+2 PAL SKILL +20% FCR +17 all res 2 socket..

[johnnysbtw]

Imp crest Circlet

+2 to PALADIN Skill Levels

+20% Faster Cast Rate

+7 Poison damage over 3 seconds

All Resistances * 17

Socketed [2]

Please offer.....

[scoobs]

5 hrs on it

[johnnysbtw]

No.thanks.

[scoobs]

Put up a res then. Just saying no thanks to an offer doesn't help either of us.

[johnnysbtw]

thanks for u'r offer...

[UberB]

sorry about that...sorry

Umm...do what the man says and put up a reserve?

[scoobs]

I pm'd him about it, he says someone in his country offered him over 350hrs and he thinks it's worth more than that so I'm out :p

[elationtheory]

i dun really see the use for it though.

350hrs.

wow.

[Gadfly]

I can see the equivalent of 350hrs. With 2 sockets and 17 resists, this is one of the godliest Paladin helms I've seen advertised.

[imajackastro]

Nice find, man. I don't know the statistics on rare items, but that seems about perfect. 350 HRs seems a bit much lol, but yeah. Definitely worth quite a bit.

[WindChaser]

not an attempt to flame.. but you might as well try to sell it for rl money over paypal or something lol

350 hrs? a char only has 88 slots (inventory + stash)... so thast like 4 mules full of HRs

to trade it for something that could poof, lets face it, 350 hrs, no way they can be all legit... or even sojs (thats like 120 sojs!).......might as well sell it for something that has 0 chance of being duped and will NOT poof unless you want it to... like real money? :p

[angryteen]

Considering it has no stats mods like Str or Dex, no +life or mana, and no extra resist mods on top of the 17 res all, 350hr does seem waaaaay overblown...

Nonetheless congrats on the fortune u made.

[a brick]

Ebay...? I think you could make some bucks

[johnnysbtw]

i'm not kidding..

so i neeed Pricecheck..

someone offer me over 350 Hr(staff)

Just neeed PC....

[johnnysbtw]

I pm'd him about it, he says someone in his country offered him over 350hrs and he thinks it's worth more than that so I'm out :p

"""I'll up my offer 10hrs then. I just got back so don't know how much these things are actually worth now myself."""


scoobs... u told me u just got back so u don't know how much........

and offer only 10 hrs......

10 hrs .....i think it's more funny than 350 hrs...

[scoobs]

As I told you in PM, I'd have taken 350hrs in a sec.
350's HR the equivalent of about 800-900fg on that other site it bulk hr rates. That's about 9 times what a plain 2/20/2 would go there. Basically you're getting 9 times as much for 17 more res all.
It's definately a nice helm which was why I was interested but it's missing the extra stat that'd get you too much more than what you got offered already.


"""I'll up my offer 10hrs then. I just got back so don't know how much these things are actually worth now myself."""


scoobs... u told me u just got back so u don't know how much........

and offer only 10 hrs......

10 hrs .....i think it's more funny than 350 hrs...

You didn't set a res so naturally I'm going to start with a lowball (who in their right mind would start with the max price they'd pay?) and work my way up by 5s. That's what you get for not putting up a res when you already have a rough idea what you want.
I did just get back and I don't know how much it's actually worth so I wasn't lying there and why I asked you for a hr number from the start that you kept refusing to give. I do know that I'd never offer anything close to 350hrs worth for just 17 res all extra which is why I dropped out.

[johnnysbtw]

Different Country Different price..

My English is poor.

My best offer is over 350hr that's true

2/20/2s only worth 25-30 hrs in my country.

u can buy 2/20/2s anytime with 25-30 hrs.

do u ever see 2/20/17res/2s ? or 17 dex or 17 str with 2 S

i never saw ...maybe i just got back about 2 months..

so i just ask PC....and i won't sell it out here even i get best offer over 500000hrs

i already said sorry abotu the word ""LOL""

[scoobs]

Honestly, I see a similar circ to yours every month. Not on this site but on the other trade site it's not that rare.

I'm just saying that for 350, I'd personally take it in a heartbeat, don't know why you're looking for higher offers. Never said you were lying about that.

If you weren't planning to sell on here, why even post?

As for the LOL part, I took no offence to that, I think that you just didn't understand what I meant. By asking for a res, I was asking for a minimum price you'd sell for. When you did finally tell me via pm I dropped out because I don't personally value that circ at that high of a price.

[weiz]

My advice: don't even bother wasting time selling it here if you want some serious offers on this rare helm. Also, it's hard to get a P/C on godly rares, since it's always fluctuate in prices according to demand, nice find though~

[scoobs]

I'd agree with weiz on everythign weiz said but the fact that it's godly. When you look at it rationally It's only 4 out of 6 good rolls and one of them is basicaly just 1 extra socket since any rare can get 1 socket. I doubt he'd get too many offers that'd be better than 350hrs on any forum not just this one.

[alphaz]

I'm not gonna comment on the price, but if you can get get stacked resists from other gear (which isn't that hard on a paladin) a plain 2/20/2 will do just fine :)
Nice find though, I would grab the money and run away if I was you lol.

[a brick]

If you're looking for a PC, why not post it in the Trade Values forum. that's what it's for. this forum is for trading and i don't get why you would post it here if you had no intention of trading it.
I would simply make a new thread in the trade values forum where there are people who can help you out more.

[johnnysbtw]

if you're looking for a pc, why not post it in the trade values forum. That's what it's for. This forum is for trading and i don't get why you would post it here if you had no intention of trading it.
I would simply make a new thread in the trade values forum where there are people who can help you out more.

thanks .

Already do it..but noone p/c.....

[johnnysbtw]

honestly, i see a similar circ to yours every month. Not on this site but on the other trade site it's not that rare.

I'm just saying that for 350, i'd personally take it in a heartbeat, don't know why you're looking for higher offers. Never said you were lying about that.

If you weren't planning to sell on here, why even post?

As for the lol part, i took no offence to that, i think that you just didn't understand what i meant. By asking for a res, i was asking for a minimum price you'd sell for. When you did finally tell me via pm i dropped out because i don't personally value that circ at that high of a price.

i need offer...that 's all

very easy

and u don't need lie to me ok...

U just got back ,and don't know how much...

it's just a game ok??

[scoobs]

i still don't understand what your point it.

You kept asking for offer despite me asking you both in thread and via pm what your res was so when you continued to refuse to give one, of course I'm going to lowball when that happens.

I didn't lie about a thing, I did just come back so I have no idea how much it was actually worth in the current environment, what I do know is I wasn't prepared to pay over 350hr for that circ so when you finally did give me the price I ended my bids there. I don't understand what you're trying to say now.

[Bz-OwnZ]

Come on, scoobs, stop this.
Anyone with half a brain knows you're in the right, and the guy can barely type out comprehensible English...this is going nowhere.

[scoobs]

Sorry, old habits are hard to kick. I just like discussing/arguing about anything and everything regardless of whether I'm right or wrong :p

[elationtheory]

i'd like to point out one thing:

prices don't fluctuate according to countries. they fluctuate according to realms. a stone of jordan on us west goes for 3 hrs average whether the buyer or seller is an american, taiwanese, zimbabwean or martian.

unless you're saying taiwanese like to overpay by more than 10 times the going rate, then the only thing i can say to that is that i have a 398/38 grief if you're interested.

discount for you. only 300 hrs.

you need?

and as a brick has pointed out, why post in the trade forum here if you're not accepting any offers?

(and strangely, you kept asking scoobs to offer?)

what's that all about man.

[a brick]

johnnysbtw, I think if you can understand what we are writing your English is pretty good. I'm sorry but you don't really have any place to demand things on a forum.

Idk if I'm allowed to do this, but you can try jsp if you haven't already. something like your item would cause an uproar and the 350 hrs might even be topped, which is what you're looking for.

happy trails,
brick

[elationtheory]

can someone actually explain to me the great thing about the helm? i'm seriously bewildered. lol.

i don't understand its use. i'm assuming it's a hammerdin pvp helm, which leads me to this logic:

best 2 hammerdin fcr breakpoints are 75/125.

you don't need the helm for 75 breakpoint, so i'm assuming its for the 125 breakpoint. not to mention, operating with 75 breakpoint in pvp is certain death. your hammer fields become as holy as vatican city.

anyway.

125 can be reached by using magefists/trangs, arachs, 35 spirit, and wizzy/suicide branch.

if you're insistent on using hoto, then you still need 10fcr.

this 10fcr can come from a single fcr ring or a fcr amulet.

fcr rings can spawn with str and all res as well. that leaves your amulet free for maras. (i'm assuming most people will choose this option) a perfect maras comes with 30 allres.

if you choose a fcr amulet with str and all res, that leaves your ring slot free for soj.

neither the fcr ring nor the fcr amulet will cost you 350 hrs.

if the helm is replaced with a 15dr 2os coa, double ber-d (once more costing less than 350 hrs), you get 31%dr + 8%dr from enig = 39%dr, 20fhr from treks + 30fhr from coa + 55fhr from spirit = 105fhr, hitting the 86 4frame breakpoint for fhr, for a total of 1 less +1 all skills. you also get more resists. the worst resist roll of a coa is 20, which is already higher than the resists on this circlet.

i'll also assume the helm is going to be double shael-ed for fhr. which means you'll hit the fhr bp as well i suppose. so no issue there.

if you're forking out 350hrs for the helm, i can only assume you have a 20 stat ptorch and anni. which means you only need 7 str from the fcr ring to wear dusk enigma and wear coa at lvl 83 with base strength, if you have a 15str treks. a few stat points off the torch or anni just delays the coa usage by a few lvls. or the ring could come with more str. a 12 str fcr ring isn't all that expensive.

so no unnecessary stat pumping there.

so in other words, you're spending 350 hrs as opposed to <50hrs on 2os15dr coa + fcr ring, all for a +1 all skills, while having 31% less dr which is invaluable against smiters, barbs, windys, and zons.

after pvp penalties, you have essentially spent 350hrs on +100 hammer damage, which is negligible.

pardon me if i say this, but i think that's ridiculously stupid.

[weiz]

I actually prefered to use shako (ber'ed) + dungos to get dr and 2fcr rings + 2 pally 10fcr ammy to get the 125 bp. Coa str requirement is too high, and I prefer 65 WW over treks too. Haha this has become a spam thread somehow ;)

[alphaz]

The only hammerdin build I know that need this is is hoz-using one, or if you use a godly 2pal/3bh/3conc/2os magic scepter + spirit. Good luck with crap DR (assuming PvP).