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FreshMeat
10-06-2009, 23:27
Yo.

I have never seen ubers. I wont until I am much higher of a level as I play HC so things are MUCH slower in progression. I am building a summoner to fight them and will have all the curses.

I hear people using terror.

Anyone try using terror and then a HUGE level dim vision to freeze them in place? Does this work? Should one just use their huge level of dim vision if they have it?

I was thinking like 10 base points into dim vision. Trang gloves, vipermagi, shako, homunculus would give a level 19 Dim Vision. that lasts quite a while and covers the board just about.

Besides the "three", are all curses able to stick?

Also, is there a drain penalty for leech on meph/baal/diablo Uber?

Has anyone tried using a Kelpie snare on an iron golem or does the slow not work right on them? (hearing odd reports about chill factors being different)

Vitrael
11-06-2009, 18:00
If you cast Dim Vision over Terror, it will override. If you were to then case life tap, it would override that.

I have never tried casting Dim Vision over Terror, but in my experience Dim Vision will always stop mobs in their tracks, provided there is some distance between them and the nearest target (usually your summons). Since ubers minions can spawn right on top of them and stay near them, I'm not sure that Dim Vision would really help. My curses are pretty big (all about lvl15-20) and if I life tapped the uber I am pretty sure all the minions would start shooting again.

I have made Clegaw's claw and Kelpie Snare iron golems. I'm not of the opinion they work as well as Clay Golems. Gumby will slow a target if it attacks him or if it hits, whereas for Iron Golem it must hit to slow. Also, Golems can die pretty quick to bosses that attack them and you only get so many Kelpie snares. In my experience a 50%+ slow effect gumby is just fine, especially when coupled with cold and decrepify. Baal is hilarious attacking once every 5 seconds.

FreshMeat
11-06-2009, 18:13
ahh, thanks good to know.

Hm. they dont want to move away from their boss hm? I wish i could see a fight.

Vitrael
11-06-2009, 18:27
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNQ2fCngwtM

That's a Necro run of Uber Tristram. I am pretty sure whats happening there is Meph's minions are spawning and never getting out from underneath him. You can't see it under the 15 skellies and dozen Urdars.

FreshMeat
11-06-2009, 23:32
hm. a super high level of Terror might be better than dim vision. I thought there were waves of other badies crowding the town.

I also noticed the guy in the video had a crappy level of curses. kinda sad how he had to cast decrep like 90000x a minute. Makes me think that homunculus and maybe even blackhand key would be fine to do ubers with. Looks like the effects, the udurs (or pindle boys I hear), and the quantity really do the job.

clay golem, decrep, cold, kinda is what keeps the thing going. if decrep had a 3x longer duration in hell than this guy had, I think a HC guy would have more breathing room to heal and to move out of the way. The guy didnt even use angles or rocks to avoid spell damage. kinda lame.