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DmKEch
28-07-2009, 09:16
I have a wolf with a 39/399 grief, 20/20 poison monarch, 5/5 poison jalals, and, well thats basicly it, oh and 2 ss 17/18 lifers.

I was wondering, should i trade all of this gear for ghost gear? i am having fun on my wolf, but its getting repetitive. Just rabies, run, fury. my resists are HORRIBLE. i cant kill anything to do with magic dmg (excluding bone necro and hmerdins as i can usually kill them by rabies, run, fury)

Ghost seems kind of fun, i mean you have to hotkey a lot, not the same repetitive boring stuff. i have seen two AMAZINg ghosts. i was blown away and was inspired.

i did look at tenjie's guide. about 3 times. but i know i wont be able to fund the assassin without giving up my precious grief. I made it the first five days after i restarted diablo again. I know it is all personal preference, but i want to see some suggestions by the people on this forum :D
and to see if i can get full/near full gear with that. ive got enigma and thats about it.

Jinchuu
28-07-2009, 10:09
Don't do it imo, Iono how you have bad resis though. List what gear you wear and what your charms are.

DmKEch
28-07-2009, 10:25
k. + your reasoning behind the no?

DS Enigma
Grief w/ stormshield
VERY low tomb reaver w/ 2 sheals
20/20 poison monarch (still trying to get a death web.)
angelic ammy, ring
ravenfrost
gorerider
trangs / blood fist
string of ears.

i still need a higher d torch, mine's 15/14, anni, verdungoes and.. good rings. :|

Sass
28-07-2009, 12:51
personally, I'd prefer a ghost, but I'm a tad biased for the sin anyway.

Budget venom ghosts can be pretty awesome. They're also tend to have nice res, if that helps.

Jinchuu
28-07-2009, 15:15
k. + your reasoning behind the no?

DS Enigma
Grief w/ stormshield
VERY low tomb reaver w/ 2 sheals
20/20 poison monarch (still trying to get a death web.)
angelic ammy, ring
ravenfrost
gorerider
trangs / blood fist
string of ears.

i still need a higher d torch, mine's 15/14, anni, verdungoes and.. good rings. :|

Use Fort instead of Nigma, you'll lose a bit of runspeed (which can be made up through charms) to gain resis and a ton of damage.

Um your SS (if you don't have an Um use a pDiamond)

Get a Better TR (Eth 3 os)

Ditch the Grief for an eBoTDz

Definitely get some better jewellery

Use Arachs or a nice crafted belt before you stoop to using a dungos.


I'm not saying ghosts are bad (I played one for like 8 months and loved it, but once I tried a fury/rabies wolf I never touched the sin again) but you haven't really given the wolf a chance and with that sucky gear you didn't really have a good one so your experience wasn't what it should have been (wolves are ridiculously gear intensive but are beastly when you get good gear). Also look to fury more on your wolf, rabies is your secondary form of attack.

DmKEch
28-07-2009, 22:03
thats the thing though. if i use fort instead of enigma i wont have enough str.

Scudstorm
28-07-2009, 23:20
Put more into str or rebuild.

DmKEch
29-07-2009, 06:18
yeah but why should i not stop playing my druid for an assassin? :P im 50/50 i just want opinions XD

Sass
29-07-2009, 12:41
Why grief out for a botd O.o

Jinchuu
29-07-2009, 14:04
It's a faster weapon (the only IAS that matters on a wolf is what's on your weapon) and he'll need the stat boost and by using the switch trick (can use grief on this until you get a Dweb) when he applies rabies he'll still do a ton of damage. You didn't mention a helm but I'll assume you're using a Jalals (if not you better have some amazing rare pelt with sick mods on it).

So assuming 20 torch, 20 anni, 20 from Jalals,~ 40 from jewellery (get rare and crafted jewellery so you can do swaps when needed). Thats going to be 120 or more str (since you'll be using a rare or crafted belt it might have str on it too) which'll be enough to equip your eBoTDz (30 more stats there so you can slap on your SS). With really good gear you shouldn't have to put a single point into str.

Scudstorm
29-07-2009, 18:31
It's a faster weapon (the only IAS that matters on a wolf is what's on your weapon)

eBotDz is slower than even a 30 Grief Pb. You didn't take the base weapon speed into account.

Jinchuu
29-07-2009, 21:42
eBotDz is slower than even a 30 Grief Pb. You didn't take the base weapon speed into account.

PBs are crap for fury/rabies druids imo, range is the key to you winning a lot of your duels and a range 2 weapon is gonna get you rocked by ghosts, WW barb, smiters and other fury wolves. BoTD zerker will hit 9/5 fury which is the same as Grief PB.

DmKEch
29-07-2009, 22:57
http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=634251

quote Kiba:
EBOTZ has a chance of hitting in between its min & max damage.

Grief has the 350-400 damage added from the runeword. So if you have a grief with 400 Damage roll it will always hit at 400 thus creating more average damage then ebotd.

Jinchuu
29-07-2009, 23:59
^Everyone knew that already. Still as a shifter a range 2 weapon is suicide vs a lot of other melee, I'll take range 3 and 30 free stats any day.