Rare items

[ElrondMcEnz]

hey its me again^^,

so i have a question again. where can i find well rare items by gambling or by killing the bosses?! And where is the best gambling place?!

greetz

[deichsela]

Gambling is based on character level.

Killing act bosses with the glitch is the easiest way to get rares.

[HegemonKhan]

gambling:

1. ONLY affected by clvl (character level)
2. in general the higher your clvl the better chance at getter better stuff.
3. at clvl 86-99 (including 86), you can gamble amulets that can have the +2 mod on them. this is one of ONLY 2 ways to get an amulet with +2 mod on it. the closer u are to clvl 99 the better your chance of getting the +2 mod on the amulets.
4. items ALWAYS appear as normal items (NOT exceptional) in the gambling screen. this has NOTHING to do if u get a normal or exceptional when u gamble.
5. u CAN gamble exceptionals, rares, sets, and uniques, but the odds are very low, as well as the common magical gambles u normally get from gambling.
6. u can NOT get magical, rare, set, unique throwing weapons (javelins, throwing axes, throwing knives), not even from gambling. they do NOT exist on classic. the best u can get is 15% EDmg mod on them.

shops (non-gambling):

1. each town (act), shop, and difficulty offers certain item types (none of the normal difficulty act 1 shops will ever have light plate in stock for example).
2. the mods on the items ARE affected by clvl.

item qualities:

NO mf for best chance of these qualities dropping from monsters:

normal (white)
exceptional (white)
socketed (grey)

more mf the greater the chance of these qualities dropping from monsters:

magical (blue)
rare (yelow)
set (green)
unique (bronze)

item types:

short sword, hand axe, pike, lance, great sword, rune sword, mage plate, war boots, ornate armor, etc....

for godly rares (yelow):

1. glitched hell diablo is best
2. hell cs (chaos sanctuary. diablo's area) is good too
3. hell cow king is good
4. hell cows are good too

for sets (green) and uniques (bronze):

1. glitched or the more mf the better act bosses. do different bosses and difficulties for different uniques or sets. the set or unique u want determines what act boss and difficulty u do.
2. cow king is very good too. any difficulty. glitched (if u can) or higher mf the better.

for socketed (grey):

cows (cow area)

1. normal cows gives u the least # of sockets in the socketed (grey) items.
2. nm (nightmare) cows gives u 3 socketed hats (the most hats can get) and 3 socketed shields (the most u can get). they can drop 3-4 socketed weapons.
4. hell cows give u exceptional 3 socketed hats and 3 socketed shields. they give u 6 socketed weapons (the most weapons can get), both normal and exceptional weapons.

about socketed (grey) items:

1. there is NO socketed (grey) body-torso-chest-armor in classic.
2. high defense hats and shields, like bone (normal) and grim (exceptional), can ONLY get 2 sockets. spiked (normal) shield and barbed (exceptional) shield can only get 2 sockets (i think, but maybe they can get 3).

[TraderScope]

I could add that not only Act bosses like Act 1 Andariel, Act 2 Summoner and Act 3 are good for finding uniques and sets they are also good for getting very nice rares, fast.

The highest monster in game is Diablo like Hege wrote and from him you can with luck get a nice +2 amulet. From Diablo amongst seal bosses in Chaos sanctuary you could also find a higher quality weapon over 180 enchanced damage, which is a bonus in running him - to hope for a godly one..

Other great place to magic find is Travincial, where one can hope to find the best weapons in game if they get lucky. The monster and quality levels of councils protecting the way to Durance of hate is also enough to drop over 180ed expectional weapons, like Diablo and the seal bosses in CS.

NOTE: Affecting the drops are: Magic Find Value (the more the better) and monsters levels (both quality level and the actual level of the monster). For example you can't expect over 180ed expectional quality nagas, Execs, Martels, Becs or Ancient Axes from Andariel or Mephisto, altough they can spawn VERY good items. This is because their quality level isn't high enough (this is only for the statistics).

One more thing is glitching. Read the stickied guide on glitching :)

[HegemonKhan]

nice addition traderscope.

ya like traderscope said act bosses are good for rares too. though they can't drop the godly/dream rare exceptional weapons/armors that hell council members, hell cs, hell diablo and maybe hell cows and hell king can (can anyone test or know about hell cows and hell king ??). however, this doesnt mean, that u shouldn't run them for rares. as u can still get good rares, just not the best. hell andarial has kinda weak rare weapons though (and as i just found out how/why hell andarial can't/doesn't drop the "higher end" exceptionals from traderscope's post above, TY traderscope !!!), at least with my albeit limited runs with him.

ah i left out hell council members as being able to drop the top EDmg stuff since there was still a debate about it.

traderscope, are u sure that hell council member can indeed drop the top EDmg ?

and if they can, can they drop the "high end" exceptionals with the top EDmg, also ?

there was a debate as to whether hell meph can or not ? do u know ?

also what about hell cows and hell king ?

[TraderScope]

traderscope, are u sure that hell council member can indeed drop the top EDmg ?

and if they can, can they drop the "high end" exceptionals with the top EDmg, also ?

there was a debate as to whether hell meph can or not ? do u know ?

also what about hell cows and hell king ?

Ok, I'm trusting that the Travincals councils can actually drop those items because I have read people founding them and many do seem to comp that. I can't say that I know this as a fact as I haven't found any 180ed "high end" weapons myself yet.

As for hell cows - I have no idea.

BTW: Here's one "uninteresting" hell Mephisto drop under 180ed that I saw someone posting on another forum: http://www.ninefrozentoes.net/D2/Screenshot006.jpg

[HegemonKhan]

hell duriel droped a ~165% EDmg and ~220% AR claymore sword (obviously this doesn't help us know if duriel can drop high end exceptionals at this % EDmg or not).

and duriel isn't that fun to find on bnet/mp.

(i found this in sp. where the maps stay the same. as long as u don't make different difficulty games)

though maybe one could make hell act2 rush games:

this would certainly get people who need act2 (as act2 rush is the biggest road block in getting to hell cs) to join. also these people may have the staff and amulet and thus would be able to tell u which is the right tomb.

this is the only way to be able to rush duriel effectively in bnet/mp. (though hopefully the join'ers are too stupid to see that they can't complete duriel quest cuz than they probably jsut leave....)

if u have a friend or means to playing two characters at once, than u could have 1 char who needs duriel quest make the game and than u see what is the right tomb with him. than use other char to do duriel. u'd ahve to have the first char who needs duriel to than leave game or go to act 1 to not get duriel quest completed. so u can use him over n over to know the right tomb.

[zaxien]

BTW: Here's one "uninteresting" hell Mephisto drop under 180ed that I saw someone posting on another forum: http://www.ninefrozentoes.net/D2/Screenshot006.jpg

lol Ray's old mart


I have yet to find a 180+ed weap from meph but have found quite alot of 180+ed normal items.. ofc this doesnt help in any way form or fashion..

[TraderScope]

Here's some fresh evidence (someone found this today in EUscl.) that the king's mod can indeed spawn on a martel dropped by the councils :)

http://i40.tinypic.com/2m6n1gh.jpg

[FireMarshal]

Here's some fresh evidence (someone found this today in EUscl.) that the king's mod can indeed spawn on a martel dropped by the councils :)

http://i40.tinypic.com/2m6n1gh.jpg

GFG!!!

If only it had LL, then it would be GFGer!:crazyeyes:

[HegemonKhan]

awesome!!!

now can anyone find evidence for such an item from hell meph or not ???

(hell meph had controversy over whether he could drop kings mod on high end exceptionals or not)
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hey fire, let me know when u doing hell trav runs....and hopefully we come across two such rare weapons as traderscope so we each can have one...

i want marts or other exceptionals like this one just posted !!!!!!!