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Nightfish
04-04-2011, 18:39
I'll be hosting HC MP games from time to time and this is where I'll post the details about 'em. Also my horrible deaths.
Version: 1.13 + RWM
Location:: Act 1 Hell
NF's Char:Level 75 Necromancer
Game up? No
Hosting
I'll be hosting via Hamachi, because that worked and everything else did not. Just tested it with Dashy and he said the lag was fine too, even across the pond. Details below, I'll update the "Game up?" when I host which will usually be in the evenings of europe's time zone.
Dave raised a good point about handing out the hamachi details via PMs so I'll do it like that from now on. Drop me a PM when the game's up and I'll hit you up with the details. They'll stay the same then unless there's a reason to change them.
Twinking
I think we've agreed by now that we're going to twink and that we're not overly concerned about me having used the FE Mod in the past. So I'll use my own stuff and I can probably provide items (within reason) for others that want to join and do not want to get cooties all over their own gear.
Next Session
Date: 14.04
Time: 20:00 CET
For reference, CET can be found here: CET (http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/europe/european-union/central-european-time/)
First Session Summary:
Lots of nice people showed up once Greebo took over hosting duties. We got to Act 2 Normal with barely any incident. Everyone almost died at Rakanishu, but beyond that it was smooth sailing. I gotta figure out some way to host, or maybe not as I lagged quite a bit with Greebo and if he lags as much on my host that's gonna be fatal for the pally. Much more so than for my laid-back-o-mancer. (Damn, that should have been the build name).
Second Session Summary:
The mighty Greebo and the decrepit Nightfish bravely fought their way through the desert and halfway through the jungle as well. The journey was uneventful, except for the times when we nearly died. Note to self: Do not take a close look at beetles while Greebo is wailing on them. Sparkly things pop out and they hurt the old man. The Summoner did a surprising amount of cold damage to Greebo's paladin and that nearly did him in. Halfway through act 2 we notice "dude, we are untwinked, we might wanna pick up an item or two?" "right on, dude!". And we still barely did it. I guess some people are made for playing untwinked and other people are Greebo and me. Thankfully, Mr Necro doesn't need much. Halfway through the great marsh he stopped running around barefoot, though. Either way, we made it to the lower kurast waypoint. Excelsior!
Third Session Summary:
Well, what can I say,
Diablo Lightning: 1
Necro with 0 Resists and nearly max Vit: 0
That's the final score for my first MP HC char. Being untwinked plus not picking up loot not smart is.
Fourth Session Summary:
Picked up Arkardo and DaveW for the last bits of Act 3 and all of Act 4 since HotStuff still needed to kill BigD. I'll not mention how someone confidently declared "I got Iratha's, I'll tank him!" and then very nearly got fried like I did yesterday. Either way, we made it "safely" to act 5 and unless something comes up I'll host again tomorrow evening.
Fifth Session Summary:
Twinking definetly bumped our speed up to 11. Aside from catching everyone up to where we were, we breezed through late normal and early nightmare. No NDEs that I noticed. Reckless playing is probably gonna kill someone at some point tho.
Sixth Session Summary:
Super-Greebo and his Amp Damage merc made it safely to Act 1 Hell.
Seventh Session Summary:
Delved a little bit into Act 1 Hell. All we have to show for our troubles are Gore Riders and an IK Soul Cage. Neato. Nobody died. :)
Are you sure that the IP is right and everything else is configured right?
As of 2 weeks ago, my comp was config'ed just fine for hosting and visiting, but I can't join your game... I'm getting "Cannot connect to server"
Can't join either. Maybe we should do that Hamachi thing?
Nightfish
04-04-2011, 18:47
Well, I got the IP from http://www.whatsmyip.org/ as D2 only gives me my local IP...
I have hosted successfully in the past but obviously I am doing something wrong right now. I know I didn't start a single-player game this time around because I can't actually pause right now. (Yes, I did that in the past -.- trying to host and went SP... go figure...)
Do you have a different OS nowadays? Things have changed for LAN from what I've heard.
I could host for now, if you'd be fine with that.
Other than that, my short checklist:
- Port forwarding: your router has to forward ports 4000, 6112-6119 to your computer, both UDP and TCP.
- Windows firewall: above ports have to be open, both UDP and TCP.
That always helped me...
Nightfish
04-04-2011, 18:51
I've reinstalled windows XP recently, but it's all updated and stuff. Do I need to set some special exceptions for d2 to MP? I am multiplayering other games just fine.
Gonna check out the ports Greebo mentioned. ... Way to kickstart this off, NF -.-
A quick check would be to turn off Windows Firewall completely for a moment and see what happens. If we can connect, then you know where the problem lies. If we can't, you know it's something more tricky than Microsoft bugging you yet again.
Nightfish
04-04-2011, 18:57
Good point. Firewall off atm. (That's a good idea, right?)
Still can't join. Well, brb, gotta take a shower and stuff. ^^
Nightfish
04-04-2011, 19:02
Okay, I'm gonna go see if it's the router, if not I'd appreciate Greebo hosting :D
I couldn't join either. In that case, there's something more going on. Since you CAN mulitplay other games, you do have an external IP, and the most likely cause is that your router doesn't forward the ports I mentioned to your laptop/PC/whatever.
http://portforward.com/ is a decent resource for finding out how to forward a port with your router. Basically if you forward the ports I listed in both UDP and TCP, you should be fine. If it's not that, it's beyond the scope of my knowledge, sorry.
Nightfish
04-04-2011, 19:09
Yea, there's gotta be something wrong there as the routerconfig is unresponsive. Which is silly as the router is obviously working. Otherwise I wouldn't be typing this right now. -.-
If you're connecting through wireless, that might be the problem. Some routers are configured to only give access to control panel over the wire (by default), which makes sense if you think about it. Be sure to try both 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.1.1. OK, that's all I've got.
Nightfish
04-04-2011, 19:17
Nah, I'm not wireless. Everything is just the way it was when I set the damn router up a few weeks ago. It configured just fine back then... But now? Nuh uh.
Anyway, would you like to host so you can watch me die today? :badteeth:
I thought you'd never ask... ;)
*HC* MP up at *** EDITED OUT ***
Nightfish
04-04-2011, 19:20
I thought you'd never ask... ;)
I had already asked once before ;)
Thx Greebo. Hope this kickstarts some serious HC MP around here. Props to NF, NatNit and Arkado as well. Laters.
Yeah, thanks for hosting, Greeb! I probably won't be able to play tomorrow until 22:00 at the earliest, probably not at all. You just go ahead without me. Don't worry about me... *sobs*
Related since I want to play again in this thing (and maybe host).
Host check: xx.xx.xxx.xxx
Edit: Thanks for the game, guys. :) I haven't played Diablo multiplayer in a great many years, and this was a blast. Also, I just checked, and am also able to host, so feel free to poke me if you are desperately seeking a host.
Cool! Hopefully NF can host tomorrow (or whenever). It's his adventure, not mine ;) I expect short life on my part.
My laptop seems to be in a bad state, running slow and not handling hosting duties too well. Hence the ping spikes, I think. Sorry about that and thanks for coming evry1, though I was only a substitute host.
Nightfish
04-04-2011, 21:56
There's no guarantee my hosting will be better than yours ;) At least you got yours to work, and for my necro it's totally fine, really. I can't even convince my router to let me configure stuff. Actually the damn thing refuses to acknowledge my existence altogether.
Fantastic. I`ve just restarted in HC myself (kicking NM Mephs behind for items) and will probably join you guys from time to time. Unfortunately work is crazy at the moment, so play time is very limited, but I wanted to give you guys props for doing this.
Hopefully more people will get on the train.
I'll try to jump in. I just worry that my time zone will prohibit me, but we'll see. :)
Nightfish
05-04-2011, 06:49
Hopefully more people will get on the train.
Your avatar makes this comment sound *a lot* different. :badteeth:
In other news, I'm still working on my hosting problems. I'm trying hamachi at the moment and it would be le awesome if someone could help me test that.
Nightfish
05-04-2011, 08:30
Hamachi seems to work fine. I've sent the details to the people who were here the last time (I think I got you all, if I didn't drop me a PM. Might have overlooked one, esp the ones with the char names different from the hero name).
Nightfish
05-04-2011, 15:13
Game down, the mighty Paladin and the mobile amp damage provider got to the lower kurast waypoints with no incidents besides the NDEs that we had. Greebo learned that the summoner's cold blast is ouchies and Nightfish learned that taking a close look at the beetles Greebo is wacking is not ze smart idea. Derp derp... Also, fire is hot (little shaman dudes in act 3 still hurt as much as ever).
Nightfish
06-04-2011, 08:45
Tentatively scheduling next session for tonight at 20:00 CET, which is in 9:15 from the time I post this.
We're at act 3, lower kurast at the moment. Around level 25-ish. As always, if you want to join us and don't have the hamachi details, drop me a PM.
I'd love to join so I'll drop you a PM, I'm just about to kill Andariel though. I'll try and smash my way to where you guys are before tonight, but eugh, probably won't make it :coffee:
I'd love to join so I'll drop you a PM, I'm just about to kill Andariel though. I'll try and smash my way to where you guys are before tonight, but eugh, probably won't make it :coffee:
Neither do I, only at the start of Act 2, and I probably won't have time to do anything about it. *sobs*
Nightfish
06-04-2011, 14:47
Neither do I, only at the start of Act 2, and I probably won't have time to do anything about it. *sobs*
I'm pretty sure nobody will mind if we catch up the people that got left behind. I know my necro loves act2 so much that he can't wait to go through it again. Oh maggot lair and arcane sanctuary, I love thee so... Plus, it's not like I was trying to set a new record for the fastest guardians evar. ... Yet.
Yep, I'm planning to be there, and I could do with some levels to equip Cleglaw's sword. Act2 redo sounds perfectly fine to me.
Nightfish
06-04-2011, 15:06
See, no one get's left behind .... not until we had a chance to loot his corpse... :badteeth: ...
martinkingss
06-04-2011, 15:25
Too bad you already started this, would love to play with a legend otherwise. Next time!
Kings, depending on your character/level... We have a few hours, I'm happy to take you through Act 1 and get you levelled as much as possible ready for Act 2. If you don't feel it removes the point of it ;)
Nightfish
06-04-2011, 16:36
Well, we're only mid act 3 atm. You could either catch up until we can carry you the rest of the way or you could join when we catch up to one of your chars that you don't mind losing in MP ;)
Nightfish
06-04-2011, 18:07
Game's up. Waiting until everyone who said they'd come shows up and then we be rollin'
Thx NF, Im gonna roll with a WW barb: max WW/FI/BO/Mastery a good tank with party support. No notable gear as yet. Keep us posted on the next run. Cheers Greebo, and Virgait. Made the DW WP Greebo, but haven't rescued Cain yet.
Nightfish
06-04-2011, 21:22
Well, the good news is that martin can now join in if he still wants to. :D
As I already said in game, we probably gotta think our approach through a little better. Certainly, my death was pure carelessness, I'll be the first to admit that. My necro had no good reason not to be moving constantly which would have been more than enough to surive what killed me. Still, sooner or later our lack of gear woulda bitten us in the rear end. To be honest, I didn't expect to even last as long as I did after 3 (?) years of not playing D2 and even longer of not playing untwinked. So I guess I'm pretty confident that with some practice I should be fine. Depends how well that works out for the frontline personel who have to deal with lag on top of being untwinked...
Now, at the moment it seems to me that Greebo, DaveW, Arkarkdo and Virgait tend to be available in CET evenings so if you guys want to make this a regular thing once or twice a week we can try to do that. 5 people might be pushing it but I guess we could always try to figure out ways to catch people up that miss one session and skip session when not everyone is available once/if we get to hell. Personally I'm in no rush to get through the game so I'd be fine with that.
The other thing we need to work out is gear. It's pretty obvious that MP is more dangerous than SP. Even if I host, the game sometimes makes weird little spurts and I can only imagine what it's like if you don't host. So, having no resistances and life will only get us so far.
That means that either we gotta start playing untwinked like it matters, or start twinking. As I've already mentioned to some, and as some will remember I've used non-FAM in the past, namely the FE Mod in 1.10. As such, all my gear should be considered tainted, with all of the obvious implications. I don't care to rehash the debate of whether or not using the FE Mod is justifiable or not, I'm just putting this forth as a fact.
Personally, I - obviously - have no problem with my gear otherwise I wouldn't be using it. But I can accept that this is not true for others.
I guess what I'm saying is, if we're going to be serious about having a more or less steady HC group we gotta figure out a way to give us a decent shot at beating the game. When I first posted this thread I honestly didn't expect more than one guy to actually show up and I sorta expected someone who'd have a huge stash of HC items he'd draw on or someone who's a big fan of untwinked play. That's one reason why I went with a necro, again, because he'd be fine with either. Twink me 2 perfect diamonds and 2 ort and 2 ral and I'm good for hell.
So yea... I guess everybody should think about how he'd like things done for a bit and chime in. How regularily do you think you can / want to join in? What time is good for you? (let's use CET so we have the same baseline). What's your stance on twinking? etc.
As far as builds go, I think everyone should just pick one he enjoys. I'll stick with my necro and as long as he survives crowd control should be good enough so the others don't need to worry too much.
Now, at the moment it seems to me that Greebo, DaveW, Arkarkdo and Virgait tend to be available in CET evenings so if you guys want to make this a regular thing once or twice a week we can try to do that.
I can play pretty much any CET time as long as I know in advance.
The other thing we need to work out is gear. It's pretty obvious that MP is more dangerous than SP. Even if I host, the game sometimes makes weird little spurts and I can only imagine what it's like if you don't host. So, having no resistances and life will only get us so far.
If we could somehow have a centralised stash or if some1 keeps all our stuff, that could help. Knowing each other's builds wud help out there too.
That means that either we gotta start playing untwinked like it matters, or start twinking. As I've already mentioned to some, and as some will remember I've used non-FAM in the past, namely the FE Mod in 1.10. As such, all my gear should be considered tainted, with all of the obvious implications. I don't care to rehash the debate of whether or not using the FE Mod is justifiable or not, I'm just putting this forth as a fact.
I'm good either way. I'd prefer untwinked and that would certainly deal with the FE_mod but if people wanna twink, I'm down too. ATMA wud allow us to isolate any twinking gear tainted with FE_mod anyways, if people are concerned about their trade or MP status.
Looking forward to hearing from others.
@NightFish: sorry to hear about your loss! Didn't expect that to happen. I'll probably be available tonight again to help you boost through the first acts again; my Enchantress should be of great help for that.
I'm still debating with myself with my build; I was thinking of making it some kind of Voice of Reason/Rift/Vengeance build, but the only one that's feasonable untwinked would be VoR. I wouldn't mind making a bow variant, though, especially considering the lag and all.
As for twinking, I'd certainly be willing to hand out some gear to some peeps if it helps. Personally, I don't think the FE mod is a big deal, but I'm not sure whether I like having to declare that for my trades. If giving away some stuff that I have plenty of anyway helps with that, I'm certainly willing to do that. I don't care whether it is returned or not.
As for times, I'm usually around in the evenings, but sometimes a bit later than other times. Occasionally I'll have some time in the late afternoon, and in the weekends I'll be available at various times (no real structure there ^^).
Nightfish
07-04-2011, 07:45
As for twinking, I'd certainly be willing to hand out some gear to some peeps if it helps. Personally, I don't think the FE mod is a big deal, but I'm not sure whether I like having to declare that for my trades. If giving away some stuff that I have plenty of anyway helps with that, I'm certainly willing to do that. I don't care whether it is returned or not.
Well, yea, you'd have to keep stashes and characters separate. If we do want to twink I can probably supply everyone with radioactive gear of reasonable strength so no one would have to "taint" his pure items by association. No full TC87 outfits or anything, but I do have enough that I should be able to outfit a squad and not mourn the losses should they happen.
ATMA wud allow us to isolate any twinking gear tainted with FE_mod anyways, if people are concerned about their trade or MP status.
I'm not even sure how much of an issue this really is. It doesn't seem like there was much HC MP going on before us anyway. I don't know how many HCers trade, as near as I remember they tended not to trade much. So yea... at the end of the day, it might not be an issue at all, but it still bears mentioning. People differ in how badly they think the FE Mod taints you, too. Ranges from "leper, outcast, unclean!" to "Zomg dude, chill. I thought you were using some real hax, not this thing. Who gives a ****?".
As far as "Untwinked" goes, we are already tainted by twinking, seeing as Virgait had some stuff twinked on. Nothing wrong with that, I'm just saying that we can't exactly call ourselves "PURE!" anymore anyway.
If you guys want to do the untwinked thing, that's more than fine. I just don't think a Pally is a very good choice on that one, unless I'm purely a walking stack of auras. I didn't exactly have a "plan" for the whole thing, I expected to die by the time we reached Council at the latest. Still can't believe I didn't die to Big D.
It's about having fun, so I say let's twink at least a bit. That's my thoughts anyway.
NF: you need to close all other programs. And play windowed (which you probably do, but just saying). The delays you were getting are from not enough CPU/memory at the local machine, believe it or not. Skellies are notorious for causing lag in general in MP games. But that didn't happen for me. It seems like your computer has biggest issues with it all.
Arkardo: As a melee character I'd appreciate any gear you can lend. I'll permit corpse looting and if I do manage not to die, I fully intend to give it all back. So hopefully if you have like a 'Spirit' shield for me, or a decent weapon, who knows maybe even 'Oath' eventually, perhaps even you found a HoZ, any of that would help a lot, and barring the case of all of us dying, you should get it all back no matter what. If you'd feel comfortable lending my such items, ofc.
I'm also happy to donate any finds you'd want at the end of this. Like we have a Pelta Lunata, which can be yours as far as I'm concerned, if you don't have one. To me something like: "Arkardo let's me borrow his goodies, my finds are his" seems more than fair.
As far as what I'm playing: a Pally that's synergizing Fishy. Whatever that is. We'll get Might/Blessed Aim from the moron(s), so Concentrate or Fanaticism. I have to read on whether Fana speed bonus applies to skellies at all, I read somewhere that the cooldown time cuts into any speed bonus, so Concentrate might be a better idea. Plus the ususal standard utility auras, have to figure out what they are besides Resist C/F/L.
Nightfish
07-04-2011, 09:09
Actually I don't run in windowed mode because I tend to click outside the window if I do that. All other programs are closed, ofc.
Well yea, the pally is not the best untwinked guy. Going with holy shock mitigates that a bit, though. As will the enchantress But yea, going with physical damage from a 1h weapon is a huge pain in final parts of the excretory system as far as I am concerned.
I'll leave the twinking thing up to you guys. I didn't start untwinked for any other reason than not to give anyone the FE Mod cooties. I certainly don't do it for bragging rights.
As far as "Untwinked" goes, we are already tainted by twinking, seeing as Virgait had some stuff twinked on. Nothing wrong with that, I'm just saying that we can't exactly call ourselves "PURE!" anymore anyway.
If you guys want to do the untwinked thing, that's more than fine. I just don't think a Pally is a very good choice on that one, unless I'm purely a walking stack of auras. I didn't exactly have a "plan" for the whole thing, I expected to die by the time we reached Council at the latest. Still can't believe I didn't die to Big D.
It's about having fun, so I say let's twink at least a bit. That's my thoughts anyway.
NF: you need to close all other programs. And play windowed (which you probably do, but just saying). The delays you were getting are from not enough CPU/memory at the local machine, believe it or not. Skellies are notorious for causing lag in general in MP games. But that didn't happen for me. It seems like your computer has biggest issues with it all.
Arkardo: As a melee character I'd appreciate any gear you can lend. I'll permit corpse looting and if I do manage not to die, I fully intend to give it all back. So hopefully if you have like a 'Spirit' shield for me, or a decent weapon, who knows maybe even 'Oath' eventually, perhaps even you found a HoZ, any of that would help a lot, and barring the case of all of us dying, you should get it all back no matter what. If you'd feel comfortable lending my such items, ofc.
I'm also happy to donate any finds you'd want at the end of this. Like we have a Pelta Lunata, which can be yours as far as I'm concerned, if you don't have one. To me something like: "Arkardo let's me borrow his goodies, my finds are his" seems more than fair.
As far as what I'm playing: a Pally that's synergizing Fishy. Whatever that is. We'll get Might/Blessed Aim from the moron(s), so Concentrate or Fanaticism. I have to read on whether Fana speed bonus applies to skellies at all, I read somewhere that the cooldown time cuts into any speed bonus, so Concentrate might be a better idea. Plus the ususal standard utility auras, have to figure out what they are besides Resist C/F/L.
Fanatism definitely helps skellies' attack speed. It's just that their cooldown doesn't decrease. It's still nice to have, especially in combinatio with Enchant.
I have to leave pretty soon, but I'll quickly gather some low level gear for you. Please PM me your email address and I'll send it. Tonight when I have some more time I'll look for some higher level gear for you. Do not worry about returning it. Also, I don't need drops, really, but thanks anyway. :)
This also applies to everyone else; if you'd like to have some gear, just post your build and PM me your email. I'm a packrat and keep just about anything, so no worries there.
Actually, if there's enchant around and all the skellies got it, Fanaticism is by far an inferior choice. The prime choice is without a doubt in my mind Conviction. Especially considering how %ED from skills and auras is the same for skellies.
Not only will it make sure skellies almost always hit, any non-FI monster will get their FR reduced to deep negatives, at least doubling the damage of both your enchant damage and fire half of CE. It will also make me immune to Conviction aura coming from bosses, which is always neat when you're a tank.
@Arkardo
I'm about to drop you a PM about items, but it's nothing urgent.
@Everyone:
I'm visiting my grandma in the hospital today, so I'm not sure I'll be able to accompany you in questing back to A4. Sorry.
--Greebo
On the basis that I think it was 9 CET we started last night, I get home at about 9 or 10 CET (depending on the day) and then I have to eat so that's 20 minutes or so. However, I don't work every day in a week. I very rarely work a thursday and I'm free on weekends 9 out of 10 times.
My bowazon was twinked, but I've recently re-started so it was twitchthrow and stuff. My windy I started after the NF death is untwinked so far, I don't mind twinking him, but honestly what am I going to twink him with? :P
Also, what would you guys prefer, extra life from Oak, or extra damage/ar from HoW?
Actually I don't run in windowed mode because I tend to click outside the window if I do that. All other programs are closed, ofc.
One solution to stop clicking outside the diablo window is to use a progam that captures the cursor inside the diablo window. Google for 'Window Mouse Capturer' for example. That one should for work for other programs as well.
Conviction.
A noble choice, but do consider that it won't help you much should you ever play this char by yourself. Or at least not without respeccing. Also, it's not like Enchant does by far the majority of the damage in our party. :P
@Everyone:
I'm visiting my grandma in the hospital today, so I'm not sure I'll be able to accompany you in questing back to A4. Sorry.
--Greebo
Don't worry about it. I hope it's nothing too serious? Best wishes!
On the basis that I think it was 9 CET we started last night, I get home at about 9 or 10 CET (depending on the day) and then I have to eat so that's 20 minutes or so. However, I don't work every day in a week. I very rarely work a thursday and I'm free on weekends 9 out of 10 times.
My bowazon was twinked, but I've recently re-started so it was twitchthrow and stuff. My windy I started after the NF death is untwinked so far, I don't mind twinking him, but honestly what am I going to twink him with? :P
Also, what would you guys prefer, extra life from Oak, or extra damage/ar from HoW?
I have the idea that most HC people don't like Oak, because it's an unreliable source of life. I think it's underrated. You see, when Oak, say, doubles your life and you lose half of it due to damage and then your Oak dies, you're left with half your original life. Without Oak you'd already be dead.
Also consider that in our fairly large party the odds of Oak dying vastly decreases. That, and HoW is almost no good should you play by yourself. Lastly, Oak benefits all party members, not just the physical attackers. All taken together, my vote would go to Oak, but others may have something different to say.
Nightfish
07-04-2011, 16:05
Seeing how Greebo is out for today (best wishes to your grandma, btw) I'll just try to catch up with you guys and get to act 5. Once you guys reached consensus on how you want the twinking handled and I can sort of guess when everybody is available I'll set a time.
Personally I can't always promise I'll be there but for the moment I intend to play most days at 20:00 CET for 2 hours or so.
I have the idea that most HC people don't like Oak, because it's an unreliable source of life.
Yea, I'm with those people. The thing is, with Oak you get used to have a huge buffer of life that may or may not be there. What happens when the Oak dies and then you get smacked in the face is pretty much exactly what happened to me yesterday at diablo. You're not used to taking this much damage this quickly and you die. Just like I wasn't used to having 0% LR for Diablo.
I just wanted to let you guys know that my grandma is fine. She had a hypoglycemic shock so the paramedics took her to the hospital, but no harm was done, except she banged her back when losing consciousness.
She is a diabetic and took a shot of insulin, but forgot to eat breakfast immediately afterwards. Which is like a major facepalm and she was lucky that someone was there (usually she lives alone and refuses to move anywhere else), but hopefully learned her lesson.
Anyway, thanks for all the wishes guys.
--Greebo
Nightfish
07-04-2011, 18:14
Oh man, that sounds like a close call...
My grandma was fighting tooth and nail to keep living on her own as well. She's well past 90 and was quite spry in her 80ies, but that can only go on for so long... Not too long ago she fell down some stairs, broke her hip and lay there on the floor god knows how long (anything between 5 minutes and nearly a day is possible... she's not quite clear in the head anymore...) That was the final straw, though, and she's moved into assisted living after her rehab. Keeps talking about going back to her house, though... Might be slightly morbid, but I hope I get a good, clean death before my head starts to go bad... I can't begin to guess how it's for her, but for my uncle who's taking care of her it's no walk in the park, that's for sure...
Glad to hear she's ok mate, my step-dad is diabetic and watching somebody go into shock isn't a nice experience.
I'll play some HC MP games. It would have to late night.
Nightfish
08-04-2011, 07:38
We tend to play from 20:00 CET to 22:00 CET at the moment. It seems that works for a lot of people so I think we'll keep that timeslot for now. Obviously it's not going to work every day but it seems to be okay more often than not.
Alright guys, I have a question that I'd like some help with. Nightfish will start twinking soon, and he has used the FE mod in the past. I'd like to emphasis once again that I have no problem whatsover with that mod, but I'll have to declare that in my trader profile. So yeah, no offense to Nightfish or anyone else who uses/has used that mod.
The problem is that I rely on trading to get the items I need for builds that I want to make, and HC traders are scarce enough as it is. Therefore, I'd like to know what I can and cannot do to prevent my characters and items to get 'tainted' (for the lack of a better term) and scare away potential traders. I figured this:
I cannot use my character in MP with unaffected chars/items. No problem there.
I cannot use my character to MF items and add them to my unaffected item pool, or trade them away. No problem there.
I cannot bring newly acquired items from MP-ing with people with the FE mod and add them to my item pool, or trade them away. Again, no problem there. I'll gladly have others have all the drops if that means I can both MP with them and still be able to trade freely.
I can take items from my unaffected stashes I used for twinking in affected games back to my unaffected stashes, as long as they have not been modified in any way; no socket quest, no upgrading, no imbue. Repairing is an issue, but I can solve that by removing several millions of gold from my unaffected stashes, way more than I'll ever need for repairs.
Of course, I will still declare having MP'd with people having used the FE mod (better to be overly specific), but with the remark that the items being trade are unaffected.
Can anyone please verify whether this will be enough?
Nightfish
08-04-2011, 10:04
As far as I know you cannot bring anything that's been in contact with the cooties back and be accepted by the more strict people. I believe the general conesus is that if you put one bad item in a pure stash, the whole stash goes bad. I'm not saying this makes sense or does not make sense, it's just what I remember from back in the day. To be on the safe side, it's probably best to consider everything used in a game with my cootie items a loss and put it in a separate "affected by nightfish cooties" stash.
I might be.a tad behind you guys as I've just restarted so I'm. Going to be sat on twitchthroe and a random ama bow until some reasonable rare drops + I can't use strafe due to lack of leech. So excuse me if I become pretty useless for a while xd
@Arkardo: Basically it's a "cooties principle". If an items has been in contact with other tainted item by
- being in the same stash
- being on the same character
- being in the same game
it itself is considered tainted. Basically think of 3 year old afraid of cooties. Hence the name.
At least that's how someone explained it once. The "being in the same stash" seems particularly harsh, but that's what I remember. When in doubt, PM Thyiad.
Are you guys planning to play tonight? I can be there.
If so, NF: do you have an 'Honor' in something reasonable? Or do you have a 5os Divine Scepter, or something similar for a base? And runes for 'Honor'... Arkardo has sent me some items, but I didn't have access to my stashes yet, so I'm not 100% what I got yet. But he did say he didn't have the weapons I wanted. Will know when I'm back at home in a few hours.
Just in case you felt like gifting me 'Honor' or pieces for one, NF, email is greebo.the.one.eyed.tomcat@gmail.com
--G.
@NF and Greebo: thanks for the input, guys! Greeb, I've sent you a second stash with a Butcher's Pupil, because apparently, I was drunk or stoned (or both) yesterday and thought I didn't have any. Still, they need clvl 39.
EDIT: 'it needs', not 'they need'. The day-after effect, apparently.
Nightfish
08-04-2011, 15:29
I've been keeping the first post up to date in terms of when I'm planning to host the next session. I'll look through my stuffs and see what I've got that might make a lvl 30-ish paladin happy. I know I have an Oath Ettin Axe for later on and various unqiues across the board, but Divine Scepters... nuh uh.
I'll not mention how someone confidently declared "I got Iratha's, I'll tank him!" and then very nearly got fried like I did yesterday.
That was definitely not me, btw.
GG on making NM Act 2 Radament guys. Eager to get going with y'all again. I pushed EatMyFeetMofo through to NM Act 2 today. I respecced her at NM Act 1 DoE quest so now she has maxed Tiger Strike and Dragon Tail. What do you guys want me to do with points from here on. I could go Phoenix Strike but my bad skills will mean the Frozen Orb things (3rd charge on PS) will trigger alot, leaving a lot of shattered bodies and no corpses for CE. I know Greebo's pally and my Assassy won't mind that but then CE goes down in effectiveness.
I could max my trap side skills And personally that's where I'd like to go. Any ideas on that? Hope to see you guys 2moro. Laters!
Nightfish
09-04-2011, 06:49
Either way is fine, really. I won't start using CE a lot until hell anyway. I had some health issues this night so I'm not sure I can play tonight. Could be I'm better in the evening, could be I'm still... I'll spare you the graphic images.
Either way is fine, really. I won't start using CE a lot until hell anyway. I had some health issues this night so I'm not sure I can play tonight. Could be I'm better in the evening, could be I'm still... I'll spare you the graphic images.
I'm in Edinburgh today so I don't know if I'll be avilable until late either, don't know when I'll get back :coffee:
Nice work Dave, to be honest most of us are just watching NF because his skellies kill everything before you get a chance :crazyeyes:
Get better soon mate :thumbup:
Ok I'm back, and available if we decide to play tonight.
Question guys;
When you guys aren't available, does me levelling a bit in private games spoil this? It's just I missed 2 sessions so although I'm with you in game terms, I'm still about 15 levels behind?
Of course not. I've done so too to catch up. To be honest, I got a lil' carried away and was ahead of the rest. Then again, it's a bit hard for me to predict when I can and cannot play, so it's a nice precaution to prevent getting behind too much. By the way, I can help you level, if you want.
Nightfish
10-04-2011, 07:29
Levelling to catch up is perfectly acceptable. Levelling ahead seems kinda pointless. I mean, if we're gonna MP through the game and half the people are already ahead of schedule it seems kinda ... weird.
Ideally I'd prefer to play when "most" of the regulars are there and skip sessions if they're not. Right now - in nightmare - that's probably not much of an issue. We're storming the place like nobody's buisness. But in hell, a nasty combination of mods can kill you real quick and it might be smart to adapt our playstyle for that.
Assumnig my stomach has settled somewhat, I'd like to host a session today, depending on when people are available. My hamachi is on all the time so maybe we can get something going even though I was in no condition to post plans yesterday.
Today at 7pm I'm going to a football game with my dad (we have season tickets), so I'll probably make it home at around 10pm.
So go ahead without me, I'll catch up.
Let there be no deeds.
--Greebo
Nightfish
10-04-2011, 08:38
We could play earlier today, of course. Since it's sunday and all... I'm in no shape to frolic in the sun so I'd be good to play whenever...
Nightfish
10-04-2011, 11:45
Game down, thanks for coming everyone. We beat nightmare baal without much in the way of incidents and now things are gonna get interesting in hell.
Eugh, that's me out :P
No way I can catch up to there lol
Eugh, that's me out :P
No way I can catch up to there lol
Where are you? I'm still about halfway in Nightmare Act 5. Surely I could help you out!
Nightfish
10-04-2011, 16:03
I think we dumped him somewhere in early nightmare. :badteeth: Srsly, though, our NM speed was really... speedy.
To be honest, there's too many people lol
I can't make *every* session so I'll just keep getting left behind and to be honest, it seems pointless^^ We never have all of us, just too many people :/
Thanks for the fun though guys, was enjoyable :)
Nobody go and deed on me...
GG for last nites play everyone. Certainly was a speedy affair. But Hell will be a different story. I finished at level 68 so if no one minds, I'm gonna do some levelling to 72 or 73 before entering Hell.
I have some gear if people need:
Treachery (Mage Plate: yea I know, a stink base-armour)
Sol x2
Shael x2
Tals Crest, plus other stuff. LMK if u need.
I think our killing speed was pretty awesome last nite, due to Amp + support auras. My use of CoS is mainly when I think we may be in danger (cursed ranged attackers, extra strong+aura bosses and minions, etc) I don't think that will change in Hell. I'll keep it to a minimum ofc but If you see the screen go dark, then know that DaveW hit the panic button :whistling: lolz.
What's our player setting for Hell? P3? P5? P1?
We gonna do Nilhathak? Be cool to personalise some gear to commemerate our journey (given we get that far :wink:) But I know he's a HC killer. Thoughts?
@Virgait: be stink to lose you after coming this far. If you do manage to level up, it'll be good to finish with you. Look forward to finishing this thing y'all. Go Team HC_All_Stars. :alright:
EDIT: Also have 'Smoke' in a Ghost Armour. Anyone need it?
GG for last nites play everyone. Certainly was a speedy affair. But Hell will be a different story. I finished at level 68 so if no one minds, I'm gonna do some levelling to 72 or 73 before entering Hell.
I have some gear if people need:
Treachery (Mage Plate: yea I know, a stink base-armour)
Sol x2
Shael x2
Tals Crest, plus other stuff. LMK if u need.
I think our killing speed was pretty awesome last nite, due to Amp + support auras. My use of CoS is mainly when I think we may be in danger (cursed ranged attackers, extra strong+aura bosses and minions, etc) I don't think that will change in Hell. I'll keep it to a minimum ofc but If you see the screen go dark, then know that DaveW hit the panic button :whistling: lolz.
What's our player setting for Hell? P3? P5? P1?
We gonna do Nilhathak? Be cool to personalise some gear to commemerate our journey (given we get that far :wink:) But I know he's a HC killer. Thoughts?
@Virgait: be stink to lose you after coming this far. If you do manage to level up, it'll be good to finish with you. Look forward to finishing this thing y'all. Go Team HC_All_Stars. :alright:
EDIT: Also have 'Smoke' in a Ghost Armour. Anyone need it?
I know, it's a shame :(
Would've been nice to finish it mate, but I just can't make the times because of Rl stuff and we keep playing sessions without people, so I'll literally end up needing pulled up again 2 days later :(
Hopefully play with some of you again some time though! I'd love to organise a smaller team that allows us to all play at the same time :nod:
@Greebo: I'd say /p1 :P. Dunno if it's possible to lower the player settings to the actual amount of player settings, though.
Anyway, I've made it to Act 1 Hell as well, at clevel 68 like Greeb. However, I won't be able to play today, and tomorrow and thursday I probably won't be on before 22:00 (GMT +1). I don't expect you guys to wait (that would be the X'th time you'd have to rush me up to speed).
@Virgait: that does mean you could always try to catch up a lil', and we could (attempt to) complete Hell together. I wouldn't mind helping you out in Nightmare, either.
I've also gotten Energy Shield now. Nightmare Baal dropped me a lowly Raven Frost, which I promptly equipped. I didn't want to equip a RF at first and choose a rare resist +mana (for massive enchanting and ES) ring instead. Then I remembered RF has +40 mana.
Completing the Nihlathak quest sounds good to me (we could come together for that one quest, but I'd suggest to wait till we're Guardians); Fish's skellies, my Teleport + Energy shield + Sol'd Harlequin Crest + Sol'd Vipermagi should be of great help, no?
Nightfish
11-04-2011, 08:44
What's our player setting for Hell? P3? P5? P1?
We gonna do Nilhathak? Be cool to personalise some gear to commemerate our journey (given we get that far :wink:) But I know he's a HC killer. Thoughts?
We're definetly not going to lower the player settings below how many we actually are - if that's even possible. We could probably go p8 all the way. I don't mind doing all the quests or even full clears so we're gaining levels as we go. We're definetly going to tone down our speed and hopefully our plan of attack. Ideally we're going to have skellies or Greebo out in front, not the teleporting sorceress :badteeth: And we probably want to treat amp damage packs with some respect as well.
I definetly "plan" not to play in Hell unless everyone who's not signed out is there. If that means not playing for a week or so, then we're taking a break for a week. Perhaps those who are there would want to start other chars together or whatever. Now, how well this works out in reality is a different thing... While I am loath to leave anyone behind, I am also aware that these things tend to dry up if you're not playing on a somewhat regular basis... So yea... It's kinda "damned if you do, damned if you don't".
I don't mind doing nihlathak's quest either, but maybe we should hold that one off until after guardian. All it takes to die there is a few steps in the wrong direction and nil casting CE a couple times... Lag spikes anyone? D: (I doubt you can do much about nil with 2 sol's, btw ;))
I'd love to join if you guys are able to wait for me to get help catching up, it's just I assumed you would be doing Hell in bits like NM. So I figured by time I catch up to there, you would've gone further again. If you're sure you're willing to wait, then me and Arkardo could get there. He is rather sex afterall :/
I doubt you can do much about nil with 2 sol's, btw ;)
That is in combination with Energy Shield. Then again, I'm not sure how long my mana will hold out before it fails.
@Virgait: too bad you're not playing a bonemancer.
That is in combination with Energy Shield. Then again, I'm not sure how long my mana will hold out before it fails.
@Virgait: too bad you're not playing a bonemancer.
How come? :P
Oh...right...ye... xD
Nightfish
11-04-2011, 09:13
That is in combination with Energy Shield. Then again, I'm not sure how long my mana will hold out before it fails.
It's more like, if you take 500 damage in one shot, subtracting 14 from that does not do that much, does it? I am not aware of anything that makes sol runes combine well with ES. The only "quirk" i remember is that ES comes before resists so elemental attacks hit it quite hard. Correct me if I'm wrong there, ofc.
It's more like, if you take 500 damage in one shot, subtracting 14 from that does not do that much, does it? I am not aware of anything that makes sol runes combine well with ES. The only "quirk" i remember is that ES comes before resists so elemental attacks hit it quite hard. Correct me if I'm wrong there, ofc.
Ah wait, we're talking different things. You were talking about CE, while I was talking about Tomb Vipers. My bad.
Good point, though; we should consider CE as well. Maybe we could get someone to equip a Lawbringer/Nature's Peace/Tyreal's Might :badteeth:? I don't know how ofen you're able to use CE for old Nihly can?
If we have a paladin -> redemption?
If there's a druid (not as far as I know?) -> 2 of the vines take corpses to some degree
Nightfish
11-04-2011, 12:37
There'll always be a window between when something dies and we can get rid of the corpse that has potential for disaster. Redemption takes a while to kick in and I can't get rid of all the corpses instantly. To be perfectly safe we'd all need to use Nature's Peace and ditch our mercs. That's why I'm saying we might want to wait until after guardian. I don't really expect things to go bad, but out of all the optional stuff, if anything screws us over, it's this.
Since I can teleport, dealing with the Tomb Vipers shouldn't be too much of an issue for me. They also only have 33% fire resist, so no problems there. I could even equip a Rising Sun for a nice chunk of fire absorb, and +2 fire skills to boot.
As for Nihlathak, one solution would be to provide Greebo with an amulet with teleport charges and kindly ask him to teleport straight up to Nihlathak and kill him. I've done this with an Enigma Concentrate barb back in my bnet days. His other equipment was focussed on +mana and FCR, and his weapon was a Doombringer. No big deal despite the not-so-very regular melee gear. That was on /p1, though.
Of course, I'm just laying out the options we have here.
Nightfish
11-04-2011, 14:26
All I'm hearing is "It's dangerous so let's send Greebo in first and see how that goes..." :badteeth:
Teleporting completely bypasses the Tom Viper issue, and specifically attacking Nihl completely bypasses the CE issue. I know this is asking a lot from Greeb, so that's why I said I'm only stating the options. I'm willing to at the very least go down there and kill any Vipers around, as well as taking a few CE's. ES + Sol's + Rising Sun should help a little.
I'm sure you have thought of a better solution by now? :whistling:
EDIT: I forgot to elaborate on something: I doubt RIP will help us much, because it only works for melee/ranged skills and a select few magic skills, and not for minions or whatever. Meaning that only Greebo and maybe Virgait, if he has a backup attack.
Yeah... I'm with Nightfish on that one. Guardian first. Nihlathak later, maybe.
--Greebo
PS. NF, can I beg you for some other gear at some point?
Nightfish
11-04-2011, 15:17
RIP does "work" for CE. Much to all of my necros' malcontent. To be honest, I have never noticed it not working with anything when I used it. Summons and mercs, yea, it does not work for those... But I cannot recall anything else that it did not work with, and I frequently used it to help my WS K runners deal with reviving Horadrim people.
As for the actual plan... I never said sending in Greebo first was a bad idea. ;)
I'd say we worry about that when we get there. If things go bad we'll all die at Corpsefire and then all this planning for Nil will have been in vain. D: Honestly, though, it should be fine if we advance carefully and let minions / range deal with stuff as we progress and I just blow every corpse up asap. But yea... I'd save this for after guardian celebrations. Murphy's law and all that, ya know? "If there's any way to do it wrong, he'll find it". (which, I believe, is what Murphy actually said. although the more common "anything that can go wrong it will go wrong" does fit better)
Sure you can greebo. Depending on what it is. ;) I am not rich in high runes but other stuff should be np. Like, resis charms and such. I'm good on those.
I'd love to join some games when they're are up (and more importantly - when I'm up).
Nightfish
11-04-2011, 15:49
I'd love to join some games when they're are up (and more importantly - when I'm up).
This "run" is about to go into hell, but I'm sure this wasn't the last time I hosted games. You're welcome to join us, of course, but if I read your other thread correctly you just restarted.
Welcome back Heskla. I remember ur HC singer, Danny. Too bad he's no longer with us.
Glad to see we wait for Virgait and all go together. I;ll be around today for awhile so see what happens re: MP.
Nightfish
11-04-2011, 20:18
I've set the date for our next session to the 15th, 20:00 CET. That gives us 4 days to catch up Vir. If that's not enough or if we're not all available on the 15th we'll just postpone it even more.
RIP does "work" for CE. Much to all of my necros' malcontent. To be honest, I have never noticed it not working with anything when I used it. Summons and mercs, yea, it does not work for those... But I cannot recall anything else that it did not work with, and I frequently used it to help my WS K runners deal with reviving Horadrim people.
As for the actual plan... I never said sending in Greebo first was a bad idea. ;)
I'd say we worry about that when we get there. If things go bad we'll all die at Corpsefire and then all this planning for Nil will have been in vain. D: Honestly, though, it should be fine if we advance carefully and let minions / range deal with stuff as we progress and I just blow every corpse up asap. But yea... I'd save this for after guardian celebrations. Murphy's law and all that, ya know? "If there's any way to do it wrong, he'll find it". (which, I believe, is what Murphy actually said. although the more common "anything that can go wrong it will go wrong" does fit better)
Sure you can greebo. Depending on what it is. ;) I am not rich in high runes but other stuff should be np. Like, resis charms and such. I'm good on those.
I realized my last post wasn't very clear... that's what you get for frantically trying to cram in the latest thing for an exam ánd trying to participate in a discussion at the same time. RIP should indeed work fine for us, save for the minions/mercs.
I hope you have some spare Nature's Peaces though, as I have none.
@Greeb: feel free to ask me as well!
Nightfish
11-04-2011, 20:48
As I said, let's worry about that when we get there. That is still quite a ways off. No use selling the hide before you skin the bear, ya know? ;D And let's definetly not use RIP items right now my necro will cry.
This "run" is about to go into hell, but I'm sure this wasn't the last time I hosted games. You're welcome to join us, of course, but if I read your other thread correctly you just restarted.
I red this thread about two days ago. At that time you were all about at my necro's level. But now it seems you went crazy for two days and reached hell already - impressive! I'd gladly join another time.
@DaveW - Im not sure I ever knew Danny the Singer. Mixed me up with somebody?
Nightfish
12-04-2011, 06:45
I red this thread about two days ago. At that time you were all about at my necro's level. But now it seems you went crazy for two days and reached hell already - impressive! I'd gladly join another time.
Yea, we kinda twinked and omgwtfbbqpwnd nightmare. But seeing how successful this endeavor has been already I'm quite sure I'll kick this off again sooner rather than later, after this run is done.
Yea, we kinda twinked and omgwtfbbqpwnd nightmare. But seeing how successful this endeavor has been already I'm quite sure I'll kick this off again sooner rather than later, after this run is done.
I see! Twinking is the ****.
Nightfish
12-04-2011, 07:17
Oh yea, Greebo and I have been considering to do this untwinked single pass some time in the future. That would most definetly lead to a more sedately pace.
Oh yea, Greebo and I have been considering to do this untwinked single pass some time in the future. That would most definetly lead to a more sedately pace.
Untwinked is charming. :cloud9: The super-twinked rushes through the game kind of made me fed up with d2. It just isn't the same fun to carry a 1.09 Raven Claw compared to a cracked Hunter's Bow Of Crap. An untwinked MP-game would be fun, heck, even with wacky builds like hunter-assassins, malee-sorcs etc :)
Nightfish
12-04-2011, 08:12
Yea, I can see where you're coming from. Personally I enjoy both kinds of gameplay. Seeing how fast I can beat the excrement out of the game or taking things at a more leisurely pace. To be honest, I expect our pace to be quite a bit more careful in Hell. If not right away, then definetly after the first death. I'm also thinking about doing this with limited twinkage, maybe. Like only items that NM meph can drop. That always seemed kinda "fair" to me.
@DaveW - Im not sure I ever knew Danny the Singer. Mixed me up with somebody?
My bad; I meant Neskja's HC Singer
[http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6363719]
An untwinked party wud be cool too. I know NatNit is keen to do something along those lines.
Yea, I can see where you're coming from. Personally I enjoy both kinds of gameplay. Seeing how fast I can beat the excrement out of the game or taking things at a more leisurely pace. To be honest, I expect our pace to be quite a bit more careful in Hell. If not right away, then definetly after the first death. I'm also thinking about doing this with limited twinkage, maybe. Like only items that NM meph can drop. That always seemed kinda "fair" to me.
They ability to twink is also "self-adjusting" in hardcore since you will loose good items every now and then. At least if you're sloppy. The fact you can loose items is one of the good things with HC I think. Limiting it to NM Meph seems "fair", yes.
My bad; I meant Neskja's HC Singer
[http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6363719]
An untwinked party wud be cool too. I know NatNit is keen to do something along those lines.
Neskja, of course! It seems people can't tell the difference between our names - you're not alone. I think he is finish and I'm swedish - so, it's the same street basicly.
So the plan for now is that we wait for Fri evening so that people can catch up, correct?
Nightfish
12-04-2011, 17:22
That was the general idea, yea. Unless I hear something else.
Just out of curiosity, are you people leveling in NM for Hell?
@Arkado Yep, I ran some WSK and Baal to level 74.
OK, guess I should do some as well, then. :)
I dreamed, for the second time this week, that I lost a HC character. The first time it was Hotstuff, my enchantress, this time it was a low level fireball sorc. Dunno, maybe it's foreshadowing? :P
Anyway, for the peeps that would like some assistance, I'll be available tonight. Just poke me on Hamachi or PM me. :thumbsup:
Nightfish
13-04-2011, 08:41
I haven't levelled and I don't really intend to. Everyone who feels it's necessary can do so, ofc. Ideally that levelling would coincide with getting virgait caught up.
Sorry guys, I've got some problems arising IRL, so my D2 time is going to be next to nothing just now. It's not really fair to hold you all back. Good luck, and I hope nobody deeds! Hopefully play again some time :)
P.S. I have somebody's kuko and demon machine, so I'll try to organise getting those back ASAP
Been fun guys :)
Sorry to hear that, Virgait. Personally, I'm too afraid to level what with me having NF's gear and all...
Nightfish
13-04-2011, 09:48
Sorry to hear that, Virg. But I'm sure we'll do this a couple more times.
In any event, I'd say we'll try to get a session going tonight as Virg dropped out.
Sorry guys, I've got some problems arising IRL, so my D2 time is going to be next to nothing just now. It's not really fair to hold you all back. Good luck, and I hope nobody deeds! Hopefully play again some time :)
P.S. I have somebody's kuko and demon machine, so I'll try to organise getting those back ASAP
Been fun guys :)
Good luck with the RL stuff; hopefully nothing too serious? Don't worry about the items; I've got more Kuko's and Machines, so just keep 'em.
I'm in for some MP'ing tonight, then. It might be wise to gain a few levels in NM first, though. I'm 68 at the moment. I don't expect to fall over dead just like that, though.
Well, I know NF said some time ago that he doesn't like to level. I'm 68 also, and I think NF is more or less the same. I'll be fine with whatever you guys decide, but as a melee character I'd gain more from clvl point of view than casters, so I wouldn't mind some levelling.
It might be enough to clear The Hole, The Cave and The Tower though. I just think we may have fallen into the trap where we are too low of a level to gain significant experience from monsters in Hell.
Nightfish
13-04-2011, 10:10
Well, I know NF said some time ago that he doesn't like to level.
That's true. Of all the 7-ish characters I lost on my way to 51 guardians, at least half were from levelling them in NM so they don't die in hell. 68 is pretty average for me to enter Hell, but I don't mind doing a Baal run or two if you other guys want to get a little higher first.
I'm not showing up tonight. My grandfather is in a hospital and apparently in the ICU... So yeah. No D2 for me.
Hope your grandfather gets well soon Greebo.
Nightfish
14-04-2011, 18:33
Best wishes to your granddad, Greebo. Hope he gets well soon.
We're not playing unless everyone is here, of course, so no session tonight.
I don't know what else to say; best wishes to your granddad from me as well.
So an update: my grandfather felt bad the whole night before, but for some reason he doesn't like to call the paramedics. So he just went (on foot) to the hospital and spent there 5 hours waiting to see someone. It's like if it was serious, he'd have called the paramedics, right? No matter he's 80 and waiting in the emergency room... Right.
So yeah, he had some irregular heartbeat and they finally took him to the ICU for observation, at least overnight. Gave him some medication but it only partially helped. Me, my mom and her sister got to see him for like 2 minutes each.
The most annoying thing is that the only reason I found out at all, is that I have a standing arrangement to drive him to the store every week and carry the shopping bags, and so on, upstairs. So when I called to confirm the time for tomorrow, my grandma (not the same one as the hypoglycimic shock thing) was like, "Oh not tomorrow. He's in the ICU at the hospital. Don't tell anyone." My mother was standing right next to me and she knew nothing. So yeah. Uncool.
But later we visited grandma too, and at the moment I'm more worried about her than about my grandpa. She was not all there, you know? And one of the first things she said was "I'm not moving out of here," which I'm still not sure what to think of.
So yeah, a hard night for me. Thanks for all the wishes, guys.
--Greebo
That's some situation, I can tell. Any update on your grandfather?
So the medication finally seems to have stabilized his heart, though they are keeping him hospitalized for a while. All seems to be going in the right direction for now. Which is quite a relief.
We up for this evening?
--Greebo
Nightfish
15-04-2011, 16:55
Unless somebody's not here, we're up. :)
I'm available till about 22:00.
Nightfish
15-04-2011, 17:54
Game's up but we're not rolling until dave get's there.
GG tonite guys. Sorry I was bit late but I need my beauty sleep. For virgaits sake, we made it to Act 3. Andy and Duriel went down pretty well. I had a NDE when after getting the Viper Amulet, I went back to get a 5os Thresher, but got surrounded my vipers and knocked into hit recovery. Went down to 1/3 life. S+E ftw :wink: Hopefully we rock it up 2moro. I can see light at the end of the tunnel.
(Go into the light Dave, go into the light .....)
Nightfish
16-04-2011, 17:59
Game's up.
Nightfish
17-04-2011, 20:26
Minor Progress to the River of Flame WP in A4Hell. If all goes well we'll wrap it up tomorrow.
Guys, I'm terribly sorry, but the way things look now I probably won't be available tonight; too busy with work. :(
Nightfish
18-04-2011, 16:56
Guys, I'm terribly sorry, but the way things look now I probably won't be available tonight; too busy with work. :(
Alright, we weren't sure what was going on with you yesterday because you kept going on and off in hamachi but didn't reply. :P
Anyway, no session tonight, then. We'll wrap this up when we're all available.
That's strange; I thought I checked whether Hamachi was running, but it didn't appear in my system tray. I also wasn't notified of any messages. Guess it was running somewhere in the background. My apologies for that!
Nightfish
19-04-2011, 17:13
Just a reminder that we're (maybe?) wrapping this up tonight. Actually about an hour from now. I'd really like to get this done today because it's possible that from tomorrow on my schedule will change somewhat. Unrelated to the portal 2 release date, I assure you. (no, seriously)
Is everyone else here? If so I can be there in about 15-20. Just wait with Diablo killing for me?
Nightfish
19-04-2011, 18:20
Dave's here already, so we're only missing Arakardo. I hope he shows up. If not I'm considering to roll with the 3 of us and play the last 2 acts with ark another time. As I said, I might be available a lot less from tomorrow on.
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