Need expert advice about this !! [Archive]

GhostRidah

15-08-2011, 17:02

Hello guys,

What do you think about this video card for gaming ?

asus pcie gf engtx560 DCii OC 1024M Box , is it very very good or it's so so ?

The reason of why i'm asking this is because I asked someone to prepare a computer for me, so he gave me the list of items that he will be using to build my computer and I saw that video card.

Thanking you in advance for your time.

coolpants

15-08-2011, 17:08

I thought his card had GDDR5? :scratchchin:

ShadoutMapes

15-08-2011, 17:13

Asus is perfectly fine for video cards. Generally the brand doesn't matter much for those.
And its a fine card, I doubt it will have any issues running Diablo 3 on max settings - it might get problems with graphics-intensive FPS games, but that is about it.

One question though, what's the size of your monitor?

treader

15-08-2011, 17:17

It is a good card and will max out D3 if thats what you plan to do with it.

The downside I read about this card is it is a tad expensive then other offerings from MSI and EVGA. Another noteworthy worry is that the dual fan is kinda noisy when under full load.

Nizaris

15-08-2011, 17:31

I would recommend the 560Ti, myself. It's affordable-ish and the Windforce technology isn't all that loud under load.

The main thing you want for cards like this is air-flow with your case. If you don't have air-flow, any card like this will overheat even if you're using dual-fans.

For example, I had a terrible case when I had my 8800 gts - I probably ran at around 56 degrees C on average under moderate load. I change my case and it now idles at around 36C and 50C under full load.

ShadoutMapes

15-08-2011, 17:36

GhostRidah

15-08-2011, 17:52

my screen is 22 inches (1920x900 max resolution).

The price of that video card is like 211$; any better option than this video card for lower or similar price value?

MY goal is to play SC2 or Diablo 3 with max graphics.

ShadoutMapes

15-08-2011, 17:52

56 degrees is perfrect for idling for some cards. His is one of them.
One should never sacrifice performance it is easy to change out the fans or add water cooling to a gpu.
Wasn't that what I said too :D

Nizaris

15-08-2011, 17:53

56 degrees under full load is still perfectly fine though. 80 is fine as well. More than that and we start to approach the 'not fine' area.

560Ti would be a reasonable upgrade if you want more power.

As others have pointed out, you also have to decide if you can live with a noisy computer or not. That is nearly the main-aspect of choosing video card these days imo. For those that care about the noise at least.

For the card, perhaps. But my mobo at the time couldn't handle that kind of heat - especially since my gfx were overclocked a modest amount. Mind you, the case I was using was a standard HP case that could barely fit a pinky in to move parts around. (I also had a sneaking suspicion that the computer temp was lying - it was probably more like 70C case temp)

It all comes back to the same thing. If you want more power with minimal degradation, make sure you combat high temperatures. Your hardware will last longer, your computer will have less malfunctions, and you'll not need to feel like you need to upgrade.

Perhaps it's an illusion, but whenever my computer starts acting up it was the beginning of my desire to get better hardware. (I fall into consumerist patterns on occasion too, don't judge me)

ShadoutMapes

15-08-2011, 17:59

My case has 3 fans in the front (radiator in back, return tank outside of case) 3 in the mid section behind the 3 front fans. 3 in the back of the case and 1 on the top and 1 on the side. all are 120 or bigger.

Can someone say over 9000?!

Yes this is the type of cooling that will insure long life especially at 5.5 ghz

I can say loud? Probably?

ShadoutMapes

15-08-2011, 18:03

For the card, perhaps. But my mobo at the time couldn't handle that kind of heat - especially since my gfx were overclocked a modest amount. Mind you, the case I was using was a standard HP case that could barely fit a pinky in to move parts around. (I also had a sneaking suspicion that the computer temp was lying - it was probably more like 70C case temp)
Yeah that is true. Depending on the video cards fan design, it shouldn't affect the motherboard that much in a decent case.
A good and ventilated case is very much worth the money though!

GhostRidah

15-08-2011, 18:13

What kind of case do I need specially if im getting that video card.

Any exemple ?

Thanks -

Nizaris

15-08-2011, 18:16

NZXT are probably your best bet for style + utility. I have the Phantom which, I believe, is rated #1 currently. Mind you, it's a GIANT case, though its utility is nigh unparalleled.

You'll want to do your research - watch some installation videos and read reviews on cases that pique your interest.

Check out Newegg: Link (http://www.newegg.com/Store/Category.aspx?Category=9&name=Computer-Cases)

They have a wide selection of cases and a lot of them have attached videos so you can see what it looks like, how everything fits, and there is commentary about the pros and cons.

GhostRidah

15-08-2011, 18:21

how many fans are installed with the case antec 900? If none, how many do I need to make sure everything is fine?

GhostRidah

15-08-2011, 18:47

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021

If im getting that case, will I have any overheat problem ?

I will have 8gigs DDR3
I5 2400
GTX560 1024M

and more ...

ShadoutMapes

15-08-2011, 19:04

Antec 900 is a decent case without being among the very best.
4 fans is plenty, its mostly their placement and size that matters and it should be fine in anything Antec makes.

GhostRidah

15-08-2011, 19:07

Antec 900 is a decent case without being among the very best.
4 fans is plenty, its mostly their placement and size that matters and it should be fine in anything Antec makes.

Alright, so i'm almost 100% sure to have no overheat problem ?

Is there any other cases that you could suggest that are not over expensive ?

Nizaris

15-08-2011, 19:13

@GhostRidah - My friend has that case and doesn't have problems.

GhostRidah

15-08-2011, 19:20

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021

There is 4 fans in total, is it annoying ? it must be very noisy isnt?

GhostRidah

15-08-2011, 20:43

1 more thing,

If my video card is : GTX 560 1024M and my screen is this one : http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4642593&pagenumber=1&RSort=1&csid=ITD&recordsPerPage=5&body=#ReviewStart

Will I be able to plug my screen ?

ShadoutMapes

15-08-2011, 20:43

You shouldn't have any problems at all, and while there are better cases, but unless you care a hell of a lot about either noise or temperatures, its probably not worth the money.

The 4 fans in the Antec case can change speed manually with some switches, so noise should be quite low. The fans can be replaced to reduce it more, but it would be pointless unless you replaced the CPU and video card fans as well, as they will by far be the loudest things in the system otherwise.

All video cards got DVI these days and will work just fine with that screen.

GhostRidah

15-08-2011, 20:48

Thank you so much sir :)

What is the difference by using VGA instead of DVI ? because the screen has been sent with dvi cable and vga cable.

ShadoutMapes

15-08-2011, 22:08

DVI is better. Should always be used.

GhostRidah

16-08-2011, 00:10

1 more question :

How is the feeling of playing video games on a 21.5'' screen ? Do you feel that everything seems to be smaller specially when it's 1920x900 ? Do you feel that it's too big and it's not very pleasant for playing ?

The reason of why i'm asking it, is because i've never tried playing on a bigger screen than 15.6 inches so it's going to be totally new for me.

Tilitoon

16-08-2011, 01:00

treader

16-08-2011, 05:09

1 more question :

How is the feeling of playing video games on a 21.5'' screen ? Do you feel that everything seems to be smaller specially when it's 1920x900 ? Do you feel that it's too big and it's not very pleasant for playing ?

First your max resolution is not 1920*900 but is 1920*1080.

Secondly, you will want your screen to be as big as you can as it adds to the immersion just like a bigger tv set would. So long as your card can handle the frames which in your case a GTX560 will do fine. It cant hurt to go for higher range cards though if you have the dough as the 560 is considered mid range.

ShadoutMapes

16-08-2011, 17:34

With that resolution getting a better card might not be a bad idea. It can handle Diablo 3 I'm sure, but if you then plan to play something else down the road it might struggle a bit.

Shadowtwin

16-08-2011, 19:07

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021

There is 4 fans in total, is it annoying ? it must be very noisy isnt?

I've always wondered about the fans being noisy bit. My current case has 6 120mm fans (1 intake front, 1 exhaust rear, 2 intake side, 2 exhaust top) plus 2 much smaller fans on my power supply, and I literally can't hear them operating. I can hear the hard drive spinning over the sound of the fans. Are people buying fans with attached whistles or Didgeridoos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didgeridoo) or something? When one of the fans malfunctions it can get obnoxiously loud, but since a fan costs around 5 bucks once it gets loud it gets replaced -much like wives.

GhostRidah

16-08-2011, 19:12

Hey guys,

Which screen would you choose between all of them and why ?

1) http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=934219&CatId=2775

2) http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6052507&pagenumber=2&RSort=1&csid=ITD&recordsPerPage=5&body=#ReviewStart

3) http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6818950&pagenumber=3&RSort=1&csid=ITD&recordsPerPage=5&body=#ReviewStart

4) http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4642593&pagenumber=1&RSort=1&csid=ITD&recordsPerPage=5&body=#ReviewStart

5) http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7095022&CatId=2775

6) http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7095024&CatId=2775

7) http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=752142&CatId=4420

So my budget is pretty around the price that you can see, so which one could be a good choice?

Thanking you in advance guys for taking your time of helping me :-)

ShadoutMapes

17-08-2011, 00:12

I've always wondered about the fans being noisy bit. My current case has 6 120mm fans (1 intake front, 1 exhaust rear, 2 intake side, 2 exhaust top) plus 2 much smaller fans on my power supply, and I literally can't hear them operating. I can hear the hard drive spinning over the sound of the fans. Are people buying fans with attached whistles or Didgeridoos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didgeridoo) or something? When one of the fans malfunctions it can get obnoxiously loud, but since a fan costs around 5 bucks once it gets loud it gets replaced -much like wives.

It could depend on many things.
Do you know how fast your fans are running? If they run slow enough they can be nearly silent. Normally most 120mm fans wont run so slow as standard though.
Maybe you got a noisy hard drive, they exist.
Maybe you just don't think they are loud, while others would. There are huge differences in how people perceive noise. Which is also influenced by how loud their surroundings are
For example, I can hardly hear my PC during day/evening, but much easier at night, only because of the slightly less background noise from outside.

GhostRidah

17-08-2011, 00:28

If im using a video card (price around 150-220$) ... if im using a 22 inches screen, will I be able to run Sc2 or Diablo 3 with maximum resolution ?

Screen is 22 inches max resolution 1920X1080 ... and video card that im looking is GTX 560 1024M or maybe lower but just be around that card overall

ShadoutMapes

17-08-2011, 07:01

Wouldn't go lower than 560. And you should be able to.

Zarniwoop

17-08-2011, 13:21

This isn't the last place on earth you want to go for hardware advice, but its in the vicinity.

Tilitoon

19-08-2011, 14:53

Personally I would go for the TI version of the Geforce GTX 560 if your budget allows it because it has a slightly better performance/cost ratio, and you would be able to play other great titles that are a bit more demanding, like Battlefield (if you are into shooters ?). In any case, you'll be fine with the GTX 560 (non TI), you would be able to play SC2 and Diablo 3 with full details in 1920X1080 (or really close, depending if you use AA and AF).