View Full Version : Does Diablo 3 single player require Battlenet log on? Please tell me it's not true!!
WolfBear
23-09-2011, 05:27
I read somewhere that Diablo 3 requires players to log on to Battlenet (and stay logged on) even if they want to play single player. If this is true, then this game is an EPIC FAIL!!
Many people, such as myself, have internet connections with high latency which are NOT good for online gaming (other than flash-type games). Blizzard would be essentially alienating this entire audience if they require Diablo 3 single player to be played on Battlenet servers without any option for offline play.
So is this true about Diablo 3 single player mode requiring continuous Battlenet connection?
raveharu
23-09-2011, 05:32
Blizzard thinks about Pros > Cons
And to answer your question, yes it's true.
BellaStrega
23-09-2011, 05:41
Here's someone at Rock-Paper-Shotgun listing the cons as he sees them:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/09/22/how-diablo-iiis-drm-will-affect-you/
raveharu
23-09-2011, 05:47
Here's someone at Rock-Paper-Shotgun listing the cons as he sees them:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/09/22/how-diablo-iiis-drm-will-affect-you/
All his complaints stem mainly from unstable disconnections, so that doesn't count as it's beta as it's suppose to happen.
That was what Blizzard main reason of testing was for.
A minority and common problem for all online games, as compared to the cons if the game doesn't require BNET connection.
TheShaft
23-09-2011, 05:48
http://kotaku.com/5842875/if-a-train-is-traveling-80-mph-and-the-internet-is-at-1mbps-when-will-diablo-iii-crash
All his complaints stem mainly from unstable disconnections, so that doesn't count as it's beta as it's suppose to happen.
Incorrect. Please respond to this quote. Emphasis mine.
You can’t pause. In fact, in most ways, the game acts like an MMO. For instance, quit it, and you’re given the optional cooldown to have your player clear the server properly. But it’s not an MMO. It’s not even close to an MMO. So when I’m playing the single-player game, and I’m in the middle of a frenzied mob, and there’s a knock at the front door, there’s nothing I can do. As happened to me yesterday. Twice. On another occasion I was surprised by a phone call that led to my having to do some other things. I’d safely left my character in a cleared area, but long between checkpoints. When I came back to the PC, I’d been idle for too long and the game had logged me out.
He has very valid complaints.
Always online yes, so, Epic Fail.
Not having a pause is a valid complaint? That just sounds like someone that wants it to be exactly like D2 and when it looks a tiny bit like WoW they call D3 an mmo and complain...
I've played single player games before that didn't have a way to pause it, if you have to go afk and you're not in a safe spot you could end up dead. You either learn to deal with that or find another game that's not so hard for your easily distracted fragile ***.
raveharu
23-09-2011, 07:32
Not having a pause is a valid complaint? That just sounds like someone that wants it to be exactly like D2 and when it looks a tiny bit like WoW they call D3 an mmo and complain...
I've played single player games before that didn't have a way to pause it, if you have to go afk and you're not in a safe spot you could end up dead. You either learn to deal with that or find another game that's not so hard for your easily distracted fragile ***.
And that's exactly why I simply do not want to reply this thread anymore.
As if seeing reasons like "I can't play D3 at work anymore" isn't bad enough... I'll be more than happy if the whiners don't play the game.
No one is going to stop you from leaving, if all you can do is insulting people. Worse than useless. Go away.
someone is REALLY behind the curve...
I Will have a hard time to play D3 at work whit the onlineDRM system. I have a lots of downtimes and sometimes i can be sitting for hours just waiting for something to happend and then it's perfekt to have some games to play. Often its game like the HOMM series where it's easy to pause if/when something happenes. So D3 woulden't be the ideal game for me at work.
But i dont want them to gimp the game so everyone can get there hands on the sercret code they have hide in the server that keep's us safe from hackers just because i want to play the game casual some times. Cus overall the pros is way bigger then the cons when u start to think about it. Is aint it?
BellaStrega
23-09-2011, 09:18
All his complaints stem mainly from unstable disconnections, so that doesn't count as it's beta as it's suppose to happen.
That was what Blizzard main reason of testing was for.
A minority and common problem for all online games, as compared to the cons if the game doesn't require BNET connection.
His complaints include the inability to pause the game, being logged out after being idle too long, losing connection, and not being able to play the game anywhere you don't have a connection. Of all of these, losing connection is the most likely to be beta only - the rest have nothing to do with being a beta.
With Diablo II recently, I was losing connection to battle.net regularly and dumped out of my games on a daily basis. That was most certainly not beta.
That said, I don't personally mind it requiring being online all the time. I simply thought that the OP might like to read it.
I read somewhere that Diablo 3 requires players to log on to Battlenet (and stay logged on) even if they want to play single player. If this is true, then this game is an EPIC FAIL!!
Many people, such as myself, have internet connections with high latency which are NOT good for online gaming (other than flash-type games). Blizzard would be essentially alienating this entire audience if they require Diablo 3 single player to be played on Battlenet servers without any option for offline play.
So is this true about Diablo 3 single player mode requiring continuous Battlenet connection?
first time you have heard of diablo eh?
I read somewhere that Diablo 3 requires players to log on to Battlenet (and stay logged on) even if they want to play single player....
Many people, such as myself, have internet connections with high latency which are NOT good for online gaming ...
here's a vid of a guy playing from South Africa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax6cokwLDK8
the combat is very smooth
I don't think latency will be as big of a problem as people think
Incorrect. Please respond to this quote. Emphasis mine.
Yeah... game reacts execly like it did in Diablo 2 when you played on b.net (beside you have to wait to get log out). And D2 wasn't MMO either.
AlexanderBarin
23-09-2011, 13:08
And that's exactly why I simply do not want to reply this thread anymore.
As if seeing reasons like "I can't play D3 at work anymore" isn't bad enough... I'll be more than happy if the whiners don't play the game.
Agreed. All the entitlement they claim... If it's not X, it's Y. Best avoided altogether.
Yeah... game reacts execly like it did in Diablo 2 when you played on b.net (beside you have to wait to get log out). And D2 wasn't MMO either.
Which is fine if you want to play multiplayer. But many people want just single player. Don't care or don't have friends, etc. No reason to force these restrictions upon people playing SP.
As for lag... SC2 already has its Screen Freeze Art thread.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=126943
Grayson Carlyle
23-09-2011, 15:37
Just as a point of information, you don't get kicked for being idle for too long. He simply didn't notice that he was kicked because of a server-side issue/disconnect.
So his complaints are now: 1) Can't pause, 2) Can't play without a connection.
You couldn't pause Demon's Souls either but I didn't hear much complaining about it.
Godzillaz
23-09-2011, 15:52
This has already been done to death, but what the hell.
1) Not being able to pause the game isn't a point that's going to win you anything. Plenty of games operate in that exact same way and they're fine; it's not needed and won't be missed by most people.
2) Server side gaming prevents piracy and duping, and makes bots and client-side hacking more difficult. For myself, and the MAJORITY of gamers out there with adequate internet connections, this is 100% what I want. Blizzard wants this to be an online only game for a variety of good reasons. Sorry.
WolfBear
23-09-2011, 19:39
It is very unfortunate that after 11 years, Blizzard gives us a new Diablo game that is most likely only playable by those with low latency high-speed internet connections. This is very disappointing and will obviously make this game unplayable by a huge number of people. Last I read, approximately 14 million Americans cannot get any other high-speed internet connection in their areas other than satellite internet which has too high latency for online games (other than flash-type games). I have satellite internet myself (no other high-speed internet connections available in my area), and therefore I most likely won’t be able to play Diablo 3.
Oh well, I am just glad there are many other great Action RPGs out there for us to play (which actually have OFFLINE single player modes) such as Witcher 2, Skyrim, Divinity 2: TDKS, Risen, and Two Worlds 2.
ThulRasha
23-09-2011, 20:00
It is very unfortunate that after 11 years, Blizzard gives us a new Diablo game that is most likely only playable by those with low latency high-speed internet connections. This is very disappointing and will obviously make this game unplayable by a huge number of people. Last I read, approximately 14 million Americans cannot get any other high-speed internet connection in their areas other than satellite internet which has too high latency for online games (other than flash-type games). I have satellite internet myself (no other high-speed internet connections available in my area), and therefore I most likely won’t be able to play Diablo 3.
Oh well, I am just glad there are many other great action RPGs out there for us to play (which actually have OFFLINE single player modes) such as Witcher 2, Skyrim, Divinity 2: TDKS, Risen, and Two Worlds 2.
Don't be so quick. Diablo3 lets the client give you direct estimates on your actions. As long as you are within 300 ms latency, you should not see delay on your actions.
Most online games can be played on dial up. Internet connections shouldn't be an issue for most people. If it is, don't blame blizzard, it's just what you have to deal with because of your living situation.
TheDestructor
23-09-2011, 21:13
I think that just about everyone would like to be able to play Diablo offline whenever they wish, but people also have come to accept that the best way to prevent hacks/bots/duping, is to keep the game online where Blizzard can keep the exploitable files safe on their Fort Knoxx like servers. Essentially, it's a sacrifice for all of us, but many have come to agree that having a solid online experience is more important than being able to play Diablo 3 on a train.
Or at least Blizzard has. :p
Of course, if you don't agree with any of this, just don't buy the game, right?
Most online games can be played on dial up. Internet connections shouldn't be an issue for most people. If it is, don't blame blizzard, it's just what you have to deal with because of your living situation.
Don't be so quick to judge.
I work with several investors that live in West NC. These people are not what you would consider hurting. Yet they are unable to get reliable internet in their area period. They have even offered to pay to have fiber run up their street to no avail. So for some people it is move or not play D3. They will not be playing D3 and have reconciled themselves to that but faulting people for their "living situation" is a bit uncalled for.
I think Blizz has realized that it's 2011 and "most" people have decent internet. There will always be areas or individuals who do not. But of those who have computers able to play D3 I am willing to bet that many of them have decent enough internet to play it.
Plus it's a better, easier, cheaper way for them to control gameplay.
I am fine with online play but I also have a super fast connection with next to no latency. It is like owning a Ferrari and the blizzard highway has no speed limit of course it is easy for me to say hell yeah. But I definitely feel for those who are in certain situations just for where they choose to live.
That being said when I bought the house I am in now my question to the realtor was what sort of internet is available. Apparently I was the 1st to ask.
I have more of an issue with government sanctioned monopolies in this country screwing over people royally than I do with Blizzard's DRM.
Don't be so quick to judge.
I work with several investors that live in West NC. These people are not what you would consider hurting. Yet they are unable to get reliable internet in their area period. They have even offered to pay to have fiber run up their street to no avail. So for some people it is move or not play D3. They will not be playing D3 and have reconciled themselves to that but faulting people for their "living situation" is a bit uncalled for.
I'd say the game is probably playable with satellite internet, so even for these people, it might not be impossible. Now for some people it will be, and I still say it's not blizzard's fault. I'm not judging anyone, just saying that life isn't fair. If there was an offline mode, more people could play it, and I wish they could, but always-online is a reality and provides benefits that I'm happy for.
Wolfpaq777
24-09-2011, 00:39
No reason to force these restrictions upon people playing SP.
Actually there are several very compelling reasons to restrict the usage of single player.
But yeah, like everyone's saying, this is a 2 month old topic, and Bliz is showing no signs of relenting so there's no real point in getting into it at the moment.
Synchrotron
24-09-2011, 00:45
I'll see a lot of QQ when Blizzard start kicking people 2 seconds after they minimize their game, just like in WoW.
ABarbarian
24-09-2011, 00:51
I read somewhere that Diablo 3 requires players to log on to Battlenet (and stay logged on) even if they want to play single player. If this is true, then this game is an EPIC FAIL!!
Many people, such as myself, have internet connections with high latency which are NOT good for online gaming (other than flash-type games). Blizzard would be essentially alienating this entire audience if they require Diablo 3 single player to be played on Battlenet servers without any option for offline play.
So is this true about Diablo 3 single player mode requiring continuous Battlenet connection?
Don't worry, this game is "Diablo 3" in name only.
ABarbarian
24-09-2011, 00:52
Not having a pause is a valid complaint? That just sounds like someone that wants it to be exactly like D2 and when it looks a tiny bit like WoW they call D3 an mmo and complain...
I've played single player games before that didn't have a way to pause it, if you have to go afk and you're not in a safe spot you could end up dead. You either learn to deal with that or find another game that's not so hard for your easily distracted fragile ***.
Some people have a life - wives, girlfriends, and children that need to be attended to. This might be shocking and hard to grasp to all of the greasy-Blizzard-T-Shirt-wearing-basement-dwellers out there. But I assure you. These people do exist in the outside world.
I don't know why this makes me rage more than anything else that's been said about D3 so far... At first, it was a definite deal breaker for me. The only game I own that's online only is HoN, and the reasons why that has to be online only is obvious. I decided to give this game a break though and buy it anyway. Probably from sheer nostalgia. I just don't like the whole online only thing AT ALL though. The benefits seem so weak to me, or like they're not even benefits at all, but detriments.
No mods, EVER? Really? How is this a benefit? How is it a good thing that only Blizzard can provide content? They're good at making games, yes, but they can't be everything to everyone. If I wanted to mod the game to make the DH a Hydralisk, so what? How is preventing this a benefit?
No dupes, EVER? Really? How is this a benefit? What's so bad about someone using dupes in single player? I don't recall anyone ever crying back in the days of the up down, up down, left right, left right, B A B A Start and the likes 'hax'... Blizzard has said themselves that this game is cooperative rather than competitive, so why are dupes such a deal breaker, even if they did somehow get into the online?
I dunna... But it seems to me like the SC2 trilogy will probably be the last games where Blizzard gives two $hits about single player games. After all the success with WoW, they think (ok, maybe they know) that Multiplayer games are more popular and profitable than single player ones, so they want to cater to that larger audience, and feel that any game is made better by forcing it into multiplayer. It just seems like they're always going out of their trying to convince everyone that everything's better if multiplayer and online only, and a lot of people don't look like they even needed any convincing.
I'd say the game is probably playable with satellite internet, so even for these people, it might not be impossible.
The latency of satellite internet is atrocious you are talking 1400ms++ latency and many times much worse depending on weather.
As you can see from my other posts I have no issue with being online only play just pointing out that many times there is very little someone can do in order to change their predicament.
N2OInferno
24-09-2011, 04:30
Some people have a life - wives, girlfriends, and children that need to be attended to. This might be shocking and hard to grasp to all of the greasy-Blizzard-T-Shirt-wearing-basement-dwellers out there. But I assure you. These people do exist in the outside world.
If my wife or child needs attention that cannot wait one minute, they're priority. It's just a game, and if you die or disappoint people when you leave suddenly because real life got in the way, you'll/they'll get over it eventually.
No mods is a benefit. Not for you, but for Activision Blizzard. This way they have complete control over your playing experience. When you play new content, ActiBlizzard is getting a cut. Toll booths, be the gatekeeper WOW style.
How is dupes/hacks/cheats an issue in Single Player ? You don't annoy any person with your cheats. You are only cheating yourself. See, I don't want to be able to cheat, I just don't want to suffer the same restrictions (like no pause) just because some people cheat and Blizzard pretends to be teaching a moral lesson. If there was a way to create SP-only characters, which can't ever join a MP game, then they wouldn't bring duped items online.
More likely that cheated/duped items would ... compete with real money auction house. People with dupes are not likely to buy items.
I wish there was Nox 2 made by the original team :(. I'll have to settle for TL2, and it's a bit too similar to D3 for my taste. Nox had better multiplayer and wasn't a fireworks show.
Neck Romancer
18-10-2011, 09:08
Blizzard wants this to be an online only game for a variety of good reasons. Sorry.
Sorry, but if they wanted it to be an online only game, there would be no so-called "singler player" mode.
Having to connect to the internet to play a game by yourself is absurd. I challenge anyone to prove me otherwise.
ThulRasha
18-10-2011, 10:10
Sorry, but if they wanted it to be an online only game, there would be no so-called "singler player" mode.
Having to connect to the internet to play a game by yourself is absurd. I challenge anyone to prove me otherwise.
What is this so-called "single player" mode you are talking about? It's not an option available in any Diablo3 menu.
http://diablo.incgamers.com/gallery/showfull.php?photo=5923
Neck Romancer
19-10-2011, 13:53
Ah right, foolish me.
Raging_Zealot
25-10-2011, 02:43
SC2 has an "offline mode" available if you are unable to connect to b.net, which enables the single player campaign (obviously with no achievements). Are we certain such an option will not be available in the released copy of D3?
ThulRasha
25-10-2011, 14:08
SC2 has an "offline mode" available if you are unable to connect to b.net, which enables the single player campaign (obviously with no achievements). Are we certain such an option will not be available in the released copy of D3?
Yes, 100% certain.
Earlier in development there were plans for this, but it is not sure how much of that is actually available in the client. Probably not much, or else the server emulator people would have found it already.
jamesisbest
25-10-2011, 22:13
The days of not connecting to Battle.net are over. Every game from Blizzard will require this from now on. The main reason is to prevent piracy which will hurt sales (despite what piraters may claim). Also their new Battle.net has a lot of features that integrates their games with the service making it hard to separate games from it. Blizzard also wants to try to reduce cheating/hacking/exploits this way as well.
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