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sweetalmonds
22-05-2009, 04:50
so i need more damage that ds at 100% is 100% more total damage, the 15% can hypothetically be 15% more total damage. the cb and 15str also nice adds so if i don't need anything in particular from helm like dr or resist, i could use it instead of arreats or jalals for examples right? cuz it's just a little less ar u know but more damage i believe. but then i dont see anyone use it, in the field of bvb, or anything vs high life opponents that cb would be effective

Spinns
22-05-2009, 06:46
I've seen some bvbs use it but most of the ones that I've seen who don't use Arreats use a visionary modded crafted helm with high life and str mods and ideally 2 sockets.

Regarding druids I doubt any pure druid player would be caught dead wearing one since it's so ugly. I personally prefer Cerberus over Guface for melee v melee on a druid but it is definitely a viable helm and certainly has bang for buck

mephiztophelez
22-05-2009, 08:58
guillaumes barbs can work, but tend to have AR and defence issues. the mods on an arreats are just so hard to beat, guillaumes is a specific build choice.

i use a guilly face on my 50k charger. but then, he doesn't give a rats about wussy "defensive" mods.

crawlingdeadman
22-05-2009, 17:45
i use it on my 49 charger. until i need res then i swap in rockstopper.

LLD
22-05-2009, 23:16
Works very well on MLD's.
You can strap it on a nice MLD smiter,fury, charger or zealer.
Also I have used it on my HLD hybrid fury/rabies with an edc,gores, and those CB gloves who's name I cant seem too recall.

Raith
23-05-2009, 01:52
BvB uses this afaik.

Zelator
23-05-2009, 18:11
Main helmet along with CoA on a BvC.

LLD
23-05-2009, 18:45
Main helmet along with CoA on a BvC.

You of course meant CoA AND Arrets.

Kordova
23-05-2009, 20:01
my barb uses it,
total ds
31~ammy
20~sword
15~helm
15~boots

Zelator
24-05-2009, 14:33
You of course meant CoA AND Arrets.

No - Gulli. The mods are so damn juicy, it's used versus non-physical based opponents.

LLD
24-05-2009, 19:16
No - Gulli. The mods are so damn juicy, it's used versus non-physical based opponents.

Vs non physical based opponents your almost always going too want too use either the Arrets because of the "juicy" mods or a fcr circlet.

Zelator
24-05-2009, 19:51
Trangs + Arach = FCR covered. Arreats' mods doesn't outweigh 15% DS and 35% CB.

LLD
25-05-2009, 08:35
Trangs + Arach = FCR covered. Arreats' mods doesn't outweigh 15% DS and 35% CB.

No on both parts.

You will need higher fcr for some duels, especially a very defensive sorc.
When you do use a helm other than CoA you dont need the 15%ds and 35%Cb, those chars that you line up with that dont deal physical dmg ussualy get done in by one tight twi whirl, and for them Resists are >>>a small damage addition.

deathwinger
29-07-2009, 09:57
the damage gain from arreats +skills and +str will actually give almost exactly the same overall damage as the +15% deadly strike on guillaimes, given absolutely normal bvc gear (grief/beast/enigma/trangs/arachs). The damages literally come out the same

so when you use guillaimes vs arreats, ur trading:
54% AR
6% life leech
+30% all resistances
+5 strength
+20 dexterity
+150 defense
+4 leap
+2 iron skin
+2 increased speed
+2 natural resistance
+2 battle orders
+2 shout
+2 battle command

for 35% crushing blow.


It doesn't take a genius to see thats a horrible trade off. Unless you're dueling a 10k+ hp shapeshifter druid, arreats is strictly better than guillaimes

MYK
02-08-2009, 23:34
The damages literally come out the same

Given your complete and thorough analysis, how could I not agree?

...


ur trading


no u.

deathwinger
03-08-2009, 00:33
Given your complete and thorough analysis, how could I not agree?
...
no u

I've already done the calculations several times and its really arsing to have to copy/paste it or redo it every time some turdhole asks.
So you know what? enjoy some delicious copy/pasta:

Guillaimes Barb:
435 base damage
+180% damage from strength
+186% damage from fanat
+174% damage from whirlwind
+158% damage from mastery
=3471 damage with 89% deadly strike = 6561 average damage

Arreats Barb:
435 base damage
+185% damage from strenght
+186% damage from fanat
+206% damage from whirlwind
+168% damage from mastery
=3676 damage with 77% deadly strike =6506 average damage