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KillaMike
02-06-2009, 12:29
yup, sorc fun thinking of bming sorc, xD

bolts can get absorbed, lighting cant, fact, tested it too long, so dont bother argue with that xD

same with 50 dr, you still getting killed with your dr, just slower

i know you ccant sorb, or be bm with ES, causew all of that kicking in, after mana, so no point in wasting skill. no ES

gear question:

griffon 25/20, its killing off resist, + lighting dmg, nice but neglected. i think supirior to shako with FCR that needs to be kept at: 117 (bp)

amu: 2sorc 20 fcr nice adds. mara simply usless. 5 stats nice, res nice, but... hopeless

amu on swap: rising sun vs bugdins (in stash )

shield:

not sure which one better, 20/20 in monarch, Jewlers something ( more block and FBR )

shield: on swap: stormshield for DR

shield: on swapping swap: 3ptopaz with Lo ( ice dmg is neglected, and can be easily ignored, blizz sorc never problem for any other sorc, other wise, dont tele after them directly, or you get blizz on ya head )

armour: CoH for res ( like FoHers and such )

armour: Viper Magi for FCR

weapon: Wizzy xD

weapon 2: eschuta 3/25/xx/xx/-5light res

belt: arach vs sorc tgods vs other light dungo ve noobdins

rings: sojes for GM 2 whisp for BM with 2 raven (dfarft nn, cause you got rising sun ) or 2 fcr rings

gloves: trang for cold res or mage for mana reg ( who need that? xD )

question is, with this set up, you can have AT SAME TIME nice elemntal abz, DR, cold abz, and lighting, so i wounder if with this build, sorc can be trully bm and annoy everything. i know that hammers and necro doing magic dmg, but with this much of -res and if to have infi as well ( self wield ) they over stack should get to ~ 50 or such.

can this gear set up make sorc BM?

if no, i want to know how to make sorc a bmer, lighting does get pass all abz gear, like FB does, but inferno hudras and bolts does not.

help plz xD

korialstraz
02-06-2009, 21:00
You can be sorbed. In fact it's rather easy for any char, and a walk in the park for paladins. Trust me on this, I've been sorbed tons of times. The only difference with this build and mine is you got around -100% res or so? That's no problem to stack against. So hammerdins and necros who know how to stack will walk all over you. Windys can give you a hard time as well, and barbs will definately hit you hard, even with 50% DR.

If you want some numbers on res I'll be happy to provide them ;)

LLD
02-06-2009, 21:32
I guess "Misinformed" is spelled K-i-l-l-a-m-i-k-e.
Not going too bother posting any proof, its not worth it, but I will say this.
1) Lightning is absorvable.
2) Sorc's cannot be Ideal BM chars.
3) What in the good lords name is this sentence supposed too mean "i know you ccant sorb, or be bm with ES, causew all of that kicking in, after mana, so no point in wasting skill. no ES"

korialstraz
02-06-2009, 21:50
Sorry for OT but...

I guess "Misinformed" is spelled K-i-l-l-a-m-i-k-e.

That's just low. Just because it's an old game doesn't mean everyone knows everything about it.

Not going too bother posting any proof, its not worth it, but I will say this.

Then why post at all? Trying to start a flame war or something?

3) What in the good lords name is this sentence supposed too mean "i know you ccant sorb, or be bm with ES, causew all of that kicking in, after mana, so no point in wasting skill. no ES"

I'll have to give you this one, I can't make out that sentance :crazyeyes:

LLD
02-06-2009, 22:13
Sorry for OT but...



That's just low. Just because it's an old game doesn't mean everyone knows everything about it.



Then why post at all? Trying to start a flame war or something?



I'll have to give you this one, I can't make out that sentance :crazyeyes:

I am just responding in the same form that he greeted me into this forum, by telling me too delete my characters. Not trying too start a flame war on any accounts(I already threw away my fireman's Halloween suit) its just common logic that Lightning damage can be sorbed just like any elemental damage(save for poison of course).

korialstraz
02-06-2009, 22:18
I am just responding in the same form that he greeted me into this forum, by telling me too delete my characters. Not trying too start a flame war on any accounts(I already threw away my fireman's Halloween suit) its just common logic that Lightning damage can be sorbed just like any elemental damage(save for poison of course).

You joined in april, do you really hold grudges for that long?

What is logic to you may not be to some others (no offence here Killamike).

LLD
02-06-2009, 22:24
You joined in april, do you really hold grudges for that long?

What is logic to you may not be to some others (no offence here Killamike).

he provided no conceivable "proof" for his "Lightning isnt absorvable" shenanigans therefore I responded in turn. I tend too reply to people with the same amount of though that I see them put into the question.

And yes, I do hold grudges but that is irrelevant in this case.

korialstraz
02-06-2009, 22:30
Well whatever. Too me it looked like you just randomely lashed out at him for whatever reason without contributing anything. A simple "lightning can be absorbed" would've sufficed, and I already stated that. So I saw no reason for your post other than trying to flame/troll.

Uncle_Mike
03-06-2009, 00:21
You can report posts you find bad. I see no point to this discussion really, or the thread if the purpose is to make a BM sorc that can't be absorbed :)

Correct spelling is probably something people would appreciate here btw.

I'd also assume that logic isn't really a subjective term, something either makes sense or not.

Let's cut the OT here please, if you have any questions, concerns use PM.

KillaMike
03-06-2009, 09:12
LLD wb my old buddy that hates me, btw, flame was started cause your 1st topic was:

I am LLD


discuss

and i am like, wtf you own about

/OT

point of what i am saying, is there a point into making sorc with lods of abz/reduce and that has lods of -lit res?

cause i did try to hit barb with res and abz, he took abz off and my lighting did do dmg ( yeah, about 50 out of his 8k live :coffee: )

so, knowing that i can do dmg ( little, but nvm ) is there a point into making BM, or is it just a) too expencive b) easily neglected? i d try it oiut my self... but dont have enought $$$ to get gear and i dont like e-bay

and also, should i stick with old good bm bonemancer then? is that only non pala vs pala char left then? (dont bother saying bvc, you got slight chance of killing, just )

so, no point in this try? oh well, back to square 1, HATE GAYDINS

SlainByPain
03-06-2009, 09:23
The most effective thing you're going to get out of a BM sorc is using a rogue merc while utilizing the 200 fcr to teleport around, chugging juvs along the way.

In theory you won't die and maybe kill really bad players.

Well, it's annoying anyway.

KillaMike
03-06-2009, 09:37
The most effective thing you're going to get out of a BM sorc is using a rogue merc while utilizing the 200 fcr to teleport around, chugging juvs along the way.

In theory you won't die and maybe kill really bad players.

Well, it's annoying anyway.

what i had in mind is closer to: 1vs7 kill and keep them killing ( not nking ) till they got bored. i know that palas with lods of over staking res ( damn those 45 res shields ) can do that with ez, i know necros can do that with ez as well, cause they little magic resist. and over stacked normal res, so there is just no point in single element killing machine.

cause i did try 24k fb in barb face with 95% fire res.... was waste of my time ( or was it 90 cap? cant remember )

korialstraz
03-06-2009, 10:16
A BM sorc will probably be a waste of your time.

I think perhaps the ultimate BM char is a bone nec with lots of res and abs, max block and stacked minions.

KillaMike
03-06-2009, 10:23
A BM sorc will probably be a waste of your time.

I think perhaps the ultimate BM char is a bone nec with lots of res and abs, max block and stacked minions.

i was more of thinking boner, cause lods of dmg and you not spending time on "recruting"

korialstraz
03-06-2009, 11:43
I did suggest a bone nec, only use minions for extra defence.

KillaMike
03-06-2009, 11:46
suppose with all + gear its paying off very nicely.

yup, as usaul, bm elemntal sucks.

dudu rocks with fissure camping / tg xD might make on in new ladder :girly: