Soso idea help plz..

[tcpgeest]

How would a soso work.. using only % mana and + mana items.. 105 fcr/86fhr/max block..and using mana/life gc's..

Obviously damage would be sacrificed alot.. but you can easily get 2k+ life.. and god knows how much mana..
You could prebuff es.. cuz without using skillers lvl 40 is not attainable..
How much FB for example.. would a fire soso need to be competitive.. at bare minimum?

[SeCKSEgai]

Max block and 2k life.... are you saying 2k life with cta bo? or straight up? I don't see it happening with max block. Even with charms, you'd be dumping a ton into dex for blocking, even with a good blocking shield, and your blocking wouldn't protect you from the magical attacks. You could technically hit lvl 40 without skillers, but you'd need to dump about 20 hardpoints to do so, and have very specific plus gear items and a torch.

You'd also want to maintain a proper ratio of life to mana. If you're thinking purely pvp, while I've never been fond of it in d2 high damage has always been a priority. You may not land many hits, so the ones you do land need to count, unless you jump in a ffa and go after people after someone else...

[tcpgeest]

Yes 2k life with bo..don't forget mana charms can have 45 life...

I also have a 9 es memory..
So only + 11 would be needed.. but I'd like to refrain from maxing ES..
That is why orb is maybe better.. you wouldn't have to sacrifice dmg then..
With a fb sorc however.. dmg is certainly not a priority..
You can win just as easily with 12k then u can with 20k+..
It's all about block/fhr/life/mana/dr/resists etc..
If u can namelock efficiently... u need twice as much fb's as normal.. if you kill ppl with 3.. it then takes 6.. which means only 1 second longer.. it's very doable..
Ofcourse this is without sorbing.. no sorc can win against mass sorb..

Whistan's requires only 160 or so dex at lvl 90..so it's doable 350+ points in energy..

What would you say.. is the absolute MAX mana attainable.. regardless of other goals..

Edit:

What would be the absolute MINIMUM fb damage needed to stand a chance in pvp.. assuming good skills and no sorb?

[SeCKSEgai]

Keep in mind while 45 lifers are possible, you have to be practical. There's a reason they go for so many hrs, and they really are that rare. It's hard enough to find/roll a skiller with 45 life, let alone with the skill you need (same goes for life/mana gcs).

Damage is always a priority in pvp - because of damage reductions to players, and most fights are over within a few hits - the drawn out ones mean a lot of evasion (read teleporting) going on. Fireballs move at a decent speed and can cast nicely, but mobility (ie ability to avoid) is common for anyone relatively serious about pvp. Sure, telestomping targets is an option...

When I think of life, I only consider the red bubble. While the blue bubble is essentially life for an ES, if the red runs out before blue, it didn't matter. Can't forget about the stuff that ignores the blue bubble altogether either...

Max mana isn't really relevant. Basic math would be 1 stat = 2 mana.

[tcpgeest]

For me getting 45 lifers is very practical..

However I'm not gonna spend stuff and later find it blows..
That's why I need to know what the max attainable mana would be..
And how much FB dmg is required at a bare minimum to be able to win duels..