Poison Bowzon

[Domeno]

A few years ago i had a bowzon with 24 100 poison dmg over 5sec charms. It was extremely powerful in pvp and pvm. I've recently come back to the game and was wondering how effective a set up like that would be in 1.12? I've read that poison damage is too slow but the people posting those comments were referring to just a few poison dmg charms in inventory. I believe the way to go is massive amounts of charms in inventory. I would like to do 32 451dmg over 12sec poison small charms or either 32 175 dmg over 6sec poison charms. Seems like that would be any where from 11,200 to 14,432 poison damage over 12sec. Even after resists it sill would be a lot of damage, enough to clear a players health bulb in a few seconds. All you would have to do is "make contact with any arrow". Any thoughts on this?

[ginNtonic]

It would be pretty sweet with Infinity for the -resistances. Also so you could "break" the poison immunes. It can't be impossible without crazy runewords though. hell I'm in act 2 with a HC pure bowsin. the only real trouble is the poison immunes.

[Kijya]

Infinity doesn't lower poison resistance.

It does work in pvp, but I'd personally prefer dumping 40 points to get max poison&plague javelin and use those. May be harder to get a hit in against some builds but you needn't give up the max/life/frw/etc charms.

[Domeno]

Infinity doesn't lower poison resistance.

It does work in pvp, but I'd personally prefer dumping 40 points to get max poison&plague javelin and use those. May be harder to get a hit in against some builds but you needn't give up the max/life/frw/etc charms.

You can get 175 dmg poison charms that have frw, hit recov, 20life, etc. also....

How much dmg does poison javelin do? Is it as much as that many charms?

My thoughts on bow was you can hit someone a lot easier from a lot farther away.

[Kijya]

You can get 175 dmg poison charms that have frw, hit recov, 20life, etc. also....

How much dmg does poison javelin do? Is it as much as that many charms?

My thoughts on bow was you can hit someone a lot easier from a lot farther away.
Correct, you can have poison/life (not sure how high the poison can go on those though), but then you have to go from using those high poison damage charms to ones of lower damage.


32 * 451 = 14432
32* 175 = 5600


Maxed plague&poison javelin with just the +skills from torch and anni give you 10k plague over 12.2 seconds. It's lower range then the bow, and harder to get in a hit with in most cases, but the cloud lingers for a moment and you preserve maximum physical damage.

[MuffinMan]

You can get 175 dmg poison charms that have frw, hit recov, 20life, etc. also....

How much dmg does poison javelin do? Is it as much as that many charms?

My thoughts on bow was you can hit someone a lot easier from a lot farther away.

A random pubbie poison java should be expected to do at least 80k on 18-20 sek (Plague). A bit higher on Poison Javelins than Plague, but at a duration around a minute or so.
100k+ numbers are not uncommon.

[Domeno]

Correct, you can have poison/life (not sure how high the poison can go on those though), but then you have to go from using those high poison damage charms to ones of lower damage.


32 * 451 = 14432
32* 175 = 5600


Maxed plague&poison javelin with just the +skills from torch and anni give you 10k plague over 12.2 seconds. It's lower range then the bow, and harder to get in a hit with in most cases, but the cloud lingers for a moment and you preserve maximum physical damage.

The 175 dmg charms are over 6 seconds, so that would be

32*175 = 5600 in 6 seconds which would be 11200 in 12 seconds.

so you could have stats on top of it as well....

[Kijya]

The 175 dmg charms are over 6 seconds, so that would be

32*175 = 5600 in 6 seconds which would be 11200 in 12 seconds.

so you could have stats on top of it as well....
I see, well I just stated my opinion on the matter, feel free to make a poison bowzon as you see fit. I was just saying how I would do it :cloud9:

If it helps you should be getting +4 further skills from titans making it 16k over 13 seconds, add a facet to the ss and you've got 17k. It'll still be the lower ends of plague damages of course, but if you throw in some java skillers it'll increase further. But then again, the point in going for plague was to not use inventory space for poison so guess skillers are a no go :whistling:

As muffinman said getting really high damage on the java skills isn't uncommon at all. However, getting 17k while maintaining highest damage physical bow damage is still sweat I'd say, assuming you can live with spending the extra skillpoints.

[stillman]

Watch out with the charms if you decide to use multishot. The 3/4 weapon damage penalty also applies to all elemental damages like from charms.