, so it's the same. You'll still end up using the highest tier anyway.
I find it hilarious people get "worried" over a game that hasn't even been released.
Kblavkalash
21-03-2012, 07:55
The elite armors can also roll better, so it's the same. You'll still end up using the highest tier anyway.
I find it hilarious people get "worried" over a game that hasn't even been released.
I just explained that in D2 normal armor can have same affixes as elite.. How Elite armors in D2 better than normal apart from basic defense?
HardRock
21-03-2012, 07:58
Those are pretty old and not updated.
Many unique items have been removed from the database, they are up for a revamp.
These aren't Legendary or Set items, instead they're sets of armor of a given tier. Basically normal, magic and rare items will look like this. Oh, and they're still up to date.
I'm still not sure how these "tiers" work. So like, if a tier 13 regular white item is called Onyx (Onyx plate, Onyx boots, etc), then a full Onyx get-up would look like that?
Exactly.
D2 didn't have such system. In D2 you could find low tier item with best affixes.
Right, in D3 you get the list of affixes that can spawn on an item by looking at the item's level, while in D2 affixes were chosen based on the monster's level that dropped the item or at least that's how I remember it, I could be wrong here.
Even if D3's item generator would work the same way you still wouldn't use lower tier armors in the endgame, because in D3 the armor's base stat, Armor, is actually the most useful DR stat you have, unlike Defense in D2.
Wildmoon
21-03-2012, 10:19
All of these armors look much better when you watch it from when you are playing.
marshmallow
21-03-2012, 10:21
The AllSpark has found its way to Sanctuary.
RazeBarb
21-03-2012, 12:16
Visit the Diablo 3 General threads on 4chan's /vg/ board.
A user uploaded screenshots for all armors in all colors + videos while the character stands on a rotating platform so you can see it from all angles.
Well if you can find ALL tiers in higher difficulties with best possible stats then it's fine. I mean higher level items will have a little bit higher base stats, like Armor or Damage (if weapon), but I can sacrifice a little of that to wear what I really like.
To take example from D2, you could make Enigma in Dusk Shroud (if you enjoy look of that armor) even though it had little bit less defense than Archon Plate.
Yes. But 1st - In d3 armor is SO much more valuable than defense, considering there's inferno too, because it's pure DR percentage, which is SO much better than defense, which worked as dodge to physical attacks and if I recall correctly, it works only for incoming melee attacks(Yes I know base defense multiplies and gives a ton more after % bonuses). And 2, the items won't have str/dex requirements, which pretty much forces you to use higher tier, unlike D2.
And DS is better statistically than AP, because it cuts you like 20 str which goes into vita anyway :). But yea, the bonuses aren't that big compared to D3 ones, and you had a wide variety of elite/exceptional/normal armor types, which differ from one another, depending on their defense and the requirements. Personally, the defense penalty for using a weaker armor wasn't that big for me in D2. I don't really like the system D3 will use. Hope they change some stuff, because currently it looks like wow, you just roll the top gear and have no choice whatsoever, but to go for it.
Amarules
21-03-2012, 13:42
Its poor implementation in all honesty. All they had to do was give all tiers equalised chances of rolling affixes across the board in inferno while maintaining the ordered progression in normal, nightmare and hell. This gives the sense of increasing power and not going back to rags while leveling as they wanted, but still allows people to wear tiers based on visual preference at endgame. In addition it stops everybody looking like clones @ 60 while 70% of items become totally redundant.
It sucks to think I can't wear the armor set I like because it is restricted to rolling affixes upto lvl 40 only.
HardRock
21-03-2012, 13:59
People who want to see some of these items in-game should also check out Risingred's awesome albums of them: http://diablo.incgamers.com/gallery/showgallery.php/ppuser/322757/username/risingred
raveharu
21-03-2012, 14:02
We know nothing at this point about any of the item affixes yet, this is soley based on D2's affixes, so don't jump to conclusions.
Also, all those images are based on an old client via private emulator, it is not updated and there might be changes.
Kblavkalash
21-03-2012, 14:15
We know nothing at this point about any of the item affixes yet, this is soley based on D2's affixes, so don't jump to conclusions.
Also, all those images are based on an old client via private emulator, it is not updated and there might be changes.
What do you want to know? Jay himself today confirmed that higher tier item = better possible affixes.
http://diablo.incgamers.com/gallery/data/659/Screenshot0083.jpg
http://diablo.incgamers.com/gallery/data/659/Screenshot012.jpg
http://diablo.incgamers.com/gallery/data/500/Barbf_doom2.jpg
Dear God... My eyes! :hang::banghead::rant: 'Looks better ingame', right... Maybe in the way that AIDS looks better than gangrene. I guess I'll only play female Barb and run around in bikinis then, pretending that I'm training for a fitness race by whacking monsters. :scratchchin:
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