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moneymango
04-05-2009, 06:38
It seems like my sorc is teleing slower than other people, when they have the same fcr. I noticed this against a nova sorc that was using infinity. I was teleing in a line and the other sorc easily caught up to me. I never stopped to attack or anything so I'm not sure how they caugh up. Was this person using a hack maybe? I've noticed it a couple times, but I really noticed it against this nova sorc.

Thanks for the help.

SeCKSEgai
04-05-2009, 07:11
If you're sure that you both match fcr then it's most likely a matter of latency.

fwing
04-05-2009, 07:20
what exactly is your fcr?

MysticDragon
04-05-2009, 08:28
A. You have high ping.

or

B. The other person is modding

or

C. She has more cast rate than you

TienJe
04-05-2009, 08:29
A. You have high ping.

or

B. The other person is modding

or

C. She has more cast rate than you
or

D. You are fat

wizAdept
04-05-2009, 09:28
or

D. You are fat

Fat fingers result in slower teleports. May also cause fumbling on hotkeys.

Moritz
04-05-2009, 19:46
or heavy bones :(

moneymango
04-05-2009, 20:03
My fcr is 117 (lightning sorc), and since the nova sorc was using infinity there is no way she can reach 200.

It could be my ping, it usually runs around 150 to 200 but it has jumped up to a high as 4200 this week.

SeCKSEgai
04-05-2009, 20:48
My fcr is 117 (lightning sorc), and since the nova sorc was using infinity there is no way she can reach 200.

It could be my ping, it usually runs around 150 to 200 but it has jumped up to a high as 4200 this week.


Like i said, its usually latency. If I go above 100 I don't expect to be competitive anymore - if I'm above that, it's very likely I'll have even more packet loss and shoot up even higher (ala 4000+)

moneymango
04-05-2009, 20:53
Any idea how i can reduce that?

SeCKSEgai
04-05-2009, 20:58
Stop downloading pr0n. But seriously, it's usually a matter if you're sharing your connection and your overall bandwidth.

Unless you've got a really big pipeline t3 direct or something, sharing your connection will result in noticeable drops - since I run an internal network in my house and have a limited cable connection (I believe mine is reduced beyond standard capacity) once another computer does anything bandwidth intensive like watching videos, I kiss any gaming goodbye until that user is done.

(Or I disconnect them from the router, but I'm not mean like that.)

moneymango
04-05-2009, 21:07
You lost me with all the computer talk. Im on my laptop and there is another computer on the same network. It is on but there is usually no one on it.

SeCKSEgai
04-05-2009, 21:37
basically both computers are sharing the internet connection - if both are using the said connection (ie one is unmanned but downloading anything fairly decent in size) the other will likely feel it (your laptop)

It depends on your total bandwidth (internet pipeline) - cable/dsl has a huge pipleline when compared to old school dialup. But with the data demand required by typical online gaming, your typical cable/dsl line will bottleneck.

You could always think of it in terms of water pressure. Say you have a limited amount of pressure that works fine by itself, but say someone takes a shower while you're taking a shower and the flow of water isn't as much as before.

Barloc
04-05-2009, 21:46
wondering what screen size your using too, 600 x 800 or 640 x 480. bigger screen gets you their faster of course.
Also, running DII in 2D instead of 3D helps with some performance issues.

moneymango
04-05-2009, 22:21
Alright well, what do you recommend for me to do to fix this whole situation. I'm running at 600 x 800. How, do i switch into 2d?

wizAdept
04-05-2009, 23:01
I doubt its a hardware latency issue unless your framerates are dropping very low and the game looks choppy.
If you are running on 600x800 thats good, use the edges of the screen when trying to tele large distances.


You are getting some latency from your connection with 150-200 ping, while d2 is certainly playable at that ping you aren't getting immediate responses like someone playing with <50 ping. This may account for your tele's getting delayed or failing to cast when you cast them.
Latency will vary depending on the speed of your connection to the internet, your distance from the server you are playing on (east/west/euro/asia) and how laggy the bnet servers themselves happen to be on that particular day.


Are you noticing you are teleing slower than everyone or just that one particular infinity sorc? There is a cheat out there that modifies base cast rates, allowing faster than 200fcr speed without the equipment. So you might have ran into one of those cheaters and not have been lagging much at all.

moneymango
04-05-2009, 23:38
Well, I've been having single digit fps with 20+ skip. No idea what those numbers mean, but i've been told that it was bad. But this wasnt happening when I was experiencing the slow tele. I've noticed it against multiple characters, but really put it together against that nova sorc.

Also, I tested my teleing speed against this nova sorc. We raced from cold plain back to town. I told him to start when he saw me tele first. So we should have reached town at the same time, or me a bit ahead of him. But he ended up reaching town atleast 3-4 screens ahead of me.

wizAdept
05-05-2009, 00:29
Well, I've been having single digit fps with 20+ skip. No idea what those numbers mean, but i've been told that it was bad. But this wasnt happening when I was experiencing the slow tele. I've noticed it against multiple characters, but really put it together against that nova sorc.

Also, I tested my teleing speed against this nova sorc. We raced from cold plain back to town. I told him to start when he saw me tele first. So we should have reached town at the same time, or me a bit ahead of him. But he ended up reaching town atleast 3-4 screens ahead of me.

single digit fps? you gotta be kidding me. thats bad lol.

I run the game at 160+ fps usually, no skip.
What happens in game is based on 25 frames per second, for example teleporting: 105fcr = 8frame tele
200fcr = 7frame tele
If your framerate is low your actions are going to be delayed, so there will be additional time your character isn't doing anything while the server is still waiting on your input, you may also experience failed casts with lag.
I am oversimplifying this but basically the more lag you have the more delay you have for your actions to come out. Having any skip is very bad for gameplay.

Even though d2 runs at 25fps in terms of actions done in game it can and will be rendered at higher than 25fps which is necessary for smooth gameplay, you wont get that at the bare 25fps even if you have no skip. For smooth gameplay with no lag I recommend 40~60fps at least, if not more.



Is your computer slow? d2 is an old game shouldn't be hard to render right.
Press esc -> go into options -> go to video settings: turn shadows off, turn all lighting effects to low. What mode are you running d2 in? directdraw or direct3d? try running a video test, should be in your d2 folder: d2vidtst.exe

d2 will also run faster in windowed mode (-w) than in fullscreen, although it may be difficult to duel in windowed because you can click out.

lastly, how lagged up is your computer? have you defragmented lately? do you have 200x adware/malware programs and other **** installed thats messing up and slowing up your computer? have you run an anti-virus scan? does your computer's graphic card and processor just suck? d2 is a pretty old game that should run on old machines fine as long as your computer doesn't have lag issues due to cluttering of programs/viruses/malware installed on it. Single digit fps is very very bad.

moneymango
05-05-2009, 00:46
I made the video changes you said. I am in window mode. Im using direct 3D.

Also my comp is somewhat laggy so im not sure what thats about. Ill run a defrag and virus scan and see if I can speed things up.

wizAdept
05-05-2009, 01:16
I made the video changes you said. I am in window mode. Im using direct 3D.

Also my comp is somewhat laggy so im not sure what thats about. Ill run a defrag and virus scan and see if I can speed things up.

Ya sounds like a malware virus or just too many programs installed on your comp that startup all the time.
Unless your comp is naturally very very slow + old. Even then its probably cause of too much clutter or some kind of virus. Doing a clean reinstall of windows and all your programs (backup all your personal stuff first) may be the only solution if a virus scan + defrag does not help your situation. That's assuming your comp is messed up from too many programs or some virus.

edit: or maybe just defraging and running d2 on low settings may fix stuff and make d2 playable. Good luck.

moneymango
05-05-2009, 01:24
Alright. Well thanks a ton for the help

SeCKSEgai
05-05-2009, 10:24
I can't help but wonder what the processor and video is on your laptop - It should have clicked in my head that you're running a non-gaming laptop which would explain the lack of rendering power - d2 is an old game, but most laptops aren't built with 3d performance in mind unless you specficially look for it when you make the purchase.

Barloc
05-05-2009, 13:46
for non-gamer/lower end laptops, 2D is where it's at for fps performance (at least as far as Diablo is concerned). The engine for 3D in diablo is kinda "funky". Consider a game like QuakeIII, which is nearly equal in age, but will fly on a similar laptop, with all performance enhancements pushed to max.

moneymango
06-05-2009, 01:30
I have no idea if my laptop is a gamer laptop. How do i run it in 2d?

AnimeCraze
06-05-2009, 01:53
I have no idea if my laptop is a gamer laptop. How do i run it in 2d?Doesn't matter whether it is a gamer's laptop. You lose virtually nothing running 2D, and the 3D engine is funky anyways.

To do so, use the video test that is provided in D2, and choose DirectDraw (and not Direct 3D) after it is done.

Barloc
06-05-2009, 02:02
oops- I was too slow.

whats the make and model of your pc? I'll google it. Running diablo in 2D is a selection when you run the video test. This can be found in your diabloII program files. Run the test, then select 2D ( it will recommend 3D always. Just ignore that).

I can't fix your ping, but your FPS will definitely improve this way.

Of course, There may be more issues going on that I am unaware of, and I don't understand all the reasons why an old game like this won't run well on machines that should be ALOT better then what was out there 10 yrs ago, even if the PC isn't top notch .

moneymango
06-05-2009, 19:53
I think my laptop is an acer 7730. I know it's an acer but im not sure what model.

Barloc
07-05-2009, 04:37
Gaming computers tend to have dedicated memory for the GPU. Your Acer and mine (which is not NEARLY as good as yours) use shared memory for graphics. I saw a version listed on Tigerdirect for "casual" gaming. But even still, like AnimeCraze said, DII has a funky 3D engine.

moneymango
07-05-2009, 04:54
Do you play on your laptop? I'm still getting single digit ping with 1x skip. Makes it kinda hard to play at times

Barloc
08-05-2009, 14:00
I do 100% of the time. It runs at a constant 60fps with a ping around 64(avg ping, sometimes lower, sometimes higher) which I have been pleased with.

moneymango
08-05-2009, 21:23
hmm so whats wrong with mine...

Uncle_Mike
08-05-2009, 21:34
No idea but it's certainly not PvP related...

Try the bugs and suggestions forum or the community forum, but that's not really a thread suited for PvP.

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