Best PVP build for....

[Jordanbcool]

Hammerdins and BvB's/BvC's? These characters seem to be the only ones that give my BvC any trouble. I was thinking of a bonemancer or a wind druid but can't decide which one would be better. I feel as if a druid would be stronger but that the necromancer deals magic damage. Plus a druid is harder to control with the constant resummoning of pets/spirit. I'm not sure. I've played a bonemancer before with great success but scraped him for my BvC. Now I'm considering bringing him back...

[wizAdept]

Hammerdins and BvB's/BvC's? These characters seem to be the only ones that give my BvC any trouble. I was thinking of a bonemancer or a wind druid but can't decide which one would be better. I feel as if a druid would be stronger but that the necromancer deals magic damage. Plus a druid is harder to control with the constant resummoning of pets/spirit. I'm not sure. I've played a bonemancer before with great success but scraped him for my BvC. Now I'm considering bringing him back...

Yup a nec does fine vs those two chars.

Bone necro should never lose to bvb. A decent bvc will give you a duel but you will still always have advantage against a barb.
A good hammerdin will still give you a good duel and keep you on your toes (this is pretty much true regardless of what class you pick) but you should be able to handle most np with a bone nec.

[moneymango]

So far i've found my blizz sorc does well against hammerdins. Es can take a couple hammers, and I just self blizz and walk right+ spam ice blast back. Average hammerdin dies in the first blizz/ice blast spam.

[sweetalmonds]

a hammerdin would do the trick

[Raith]

yeah blizz sorcs are imba if used right. xD

[Timmy]

yeah blizz sorcs are imba if used right. xD

A blizz sorc won't do any damage to a pro hammerdin with 37 x 20/5 :yes: And BvC are very good against necs. Leap + tele tri whirl so wouldn't use that.

Best build is imo a lame off screen shooting ES fire sorc. It's nearly impossible for a BvC to catch him and she can tank alot of hammers against hammerdins ( but you shouldn't get hit by staying off screen all the time )

[CrooklynDodger]

A blizz sorc won't do any damage to a pro hammerdin with 37 x 20/5 :yes: And BvC are very good against necs. Leap + tele tri whirl so wouldn't use that.

Best build is imo a lame off screen shooting ES fire sorc. It's nearly impossible for a BvC to catch him and she can tank alot of hammers against hammerdins ( but you shouldn't get hit by staying off screen all the time )
I know a lot of good duelers and none of them use 37x 20/5's on their hdins. Also what's a fire sorc going to do against the 'pro' hdin with all 20/5's in his inv. Most good duelers wouldn't allow you to just sit off screen and get hit by fireballs it sadly isn't that simple bvc also have tele and worse hammerdins have desynch and most of them have a nice little grief in the stash for when sorces get to be trouble. But to be quite honest you could make a worse char than a fireballer for this situation however, you still are going to have trouble with bvc and hdins if you make one.

Max block nec is pretty good against most chars with the unblock able damage recast able bone armor he's pretty versatile. Still might get beat by a good bvc but you should do well against hdins pending you avoid those invisible hammerfields.

Windys are real good as well but as you said they take a bit of getting used to and you probably still won't beat a lot (or anymore than you're used to) of bvc and hdins with it because it will normally just end up in a fire fight between their ww/hammers and your twister/minion stack.

[Raith]

im sure "pro" hdins use more skill charms than 20/5s.

[Timmy]

A good ES fire sorc can outtank a BvC if he wants to. She doesn't even need to play spray and pray. BvC won't win unless he uses mass sorb.

Against hammerdins they can outtank hammerdins . Pretty much the only way to win is indeed with a grief, but that still doesn't garantue victory. If you know how to play and have good aim, you can beat a desynced charger.

But the hammerdin turns himself into a weak hammerdin and weak charger which makes him more exposed to other players which is a bad idea for him to do in a 1 vs All situation. But a ES fire sorc can handle this.

And the best Hammer vs All = 37x 20/5. Some mix a couple of skillers but not alot ( like 3 to 5 max ) which makes Blizzard ( and Foh ) useless against them. The more skillers you add, the more life and resistance you loose, the more weaknesses the hammerdin gets.

[naequs]

no, bvc will just ow the sorc down to 1 life via bow or ww and then finish her off the same way
oh and btw hotties should be enough for any hdin to tank ES fire sorcs....

[mephiztophelez]

Hammerdins and BvB's/BvC's? These characters seem to be the only ones that give my BvC any trouble.
about the only way to have a hope against a proper BvB with a BvC is to use a widowmaker and play defensive-caster tactics.

you just will not win any other way. don't even bother trying. as for bvc vs bvc duels, why not throw on a high-block shield (whistans?) with 2x ravens and some dex boots/ammy? it might not be max-block, but it's often going to be more than your opponent has.

you shouldn't have major dramas with a BvC against hammerdins anyway. at least, i smash most hammerdins with my BvB (the ones i have trouble with are usually, but not always, hacking). just practise against them and you should be fine. doping up on extra AR is often a good idea.


A blizz sorc won't do any damage to a pro hammerdin with 37 x 20/5 ....

Best build is imo a lame off screen shooting ES fire sorc. It's nearly impossible for a BvC to catch him and she can tank alot of hammers against hammerdins ( but you shouldn't get hit by staying off screen all the time )

o.o

your being somewhat contradictory with those two statements. most hammys will throw on a dwarf and a pair of 'spurs at least against a fire sork.

imho: block-necs and block-windies can get the job done on BvC's and both are capable against hammys when played correctly.

[Jordanbcool]

I think I'll take an earlier suggestion and build a necro. I refuse to make any elemental character save a wind druid due to the constant BM sorbing going on in the realms.

Hammerdins mainly give me trouble because I'm afraid of running into invisible hammers. That kinda pressures me into running right into them anyways so probably the thing that I need to fix is to learn to relax a little when dueling them. However, I wanted to make another PvPer anyways in case I keep having trouble.

[Unbeliever]

A wind druid with good gear and alot of practice is a force to be reckoned with. I made one thinking it would be easy mode with good gear, I was wrong. It actually takes some skill and alot of practice to get good.