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zazafci
25-03-2009, 21:29
Before I even start, Im a lod convertee so be less harsh with critism :whistling: this ladder I made an orb soso following akukami's guide and had bo only low lvl barb with a hammer who kills cold immunes. This is how I did it basically:
At norm + nm soso owns easily, so no need to worry here.
At hell, when facing cold immune, I log out with my barb and log in with my hdin and kick cold immunes' ***.
When making long rushes(soso+barb or hdin+6 lvl1 guys), using hdin is hard, because lvling hdin is a pain in the *** for me.
So, instead I thought of making my barb more powerful, ww is great but it lacks power when facing a few monsters, I checked the other options and concentration barb seems more logical (at least for me xD ).

Am I missing something or bo+concentration barb is better than bo+ww barb when facing less monsters?

note = I will use crappy items, like 2sigons for 10% ll and 2deaths for 8% ll and 2angelics rings + angelic armor for good ar, bonesnap(cheap) replacing 2x 2bo sticks, and filling resistances with giving more points to natural res.

edit: total list of items Im gonna use:
iratha amu, iratha gaunlet, iratha helm
angelic armor + ring, second ring will cathan(6% ll) if I have way too much ar.
sigon boot + belt, for 10% ll.
bonesnap, replaced with 2x 2bo sticks.
when bonesnap equipped Im gonna have full cold+fire res with 30ish maybe 40ish light+poison res (4 or 5 points to natural resistance)
edit2: when I think more about it, I may use sigon glove + belt and hotspur boots, this way I'll have 90% fire res with still getting 10% ll from sigons, this way it will be more powerful when fighting against travi...

FireMarshal
25-03-2009, 23:53
I'm not completely sure what you are asking? Are you asking whether you should use Concentrate or WW?

If so, WW hands down. Even against a single monster. You will have a tough time in Travincal without WW.

IMO that is...

zazafci
26-03-2009, 09:29
yeap, I was asking using whether ww or concentrate. So, will that barb own travi or I will have to make a low gear hdin to beat them?

WarlockCC
26-03-2009, 09:59
In classic, WW always hits the highest breakpoint, regardless of weapon speed or IAS.
4fpa WW with a martel makes for a very clean Travincial.

Mind you, even with very serious gear on, I also need to draw the council out a few at the time and kill them on the square. If I go in WW'ing, my poor barb will be slain.

Vodage
23-04-2009, 23:19
I was thinking about this as well. Concentration attacks can't be interrupted, so I figured I'd make it a lancer. I could even skip on IAS if I got enough damage. But I probably would still use 30% ias on gloves, unless I needed iratha glove//helm for more res. An uninterruptable attack means you don't have to worry about FHR at all, as long as you keep attacking. Lancer has good range as well which *could* help u not get hit as often, but Idk-- maybe get a rare lance with knockback, haha.

But yeah it would be a weird char. I gotta try it tho. It's in the works but I have more important builds to work on.

*Vodage
*Sir_Vodage

(UsWest Ladder)

WarlockCC
24-04-2009, 10:12
Well, let us know how that turns out, personally, I am a big fan of builds which are different. :)

Akse
26-04-2009, 12:10
It will be pain in the butt to try to level up a lancer or any barb without WW :P

Vodage
29-04-2009, 03:45
A more versatile concentrate barb would switch btw twitchthroe//shield (either 3 diamond or 20/30 pris depending on if u want more res or faster block...)

And battle hammer as weapon-- as a more defensive setup-- plus since I'm not maxing shout (idk if I'll have points for iron skin or what) I won't have high defense. But say I get into a run with a barb with high shout? Ok so high def res armor and martel. Idk though, I think i'd want my barb to use a shield and a battle hammer. Concentrate would still make up for slow hammer speed-- plus with 30%gloves and twitchthroe it wouldn't even be that slow. Idk though-- I mean if I'm maxing BO, I should go for a battle hammer and AR gear to keep my str and dex relatively low. That way I can have stupid hitpoints. I think that would go better, plus I have an extra twitch now that my 86 bowa is rockin' the rattlecage.

Oh and if you like weird builds you should see my 84 sacrifice paladin in action. He has like 40% life steal equipped right now... hehe