A Powerful and Easy CLVL 9 LLD Build Guide

[HegemonKhan]

this is NOT my build, all credit goes to warlock and others, who actually came up with this build.

the sources i used for this come from:

LLD mk2 thread (or whatever it called) and ~ around page 5 (too lazy to post exact link to it, at the moment)
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*needs hell rush to be most powerful. all character boosting quests.*

the clvl 9 healer-smiter LLD build:

stats:

57 str, rest into vit.

skills:

max into prayer, at least 1 pt into smite, at least 1 pt into fire resist, at least 1 pt into cold resist, at least 1 pt into thorns. rest of sk pts where ever u want. i recommend putting in fire resist, cold resist, or smite.

gear:

full sigons, gnasher, nagel rings, civerb amulet. with shopped 2 socket spiked shields in reserve, if u really need them. these 2 socketed spiked shields have flawed gems (clvl 5 req) in them (standard gems have too high a clvl req at 12). for example, a 2 flawed ruby socketed spiked shield, a 2 flawed saphire socketed spiked shield, etc.

how to use:

1. in general:

keep prayer active, walk, and smite away at them. using full sigons (including sigon shield).

2. against elem users:

u can have resist fire or resist cold auras active for more resists (sorry no lightning resist aura at clvl 9, unfortunately).

also, u can take off gnasher for elem resist weapon (like felloak for lightning resist, but than u lose gnahsers open wounds and crushing blow which helps greatly to kill them, and maybe u can't without it if still using sig shield anyways)

also, u can remove sig shield (but u lose its ~37 damage returned and 7 damage reduction and other bonuses) for 2 flawed gem resist spiked shields. spiked shields do more smite damage too.

3. for more smite damage:

remove sig shield (but u lose its ~37 damage returned and 7 damage reduction and other bonuses) and replace it with a 2 flawed skull socketed spiked shield.
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this build can be taken to higher clvls for different and better gear and more skill pts and skills, and more stat pts and thus life, and thus a more powerful build. stat reqs of your character (how much str/dex u put pts into) would probably change for a higher clvl build.

[TraderScope]

Hmm, does this build really work without cleansing (tested?)? I think one would run out of mana fast.. even my lvl 14 healadin with cleansing is a heavy mana consumer.

[HegemonKhan]

this build works well, prayer works very well, long as u duel people who don't do a lot of damage and do it faster than your heal rate.

being that it works against clvl 30 people (though mostly noobs only), i'm sure it can pretty much win any lower clvl duel, baring the more powerful skills....

i guess i'd say it can win almost anything under clvl 18 (though chargers can be difficult). though this is a very loose statement, don't mistake it for anything else.

the prayer seems to work fine...though not sure compared to cleansing/meditation....

YES it does use mana...but meh...there's mana pots..and it's actually not that bad...it actually doesn't consume mana that bad...its pretty slow drain actually..and u only need to mana pot a few times... depending how long it takes u to kill them :D

and at clvl 9...no charge that eats up mana. so i only have to mana pot when prayer takes mana down to near zero (a work around to not life potting:P..hey i'm not life potting...but don't mind my mana pots to restore my mana for prayer which does give me life back...lol)
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tested? -traderscope

YES, I HAVE THIS GUY MADE AND AM USING HIM IN DUELS. HE PWNS !!!!

(though still working on getting all the quests, in nm and hell. only need nm izual, and all hell quests still) and he does very well, and that's not even taking into account he's only clvl 9.

[WarlockCC]

What people will see is your life suddonly returning due to you taking a mana pot, rather then the constant flow that cleansing generates. So they will (imho rightfully)accuse you of potting.

I wonder how he would do against a level 9 double swinger with a complete act 3 flail, Gnasher, greyform, high ar nagels, isenharts helm, Bloodfists, gorefoot and I can't quite remember the belt, might have been rare with res and atd, who's also allowed to pot(life) :)

[Fists of War]

ooh, maybe I'll get my lld gear back off FireMarshall and duel you.

Alternatively, if you see him on tell him that if he doesn't need my gear anymore, just grab it off him and put it somewhere.

[HegemonKhan]

What people will see is your life suddonly returning due to you taking a mana pot, rather then the constant flow that cleansing generates. So they will (imho rightfully)accuse you of potting.

I wonder how he would do against a level 9 double swinger with a complete act 3 flail, Gnasher, greyform, high ar nagels, isenharts helm, Bloodfists, gorefoot and I can't quite remember the belt, might have been rare with res and atd, who's also allowed to pot(life) :)

actually, i rarely have my life less than 100%, laughs. they can't do enough damage to even lower my life down.

meh, i am a LLD at clvl 9, so cleansing not an option anways. and i can rightfully defend myself, saying that "i'm only clvl 9, what are u complaining about, you're clvl 30" :D

i'd love to see how this (healer smiter) build and that (double swing) build would do against each ohter ! unfortunately west realm is completely barren of LLD as far as i can tell.
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looking forward to it fistsofwar !

i need an actual REAL LLD opponent to see how good or bad this build really is.

though don't count on me rememoring to tell fire to giv eyour gear back to u. i got bad memorry.

[WarlockCC]

Well, HegemonKhan, you could always head over to Euro NL. I think I have most of the stuff for your build spare there. LLD with a smiter is not affected by ping anyway. :)

I think, if your build where to duel a level 12 cleansing build yours would lose even if you have a belt full of mana potions vs the cleansing pala not having any.

[HegemonKhan]

ya, i'd think so too... against a higher clvl, better and stronger version of myself...yes i should lose, lol, but meh how many people are there who of the build....on bnet... :D

well, i'm getting the build idea out there, as i win again and again against higher clvls with my clvl 9 !!!! *hehe* *grins*

[Fists of War]

I also want to see a clvl 9 Jabazon. I reckon they wouldn't go too bad. Maybe sacrifice, poison dagger, or any of those fairly unused skills. I've tested most of them before, but I really can't remember how well they did.

[HegemonKhan]

i'd love to have a bunch of different LLD builds made and see how well they do against each other and/or higher clvl builds.

i'll eventually do so my self even if i'm the only one. i'll take on this project myself if need be. this (LLD) is a new aspect of d2 that i have NEVER tried before. so i'm really excited and interested even if the rest of d2 players have already tried and done LLD, it's completely new for me and exhilerating and a enjoyable challenge trying to make LLD's which i have no experience with.

[Fists of War]

You should leave this 'til next ladder (or at least the bulk of your "new" llds). And then we can each make a few and duel them.

I want to make a level 12, 16 and 24/25 smiter. A level 9 jabber. Level 29 bowazon.

I want to make a level 8x smiter as well.

But all of that after the upcoming (probably not heaps soon, but still coming) reset.

[WarlockCC]

ya, i'd think so too... against a higher clvl, better and stronger version of myself...yes i should lose, lol, but meh how many people are there who of the build....on bnet... :D

well, i'm getting the build idea out there, as i win again and again against higher clvls with my clvl 9 !!!! *hehe* *grins*

Well, you could make your prayer pala level 12 or higher if you wish, you'd still lose to the cleansing pala, because you'll run out of mana potions, while the cleansing pala's healing does not depend on potions.

[Fists of War]

Well, you could make your prayer pala level 12 or higher if you wish, you'd still lose to the cleansing pala, because you'll run out of mana potions, while the cleansing pala's healing does not depend on potions.
Angelic rings/ammy/armour is a huge benefit as well.

My ideal lld at the moment would be: (level 12)

gnasher
2 skull spiked shield or 30/20 spiked/bone
death's gloves/belt
angelics as mentioned above
3 ruby mask
maybe some rare boots or something

max prayer, 1 cleansing/charge/rez auras, split rest between smite/might

You can smite+cleansing, and then switch to charge+might if they run.

[WarlockCC]

You should try damage reduction some time, as I suggested earlier, nagels, greyform and isenharts helm.

[TraderScope]

Angelic rings/ammy/armour is a huge benefit as well.

My ideal lld at the moment would be: (level 12)

gnasher
2 skull spiked shield or 30/20 spiked/bone
death's gloves/belt
angelics as mentioned above
3 ruby mask
maybe some rare boots or something


This is what my gear currently looks like on my lvl 14 healadin but I am using Sigons Shield instead for the +1 skills, the downside ofc is the STR req on it. With this setup however, I am a bit running out of mana at times so I thought maybe I should socket 3 skulls on my great helm? Oh and my boots are currently Sigon's (set bonus(2) 10ll and 50AR).

[fledgeling]

I had a level 12 cleansing pala for a very long time, as well as a level 11 defense pala (906 def) and I wouldnt say that such a character stands any chance vs a decent charger..

[Fists of War]

Yeah, chargers are pretty much king, especially if you can swap out that lance/mart/maul for a warhammer/shield against other chargers.

@TraderScope: If you're only using sigon's boots for the 10 leech and 50 AR that's not too good, because smite is auto-hit, doesn't leech (under normal conditions) and cannot be blocked either. Or are they your other sigons part that gives the shield the set bonuses?

[TraderScope]

Yeah, chargers are pretty much king, especially if you can swap out that lance/mart/maul for a warhammer/shield against other chargers.

@TraderScope: If you're only using sigon's boots for the 10 leech and 50 AR that's not too good, because smite is auto-hit, doesn't leech (under normal conditions) and cannot be blocked either. Or are they your other sigons part that gives the shield the set bonuses?

I'm using the Sigon's boots because I don't have better and with the shield it at least gives me some AR to boot (the set bonus from 2 pieces). I usually don't smite that much though, only to stun then swap back to normal attack. Am I doing something wrong?

[HegemonKhan]

highest clvl i killed: 50 (noob and didn't have full gear on)

just did a 1 (me) vs 6 (of about clvl 10-20): they couldn't touch me (couldn't take away any life from me)

[Fists of War]

I'm using the Sigon's boots because I don't have better and with the shield it at least gives me some AR to boot (the set bonus from 2 pieces). I usually don't smite that much though, only to stun then swap back to normal attack. Am I doing something wrong?
I assumed you were only using smite, so disregard what I said :)

Maybe a smite+zeal build could work, smite for stun and then zeal for damage.

[fledgeling]

Does the "damage reduced" mod decrease the amount of damage caused by "open wounds" mod?

[HegemonKhan]

don't ask me... no idea...

[Fists of War]

Open wounds is simply negative life regeneration, so I'm almost 100% sure it doesn't.

[Sheezo]

lol, awesome build. Made one recenty using this guide (haven't done any skill quests yet, can't wait to see how good it is then) People complain i'm "glitching, hacking, or potting"

highest so far i've beat is 35 nec

[HegemonKhan]

yes, the whining of the sore losers, is constant....

and when those sore losers are around clvl 30 or some times even higher, their whining amplifies.

and often they go get chanted....and come back to duel and gloat when they win.....with their 2000+ fire damage against your ~75% FR and 185 life .......

L-O-S-E-R-S-!!!!!!

[WarlockCC]

Prayer heals at the same speed as cleansing, so why not go for those three extra levels just so you don't have to depend on potions. :)

I tested with my level 90 healer if prayer combined with a nightsmoke, angelic amu and howltusk(105% dtm) would simply return all the damage I take as mana, which would then flow back from my mana bulb to my life bulb. Well, that does sort of work. Unfortunately, it works at the same speed as cleansing and meditation, but without the mana regen of meditation or curse length reduction and minion healing of cleansing.

[HegemonKhan]

my reason at staying at clvl 9 is because IT IS the lowest u can duel (hostile) at and that is what i wanted. my goal/purpose was/is to make the easiest and (so far. though i have yet to face a real LLD foe) "best" duel character (which means the lowest clvl possible that can win against, not only other clvl 9's, but also quite higher clvls too).
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and btw,

i now feel that adding skills to fire and cold resist is the way to go with your last/remaining skill points.

i had forgot that when u have the resist auras active u get: +1 slvl of resist aura = +1 to max resist. compared to when using passive it's: +2 slvl of resist aura = +1 to max resist.

[Applekid]

People's perception of the US West LLD scene contributes a great deal to the lack of LLD present there!!!!

LLD'ers, stop underestimating LLD in US West; your words are more powerful than you realize! I personally have three accounts of well-abled LLD, and I know that my three brothers also have a good amount. I think if LLD games were a little more prominent and attended, West could have a thriving LLD scene in no time, flat. Nevertheless, the perception that US West is devoid of LLD causes people to avoid LLD in West-- it's a self-perpetuating curse I hypothesize is propelled by the lack of the big boys that used to dominate the US West scene: Sculpy, Seth, Chris, Q, etc. I'm still here, and keepin' it extremely real! Someone join me! If you want to start even a level 9 in Classic US West, I will personally rush and help gear you lol (resources and time permitting).

I think that if more people actually paid attention to West and TRIED to LLD there, it would be a lot more fruitful than just avoiding it altogether. I teach newbs/noobs/neauxbs/nubs/neubs/neiubs to LLD all the time, and they eat it up. I know Aerodynamics/Psalms/New.Testament is still kickin with LLD, and so am I, and my brothers, and lots of other capable duelers, and we all inspire up-and-comers!

Let's get something going instead of being apathetic about it!

[Applekid]

It's been a fact for quite some time that smite in very low level dueling is mathematically superior to all other builds (damage/seconds ratio reigns supreme ftw), so why not try something else? Winning all the time is cool, but when it's guaranteed, somehow it just loses its luster. Try applying your ideas for damage reduction, magic damage reduction, damage to attacker, +max/min damage to other builds and classes, and see what you get. . . . I did, and I was pleasantly surprised (sometimes ;))

I made a level 19 melee zon, a level 19 melee nec, a 20 melee tank sorc, and they were a lot of fun, also decimating a bunch of noobs, and even some experienced characters. I also made a level 21 bonespear nec recently, and he's awesome. I have an ear from a level 54 paladin in my stash, murk'd by yours truly, eB-DeepDarkness, your un-friendly, neighborhood-watch clvl 21 bs nec :D

[Applekid]

btw... open wounds and cb are independent of dr, but atd is subject to it