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commonhumans
03-08-2009, 19:55
Those of you who have spent any time in the Character area of the diablo.incgamers.com forums know I'm pulling for the bard in the character D3 character releases... But i can say i would love to play any of these chracters that weve created/talked about in all of these posts. We've all had great points and helped make every ones ideas better.

With all of that being said...

What 2 characters do you think are showing up. Don't explain it. Just say it. Gut feeling. Don't defend your post, grow a pair, stand firm, say it like you mean it. THESE CLASSES WILL SHOW UP. Pretend like we are making bets here. Winner gets bragging rights. Thats all.

I know theres a poll up top, but its doens't have all the choices. So yeah.

Heres mine:

The Bard and The Knight. These will be the next two classes int he Diablo 3 core game.

Beatrix
03-08-2009, 20:29
a bard would be awesum! If they are gonna ad a bard I'd blindly take this char without even lookin' at the skill tree..

also, I like to see the monk comin' back.. i never played D1, so I dont know what skills the monk has, but just like a bard. - I'd take it blindly..

(yeh, bard and monks are cool.. any game ;P)

LaZeR
04-08-2009, 12:33
1. Rogue
2. Monk

Probably not both of them, but I bet with all the confidence in the world 1 of them will be.

mince pies
06-08-2009, 23:32
1.Archer, or something similar
2.Nephalem/Angel-Demon hybrid

stillman
08-08-2009, 06:13
After careful elimination:

1. Archer (pure) or Shapeshifter (an archer-druid hybrid)


2. Cleric or Crusader (copies of paladin with minor mechanical changes)

I know it's 4 and cheating, but I want those bragging rights bad.

NASE
08-08-2009, 09:25
You'll only get 1/4th of the bragging rights.

1. ranger (combination of bow and mele with minor nature/survival/stealth/... elements).
2. light footsoldier with elementalist elements.

Technomancer
08-08-2009, 10:18
1. Cleric.
2. Ranger type character (medium-heavy ranged and melee). Elementalism possible.

Expansion characters, FTW:
3. Bard.
4. Shapeshifter.

Beatrix
10-08-2009, 10:39
I'd also like to see an occultist..


so, for me this would be

bard/occultist/monk

GuardianHadriel
10-08-2009, 15:42
TempleGuardian
Ranger

sirBeReN
10-08-2009, 16:20
1. Cleric.
2. Ranger type character (medium-heavy ranged and melee). Elementalism possible.

Expansion characters, FTW:
3. Bard.
4. Shapeshifter.

Exactly this.

And I would L O V E to see a skill like paladin's Charge come back. I know Barbarian has one, but I'd like a similar to D2 paladin's. Awesome skill for an "outsider" build...

sirBeReN
10-08-2009, 16:29
Sorry for double posting, I forgot the Necromancer. I just don't give a **** if he is similar to WD. I want him back definitely, at least in the expansion :(

LaZeR
10-08-2009, 16:51
Sorry for double posting, I forgot the Necromancer. I just don't give a **** if he is similar to WD. I want him back definitely, at least in the expansion :(

A Necro is probably the safest bet for an expansion char.
Yet the worst one for the core game.

Technomancer
11-08-2009, 02:34
The Necromancer will be in the 2nd expansion.

Yes, there will be 2 expansions. At least.

I get quad-props if they actually do put out 2 of them!! :D

Leugi
11-08-2009, 22:14
1. Hunter or Rogue.
2. Swashbuckler.

Really though, a well done swashbuckler would be awesome

Beatrix
11-08-2009, 23:46
Swashbuckler are nice! - I'd also like to see an occultist.

Knight_Wolf
12-08-2009, 00:50
Here are my two guesses:-

-Raider (desert type archer who uses ranged and swift light melee attacks plus shields and traps)
-Shape Shifter (i say from the demonic variety, like the cultists, he gets possessed and transformers into various demonic forms)

Sir Phobos
12-08-2009, 05:05
My guesses:

1. Thief.
2. Shape-shifter.

The shape-shifter seems like a pretty popular pick. In the spirit of the thread, I want to give it a specific name, but it's difficult to guess exactly what kind of a character it would be. I'd have to lean toward something demonic, though, like Knight_Wolf guessed.

Flux
12-08-2009, 07:42
Yes, there will be 2 expansions. At least.

I get quad-props if they actually do put out 2 of them!! :D

Blizzard has as much as confirmed this already, so I'm not sure about "quad" props.
http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/diablo-3-will-have-several-expansions/

I say we see the ranger/archer/rogue, whatever "the bow-user with a twist" character is, announced at blizzcon. I was right last year, since I thought we'd see the mage then. A few weeks before the show, I was talking to Bashiok and said something like, "I hope you guys are revealing the mage, since everyone knows you're going to have one. Get the obvious out of the way and then we can have more fun guessing about #4 and #5."

He replied in some noncommittal CM-ish fashion, of course. Haven't tried the same thing with the archer yet this year.

Technomancer
12-08-2009, 07:55
Well, I completely missed that!! Of course, I haven't really taken a keen interest in D3 until way after that article, so that makes my speculation moot. Since I reached that conclusion without any direct clues, I can at least be proud of myself! :p

Really when you think about it, the last few D2 patches have been free "mini-expansions", starting with 1.10. Between synergies, Ubers, and some of the new 1.13 features like respeccing, it could all mount up to almost be a full expansion. Almost.

Of course this is all totally off topic...

Expansion #2:
Necromancer
Soldier (a civilization based heavy armor/weapon melee character to compliment the Barb, maybe some Pally aspects. Probably a pole weapon specialist. )

Banehide
12-08-2009, 17:36
I would totally love to see a Steam-Punk inspired character class that brings some post-apocalyptic tech into an ancient world.

Also, a vampire class could also be quite interesting (melee, shape shifting, magic)

Lazzie
12-08-2009, 17:49
Well, we already have a physical powerhouse, magical powerhouse, and hybrid magic user. I'm 99% sure that what's left are a ranged specialist and a hybrid physical fighter. But guessing archetypes and tropes aren't what this topic is about. My class guesses:

Nomad
Bows, throwing weapons, stealth/survival skills

Vampire
Melee weapons, control / transform into demons

EDIT: Oh crap, I wasn't supposed to explain or defend, was I? Deleted.

Ezekiall
12-08-2009, 19:04
Gunslinger
Flintlock pistols, rifles, and passives
Technician
Elemental damage, traps, and summoning machines

HorseRotovator
12-08-2009, 20:26
Ranger
bows, crossbows, poisons, traps, espionage, Westmarch

Monk
polearms, exorcism, angelic trance, levitation, Kehjistan
(formerly known as 'Dervish')

DoorKnob
12-08-2009, 23:36
Some form of archer that will work as a secondary melee damage dealer or ranged DPS. Etc.

And some sort of hybrid whose abilities cover all sections but isn't fantastic. (similar to WoW shaman jack of all trades master of none idea)

I have a feeling the 5th/ at least one of the classes will be different and really, really cool.

Zobimanguydo
13-08-2009, 03:18
Solid Snake

and


Agent 47

z00t
13-08-2009, 03:37
My two calls are:

1) Ranger-esque character
2) Crusader

I also suspect a Ranger-type character as a sort of token 'nature dude' while also filling the capacity of a ranged specialist, with potential melee builds for versatility :].

The Crusader was a scrapped hero for WarCraft 3, but functions similarly to a WoW Paladin in that he would bestow Seals on himself and his allies.

Also, just because I feel that the Witch Doctor is being judged too prematurely, I feel compelled to say that should Blizzard include the Necromancer, I really don't think that the design will overlap too much with the Witch Doctor. There may be some aesthetic similarities in that the Witch Doctor utilises undead minions, but as Blizzard has pointed out, the nature of the Witch Doctor's playstyle is such that his particular pets are much more transient and probably fewer in number than the Necro's. I am even hoping for and expecting there to be many viable summon-less Witch Doctor builds.

beardedcap
13-08-2009, 03:41
Monk and Bard

sirBeReN
13-08-2009, 04:08
I now remember Dervishes being mentioned by Blizzard as an idead they abandoned... I was surprised they were thinking about something Turkish in this way, seemed a bit out of the game to me.
But what about an ancient warrior inspired from history as a replacement to Paladin?
What about adding The Cataphract?
Decent armour character, perfect protection, based on melee to survive.
This would have a great potential to make him different character than Barbarian. Lots of ways to give a different style of battling, depending on how you want him to be eventually.

But maybe it would be hard to give him a distinction from Paladin... :scratchchin: maybe something similar to Paladin and Crusader classes, but with some new ideas in.

Telzen
13-08-2009, 04:26
Raider and Monk

nukka
13-08-2009, 05:33
i think the first class will be a darker class, possibly vampire.
second will be a light class, im thinking crusader (bow and light melee).

kriptoss
13-08-2009, 06:06
Hey i think there will be a pirate, or some what of a pirate since misheif, how ever you spell his name, is kind of a pirate and he comes from Westmarch and the other class mb a type of tyreal class like an angel dude.:thumbup:

dizAndyVan
13-08-2009, 07:42
1)Ranged/Melee Hybrid Assassin/Rogue type class
2)Magic/Melee Hybrid Knight type class

OmniSliver
13-08-2009, 08:11
Dark archer
Holy shapeshifter

sylfin
13-08-2009, 08:57
I'll go for:
a) rogue class (for ranged weapons)
b) dark/fallen angel (for party buffs)

NotAgain
13-08-2009, 10:15
And I'll go for warrior type class with improved ranged abilities and a craracter that has semi-morphing skills. Something like changing his arm into a demons one or using some weird acid spits copied from a monster and other things like that.

Sakris
13-08-2009, 10:54
Hunter
Paladin

HorseRotovator
13-08-2009, 11:29
Hey, here's an idea:

Neither of the next two classes to be announced are going to be a Paladin, or a Rogue. Why? Because Blizzard has explicitly stated that neither of the next two classes are going to come from the previous games.

So if you're betting here, know that the chances of that are extremely low, very near zero.

Also, Jay Wilson rejected the name 'Dervish' as a class name because it was too complex, so when people suggest something like 'Myrmidon' or 'Zakarumite' as a name, I have to laugh and shake my head.

On a purely speculative note, I'll wager that there will be NO 'non-human' player classes, i.e. NO angel/archangel, demon, gargoyle, elf, or dwarf, or centaur, or whatever else. Shapeshifter? Maybe. You could say Druids were 'werewolves'. You could say Necromancers could 'turn into vampires', in a manner of speaking...

The Rockman
13-08-2009, 11:30
1) Some range bow/crossbow/melee hybrid like a ranger (why bow/melee as there's been no character in diablo that uses weapons that don't have some melee and even the wizard got melee skills in D3)

2) Looks like there's only the odd ball classes left, so I guess its some kind of shapesifter or something no one thought of.

cyguard
13-08-2009, 14:17
1) Ranger
2) Crusader

rlstills
13-08-2009, 16:21
1. I'm liking the idea of a flint lock specialist, as someone else suggested.
2. A pirate would be fun although I'm un sure on a skill tree for him apart from maybe something similiar to blackbeard, aka edward teach. Without going too much into actual history it took a multitude musket fire, stabs with a cutlass etc to kill him. Could be fun to se a pirate with a wooden leg and a patch on his eye. Perhaps he gets a pet like an octopus or something.

sirBeReN
13-08-2009, 16:26
Also, Jay Wilson rejected the name 'Dervish' as a class name because it was too complex,
A nonsense argument, if you ask me. This is not a reason for not putting a whole class in, and Dervish is not "complex" at all. Most pple can understand and pronounce the word easily.

commonhumans
13-08-2009, 16:56
wow, I wrote NEST two classes. I'm an idiot.

kriptoss
13-08-2009, 18:08
lol I didnt notice you typed the word nest,

ZaneZavin
13-08-2009, 18:38
Hunter

Warlord

Silverfang
13-08-2009, 19:11
Daemon-summoner & Ranger

edit: I bet 5 m³ of Air... :p

Typoko
13-08-2009, 19:44
Hi!

Ranger (light melee / bow) & Paladin replacer (More durable than Barb but less pds / spells and some group buffs tho not as much as paladin had.)

dizAndyVan
13-08-2009, 20:40
Hey, here's an idea:

Neither of the next two classes to be announced are going to be a Paladin, or a Rogue. Why? Because Blizzard has explicitly stated that neither of the next two classes are going to come from the previous games.

In response to this, Jay did say that but many people agree that the Wizard was a Sorc replacement and he defended the wizard by saying that these kinds of games come with certain archtypes that need to be filled, and I think that a majority of us, fans and creators, feel like the ranged character archetype needs to be filled in some way or another.

And who says we have to use arrows? :wink:

edit:
I do agree with the paladin thing though, and believe that a shapeshifter coooould be more likely.

HorseRotovator
14-08-2009, 00:23
A nonsense argument, if you ask me. This is not a reason for not putting a whole class in, and Dervish is not "complex" at all. Most pple can understand and pronounce the word easily.

I believe what Jay Wilson meant was that the term 'Dervish' might confuse people at first glance because it's a very specific cultural reference, and that simply changing the name to something more generic would make it more accessible to new players. I agree with you that most people could pronounce it, but I agree with Jay that most people couldn't understand it.

In my original post in this thread, I predicted that one new class would be the 'Monk', formerly known as the 'Dervish', because I love the concept of a desert-wandering ascetic mystic, and I think one of the new classes will preserve the concept in lore, just not in name.

HorseRotovator
14-08-2009, 00:37
In response to this, Jay did say that but many people agree that the Wizard was a Sorc replacement and he defended the wizard by saying that these kinds of games come with certain archtypes that need to be filled, and I think that a majority of us, fans and creators, feel like the ranged character archetype needs to be filled in some way or another.

And who says we have to use arrows? :wink:

edit:
I do agree with the paladin thing though, and believe that a shapeshifter coooould be more likely.

Cool. Yeah, I do think there will be a ranged class (of some sort), probably just called 'Ranger', but with its own lore and background. I just don't think you could say the name 'Rogue' in D3 without it being the same class that was in D1.

Oh, and by the way, we're totally breaking the rule for this thread: 'Don't try to explain or defend' lol

Mad Mantis
14-08-2009, 10:57
wow, I wrote NEST two classes. I'm an idiot.

Fixed that for you.

CTH
14-08-2009, 12:39
demon hunter - a melee class with a little bit of demon in him

some kind of crossbow class, a guess :)

sirBeReN
14-08-2009, 20:13
Based on what you just said..
I don't bet, but I'd like to see a class based on genoese crossbowmen, inspired from their looks in the Medieval2 TW game:
http://totalwar.honga.net/images/m2tw_1.03/unit_info/milan/genoese_crossbow_militia_info.png

It could be a nice alternative for ranged classes. Crossbow and light melee fighter. From that point and after, you can develop your imagination, according to the character's background.

captain
14-08-2009, 20:58
I feel a merc. will show up next. We already have two magic wielding classes. What kind of merc? I could see them bring in a assasin/zon, they would have the ability to set traps and partake in a good malee attack.

The other class I'm hoping to be a bard/ pally. They could be a formally trained soldier with lots of weapons skills. But over the last few years has been hiding in a tavern to forget about all the trouble he has seen.

captain
14-08-2009, 21:11
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b319/eefen_beefen/Diablo3-ArtworkTrailer_US001_0030.jpg

This guy could be a class. I never saw him before. It might explain why they couldn't use a npc for him during development.

blackbisket
14-08-2009, 23:52
1,assassian/amazon mix, like a med fighter with a bow
2.Zelot, a holy tainer cless with Light energy attcks/Heals/Buffs

vagrant
15-08-2009, 08:46
I'm going to have to go ahead and say what a lot of others have already said. Classes #4 and #5 will be a ranged bow user and some form of holy/light element magic user such as a Cleric or Paladin. I'm also going to say that the first expansion will almost definitely have a rogue(WoW)/assassin(D2)/Monk(D1) class.

To determine what classes are coming up is pretty simple. First of all nearly every RPG has certain standard class roles that they have to fill. In this case when dealing with demons and undead you have to have a pious character that deals in holy and light-style magic. Secondly if you just take a look at the items that drop in the game you can narrow down the options quite a bit. Are there bows in the game? Then there will be an archer type class. It really is that simple.

Kalara
15-08-2009, 19:30
4) A desert archer/ light, fast melee hybrid

5) A darker knightly character. Orderly instead of chaotic like the barbarian. Possible shapeshifter or just magic wielder.

LordOfStrategy
16-08-2009, 00:15
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b319/eefen_beefen/Diablo3-ArtworkTrailer_US001_0030.jpg

This guy could be a class. I never saw him before. It might explain why they couldn't use a npc for him during development.

That is a wraith.

Sir Mister
16-08-2009, 00:36
I'm sorry, I can't resist just a little bit of justifications in here as well...

Ranger
Not because I want it to be, but because it makes the most sense. Since Amazon and Rogue are tapped out, and yet you need the ranged archetype, and since it would be easy, as Blizzard already has that class in another game to draw on...

Demonic Shapeshifter
Will be the last announced class, b/c announcing it would give too much away. Believe shapeshifter b/c of the previous comments regarding the character being impossible to use placeholder art with it, and believe Demonic b/c it would fit with my theories as to the plot of the game (topic for another thread)

GunPowderScarrab
16-08-2009, 03:10
1 Daemon = Shapeshifter-healer/support

2 Hasisi (arabic for assasin) = Long Range class-stealth/illusion

:yes:

NASE
16-08-2009, 08:15
I'm going to have to go ahead and say what a lot of others have already said. Classes #4 and #5 will be a ranged bow user and some form of holy/light element magic user such as a Cleric or Paladin.

That first one doesn't count. There are way to much ranged bow combination to make such a vague bet count. You need to pick one of the sub classes. Ranger, hunter, assassin, dII amazon, pure archer,...

vagrant
16-08-2009, 08:52
That first one doesn't count. There are way to much ranged bow combination to make such a vague bet count. You need to pick one of the sub classes. Ranger, hunter, assassin, dII amazon, pure archer,...

Funny you should say that because I almost editted my post to say the same thing. I guess I couldn't really pick a specific ranged class because there is so little difference between them in my opinion. However, if I honestly had to narrow it down to a specific type of ranged class I guess I'd go with a cross between WoW's hunter class, specifically beastmastery specced, and D2's magezon. Essentially a ranged pet user/summoner with enchanted arrows/bolts. If there is one thing that D3 is so far lacking it is a class that uses pet(s)/summons as predominantly as a Necro does in D2.

SEANBCOOL
16-08-2009, 22:41
1. Hunter/Ranger -- Ranged attack, archer type character who relies on dexterity and cunning over strength and force.

2. Cleric/Monk -- Hand-to-hand combat combined with magic use. Focused more around quickness than power.

DemolitionSquid
17-08-2009, 01:48
I place my bets on Rogue and Knight.

Kalara
20-08-2009, 05:16
Well we have our first view of the desert Alcarnus so my vote for a desert themed archer is looking more likely :smug:

emopanda
20-08-2009, 06:41
My predictions are:
1)A spear class hero like the act2 merc

2)A rogue not amazon

stillman
20-08-2009, 13:27
And who says we have to use arrows? :wink:


We HAVE to use arrows, or there will be hell to pay!

D_TradeSs
20-08-2009, 16:42
1) Dante

2) Gnome paladin/crusader

Angel_of_Wrath
20-08-2009, 18:07
I too believe we will see the current iteration of a bow-wielding hero at blizzcon, since there will definitely be one. That leaves the ultimate speculation for the remaining 5th class (which should probably be the holy character, like a monk or sword/shield guy) until the next Blizzard event.

Two expansions allows for great story continuity. What if the ending for D3 is dark and the hero actually fails to save the world and by killing Diablo the lesser evils are set free? Then the expansion plays into that by releasing the dark xpac where you travel to hell, battle demon lords, Inarius, Belial, Azmodan. The new characters are the necromancer & demon shapeshifter. Hell is conquered, but reveals a twisted truth...

The second xpac involves the heavens and reveals the angelic traitors, members of the council (not including Tyrael) who have been puppeting the whole thing to destroy both hell and the disgraceful humans. The classes are paladin & some type of anti-necromancer holy summoner character... instead of skellies, they are holy spirits; instead of demon revives, there are archangels; instead of curses, there are buffs.

Noammr
20-08-2009, 22:44
I think it'll be the pole dancer and the hobo.

stillman
22-08-2009, 15:25
And the winners are...

a bard would be awesum! If they are gonna ad a bard I'd blindly take this char without even lookin' at the skill tree..

also, I like to see the monk comin' back.. i never played D1, so I dont know what skills the monk has, but just like a bard. - I'd take it blindly..

(yeh, bard and monks are cool.. any game ;P)

1. Rogue
2. Monk

Probably not both of them, but I bet with all the confidence in the world 1 of them will be.

I'd also like to see an occultist..


so, for me this would be

bard/occultist/monk

Exactly this.

And I would L O V E to see a skill like paladin's Charge come back. I know Barbarian has one, but I'd like a similar to D2 paladin's. Awesome skill for an "outsider" build...

Ranger
bows, crossbows, poisons, traps, espionage, Westmarch

Monk
polearms, exorcism, angelic trance, levitation, Kehjistan
(formerly known as 'Dervish')

Monk and Bard

1. Hunter/Ranger -- Ranged attack, archer type character who relies on dexterity and cunning over strength and force.

2. Cleric/Monk -- Hand-to-hand combat combined with magic use. Focused more around quickness than power.

I think it'll be the pole dancer and the hobo.

^The last one is close! He's got the pole/staff and he carries it like a hobo would. And he dances. Uh...2nd place for you.

CONGRATULATIONS. Many of you said "monk"


Blizzard, you low down sons of--
You said no other returning classes, then you go and use Hellfire's class idea. So do they endorse Hellfire now? We may as well add it to the series.

LaZeR
22-08-2009, 18:57
Yes! I win! (:

SEANBCOOL
22-08-2009, 19:43
Blizzard, you low down sons of--
You said no other returning classes, then you go and use Hellfire's class idea. So do they endorse Hellfire now? We may as well add it to the series.


They've always endorsed Hellfire. It's "the only authorized expansion pack" for the first Diablo game. But it is NOT an official expansion, and none of the game is taken into account in the lore.

Really, Blizzard has never done a Monk. Sierra has.

commonhumans
22-08-2009, 20:41
Didn't they also say no classes from Diablo 2 were returning? I don't think they said anything about original Diablo.

Telzen
23-08-2009, 08:27
Missed mine from page 3 lol.