View Full Version : Am I the only one planning on playing SP first before Bnet?
Clair de Lune
24-06-2009, 20:14
MP is too damn rushed, players compete for items, skip most elements in gameplay and just race to farm & lvl highest.
I like to experience the whole game like reading a good book. I love the lore, the theatrics and discovering things at my own pace.
In D1 & D2, I purposely played alone so I can read every townfolk's dialogue, check out all side quests, discover unexplored areas, be lazy in town, shop around, etc... I like to get myself immersed.
When I get D3, I know I'll play it first on SP. Watch the cinematics, interact with NPCs, take my time to check outcharacter skills & ladders, etc.
I'll probably beat the game 3-4 times with different classes. Then I'll hop on Bnet for MP fun. How about you? :thumbup:
The same here.
It is definately better to experience the game at depth that way the first time/times :)
DragonChi
24-06-2009, 20:25
i am ALL over SP. I will definitely do that first.
That's how I will do it as well. I enjoy exploring the game on my own and testing out different things before I start playing battle.net.
I think that people that play SP don't visit forums as much as those playing a lot of MP which means forums like this isn't entirely a good sample of the whole diablo community. I might be wrong about that though.
I will jump right on bnet the day it comes out, i will play the game with one charecter by myself and me and 3 of my freinds are going to make a second charecter to play with eachother. I can accomplish the ability to complete the game on my own, with out wasting the time offline. That way i have something to work with after i play through the story.
I'm not really that into playing online for the reasons just listed. I like going my own pace and exploring on my own or with my friends. Too bad there's no LAN. ):
Risingred
24-06-2009, 21:10
I'm with Ishtor. It's the same way I tried to do Diablo II but the servers were not in the best of shape when it was released.
I'll just play in solo passworded games and take my time doing whatever it is I want to do, but I have a guild of players that I've been running with since the days of Diablo 1 that I will probably play with after my first play-through.
Every bit of the game has to be experienced solo first, though, and I wouldn't have it any other way. I'm in for total immersion.
As long as your ping is ok, you can do everything you said by playing solo MP games (oxymoron in one sense, not in the other), which I'll probably do.
Starving_Poet
24-06-2009, 21:32
I'll definitely be playing single player and trying to de-compile the character data in attempt to help with the building of the requisite SP stash program.
Straight to battle.net with friends. Enjoy the story together.
CombatShrine
24-06-2009, 22:36
SP all the way
I can only hope we'll have ATMA making a return.
raveharu
24-06-2009, 23:04
Why not just choose to solo MP, because you can do trades with other players but choose not play with them. It's easier to get items that you want this way.
For me is certainly going to MP, because I just can't stand playing alone, it's so boring.
SP all the way here too. I won't ever be playing the game online.
But without LAN support, I'll be probably delaying buying the game for a while if by that time I'm hooked on some other LAN-offering game with my usual LAN buddies. We tend to buy together.
krzysztof
24-06-2009, 23:23
I'll definitely try my hand at both the single player and multiplayer mode - however I usually play the single player mode first.
As the OP said, multiplayer is rushed and all content that CAN be avoided WILL be avoided. I have no problem with this, because the competitive side is what keeps multiplayer interesting, but I also like to experience the game as the developers intended.
raveharu
24-06-2009, 23:29
As the OP said, multiplayer is rushed and all content that CAN be avoided WILL be avoided. I have no problem with this, because the competitive side is what keeps multiplayer interesting, but I also like to experience the game as the developers intended.
You can actually choose not to rush in MP by making password games, and thus solo the game. The plus side is you can choose who to join you in the game, and at the same time do trades with other players to get items that you want. It's killing 3 birds with 1 stone if you choose MP.
SP all the way here too. I won't ever be playing the game online.
But without LAN support, I'll be probably delaying buying the game for a while if by that time I'm hooked on some other LAN-offering game with my usual LAN buddies. We tend to buy together.
It's been awhile since the no LAN was mentioned, possibly it could be in the game come Blizzcon this year. We really won't know until the question is asked again.
It's been awhile since the no LAN was mentioned, possibly it could be in the game come Blizzcon this year. We really won't know until the question is asked again.
It's actually my question on the questions thread.
Personally I think too it's not set in stone yet and they may review the earlier announcement, since it wasn't very clear at the time either -- only that they didn't have plans for LAN.
I'm no programmer, but how hard would it really be to implement a LAN feature in a game like this? It doesn't seem like it would require too much to do it.
Kentalicious
25-06-2009, 01:12
I'm not really that into playing online for the reasons just listed. I like going my own pace and exploring on my own or with my friends. Too bad there's no LAN. ):
yes there is LAN... its the TCP/IP in other multiplayer
Risingred
25-06-2009, 01:13
yes there is LAN... its the TCP/IP in other multiplayer
Diablo 3 won't have LAN.
(but there's ways around that)
I'm no programmer, but how hard would it really be to implement a LAN feature in a game like this? It doesn't seem like it would require too much to do it.
Easy.
In the context of a SP game with battle.net support, implementing LAN is relatively easy. Most of the code is similar to what needs to be implemented for Battle.net.
Piracy.
The above is also the reason why LAN will most probably exist in D3 regardless of Blizzard deciding to not implement it. Any SP game with online capabilities will always be open to a LAN hack. The only thing needed is enough demand from the community for hackers to start working on it. And because the LAN feature is being controlled by hackers, it won't have licensing control or any other copy protection features. Many interested gamers will see no reason to buy the game and will go with hacked copies to play on a hacked LAN (my prediction). So, instead of reducing piracy, assuming hackers build a LAN hack, Blizzard decision to not include LAN will promote piracy.
Merchandising.
The absence of LAN promotes Battle.net. With B.Net 2, it is expected for ads and any other marketing mechanisms to be a good source of revenue and Blizzard promotion. This is my guess why there is little desire this time around to include LAN. It's not because of piracy (it always backfires) and not because it's hard (it's not).
Firvagor
25-06-2009, 03:26
Other than playing with a couple friends in private games, I think I'll ultimately end up in SP just to explore on my own. If I find out that there are Realms (if that's what they'll be called) exclusive items, I might play online just to take a gander at them, except if the chance of getting it/them is too low to be worth trying.
Depends on a few things but it mostly comes down to massive lag on bnet vs no trading between my chars. Either of which may or may not be the case at release but most probably the latter. Also, whether I can pull together some friends to lanparty together.
Risingred
25-06-2009, 03:56
Jay Wilson said that there is a shared stash. I don't know if those were his exact words, but it's pretty much a given from the way they've talked in panels.
Needlecraft
25-06-2009, 06:34
Playing through and experiencing a game with friends always provided me with much enjoyment. I don't think D3 will be any different for me in this regard.
I will jump right on bnet the day it comes out, i will play the game with one charecter by myself and me and 3 of my freinds are going to make a second charecter to play with eachother. I can accomplish the ability to complete the game on my own, with out wasting the time offline. That way i have something to work with after i play through the story.
Damn, that sounds like a good plan.
I already had in mind that I will go straight to battle.net. People might think that it is so rushed etc. but when D3 comes, it will be so new experience for so many people that many of us will take the first weeks quite slowly.
I will make char to bnet mostly because I know my friends will be there and I also know that most multiplayer games are the best when you get to play it from the release. Over time those multiplayer games and the community gets a lot worse and at that point there is no going back to the early days :(
Even if my first character goes a bit fast through the game I can always make and alt character and play the game really slowly alone.
Many interested gamers will see no reason to buy the game and will go with hacked copies to play on a hacked LAN (my prediction). So, instead of reducing piracy, assuming hackers build a LAN hack, Blizzard decision to not include LAN will promote piracy
Also what I think is that many "new generation" gamers who are used to play in big multiplayer communities and who also really only seek games with good multiplayer experience will buy the game and play in battle.net 2.
Easy.
In the context of a SP game with battle.net support, implementing LAN is relatively easy. Most of the code is similar to what needs to be implemented for Battle.net.
Piracy.
The above is also the reason why LAN will most probably exist in D3 regardless of Blizzard deciding to not implement it. Any SP game with online capabilities will always be open to a LAN hack. The only thing needed is enough demand from the community for hackers to start working on it. And because the LAN feature is being controlled by hackers, it won't have licensing control or any other copy protection features. Many interested gamers will see no reason to buy the game and will go with hacked copies to play on a hacked LAN (my prediction). So, instead of reducing piracy, assuming hackers build a LAN hack, Blizzard decision to not include LAN will promote piracy.
Merchandising.
The absence of LAN promotes Battle.net. With B.Net 2, it is expected for ads and any other marketing mechanisms to be a good source of revenue and Blizzard promotion. This is my guess why there is little desire this time around to include LAN. It's not because of piracy (it always backfires) and not because it's hard (it's not).
Ah, I see. I just find it strange that they would not implement a feature that many people support if it isn't some struggle to implement it. If it's like you said I seriously hope the rethink their decision. It's not like they won't get huge revenue from the game anyway.
I'm not really that into playing online for the reasons just listed. I like going my own pace and exploring on my own or with my friends. Too bad there's no LAN. ):
I just dont get it. since there is no lan play online you can play you on password protected games, it does not matter. If you are able to play online to me it makes no since not too. Even if you don't like the community, does not mean down the ord you would not change your mind, and wasted all that time.
Lan play is no longer needed with people having high speed internet, it highly more common now to reach the max amount of people playing in a game, without the trouble of everyone packing there stuff up and cramming into someones basement.
I am all for playing through the game in your own pace, and playing online will not change that, unless you want it to yourself. Your logic and reasoning does not make since to me.
GuardianHadriel
25-06-2009, 09:50
Cair deLune, How about a plain NO? But i think the best experience will be playing it on Bnet with ONLY my friends.
korialstraz
25-06-2009, 10:26
I will play alone at my own pace on Bnet unless the lag is too bad. That way I get to enjoy the game as well as having a character and some items to get me going on bnet.
Lan play is no longer needed with people having high speed internet, it highly more common now to reach the max amount of people playing in a game, without the trouble of everyone packing there stuff up and cramming into someones basement.
I am all for playing through the game in your own pace, and playing online will not change that, unless you want it to yourself. Your logic and reasoning does not make since to me.
Don't you think it's a difference between sitting by yourself at home playing a game with you friends or being in the same room playing with them? And the issue about lag is relevant.
You can play single player on b.net with no problem, can't you? ;-)
SlechtWeerBeer
25-06-2009, 13:57
You can play single player on b.net with no problem, can't you? ;-)
Unless you lagg like heck because there's millions of other people playing at the same time.
If my connection to BNet is fine, I'll start on BNet.
I do nothing but SP.
I just don't feel like playing with ~~Azzmazta~~ and his buddy Pimple-Skweeze.
I find the game difficulty is more suited for SP. If I can beat the game on hell diff solo then let's be honest 8 players does not offer any kind of difficulty factor.
And as for the story - I agree it makes a better experience to take your time through the game.
I just dont get it. since there is no lan play online you can play you on password protected games, it does not matter. If you are able to play online to me it makes no since not too. Even if you don't like the community, does not mean down the ord you would not change your mind, and wasted all that time.
Lan play is no longer needed with people having high speed internet, it highly more common now to reach the max amount of people playing in a game, without the trouble of everyone packing there stuff up and cramming into someones basement.
I am all for playing through the game in your own pace, and playing online will not change that, unless you want it to yourself. Your logic and reasoning does not make since to me.
Lan avoids lag, realm down etc, potentially immune to ISP troubles, allows players to work on their chars when an internet connection isn't available through SP, gives players more freedom to hack without risking bans and the only way to MP mods legally.
I will play alone at my own pace on Bnet unless the lag is too bad. That way I get to enjoy the game as well as having a character and some items to get me going on bnet.
This is exactly the way I have done it in the past and will run the game in the future.:thumbup:
Puckineh
25-06-2009, 20:05
i will never go on Bnet. i have no patience for immaturity cheaters and spam and no matter how good Bnet 2.0 is these issues are inevitable
and the biggest plus with SP is my hard work will not disappear if i decide not to play for a few months.. Im free to build characters and collect items for years without ever haveing to start over unless i chose to
The issue with no LAN with be solved one way or another so me and my friends will be playing together as we do now eventualy
Same
I'll most likely only play SP or if there's a way to connect to an Open Character type mp game I'd do that in order to trade a bit.
But would prefer an ATMA type program in game or 3rd party to do that.
ToonArmy
25-06-2009, 22:04
I will play alone at my own pace on Bnet unless the lag is too bad. That way I get to enjoy the game as well as having a character and some items to get me going on bnet.
I do the same but also play SP/Lan games at work.
Ghess ill just have to play SP now :(
I think you'll likely be playing single player on battle.net anyway. The point is that all single player achievements etc will be only online, sicne you can hack easier otherwise. The point is if you want to play alone or not, not so much if it's on b.net.
Blizz will make it so you will WANT to be online.
I have spent some time researching this, you can read more in my Battle.net 2.0 article series (http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/battle.net-2.0-article-series-reopened/).
Blizz will make it so you will WANT to be online.
I can understand this from a business perspective. However, Blizzard also assumed a clear compromise to provide SPers with a good and long term experience by both including SP mode in the game and by their own admission (see quote below).
Despite not wanting to play battle.net I can fully understand their desire to provide players with incentives to battle.net. I'm actually a lot more understanding of that now than I was even a couple of months ago. But I'm talking incentives, and not providing gamers with two false choices of which they can only choose one to have any hope of having fun with the game. Which is how I read that statement of yours.
We would say, and we say in our goals, that it's a co-operative focussed game. But that's not at the expense of the singleplayer game.
MP is too damn rushed, players compete for items, skip most elements in gameplay and just race to farm & lvl highest.
I like to experience the whole game like reading a good book. I love the lore, the theatrics and discovering things at my own pace.
In D1 & D2, I purposely played alone so I can read every townfolk's dialogue, check out all side quests, discover unexplored areas, be lazy in town, shop around, etc... I like to get myself immersed.
When I get D3, I know I'll play it first on SP. Watch the cinematics, interact with NPCs, take my time to check outcharacter skills & ladders, etc.
I'll probably beat the game 3-4 times with different classes. Then I'll hop on Bnet for MP fun. How about you? :thumbup:
Seeing as how the MP is going to be exact same as the SP, I'm not worried too much about it. I personally will be playing BNET as soon as humanly possible. I'm going to have my friends playing with me, and if they aren't around I'll play alone. But the game is a co-op based game so I'll likely be playing with other randoms.
Single player I'm sure will be fun, but I would only play it if it offered something more than what MP could offer, like more in-depth lore coverage. Other than that, MP will suffice.
lone_wolf
26-06-2009, 18:40
unlike some kind of strange event made bnet 2.0 a million times better then the current crap i will play diablo 3 single player and that is it. I had enough of playing games online even before i stopped playing diablo 1.
bots,duping, horrendus lag, random games getting shutdown, ladder reset etc heck the only way to get a worse experience whould be to play on open bnet (shudders)
I'm among those that'll start out playing solo in passworded B.net games -- the reason for this is it'll be nice to find a group to take down an act boss / etc. if I really get stuck, and eventually (i.e., once the game has been beaten on the 1st difficulty) I'll want to take my character into group play and don't want to start over on Bnet after doing so playing SP.
Also, of course, I'm hoping to be playing with my two good friends who are Diablo fanatics as well.
'm among those that'll start out playing solo in passworded B.net games
I'll be doing the same.
I'll play online, either with friends or by myself. Not letting pubbers ruin my first run through the game. I see no reason to play offline singleplayer though, why put a perfectly good character to waste?
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