Glitching vs MFing

[serendipity]

Is no mf for glitching better (OVERALL) than with mf? Or is no mf just better for finding rares (and MF+glitching is better for finding uniques)?

If that is the case, wouldn't it be better to make a nm glitcher with mf and a hell glitcher without mf? Because you can get most uniques from NM andy/meph and it's better to get rares in hell because of the nice mods. Am I correct in assuming this? Thanks a lot.

[serendipity]

Oh, I also had a question about glitching andy. In order to glitch andy properly, do you have to go through HER portal and not one created by a player? (Of course afterwards you immediately talk to Warriv and go to Act 2.) My friend told me this and it seems to be working for him, but I made a couple of glitchers without doing this and it isn't working so well. (I am using lots of MF on the ones I made without going through HER portal and I am finding half blues, 1/4 rares, 1/4 uniques I think.)

Sorry for double post, I meant to edit my first one.

[FireMarshal]

From my experience, in order to use a glitcher, you want NO MF.

[HegemonKhan]

(i believe i got this information from the diii.net wiki's item generation section)

# of drops is based on a point system. more points more drops. 1 pt for killing monster (duh). 1 point per player in game. 1 point per player in party and within 2 screens of killed monster. however, i do NOT know how many points mean how many drops. total points: 1+8+7= 16 points (obviously 16 drops does NOT exist, so it's NOT a 1 pt to 1 drop ratio, duh). i have many times seen 6 drops. not sure if i seen 7 or 8. but 16/2=8, 8 is close to 6 (duh). so the ratio seems to be: for every 2 points ~ = 1 drop. (~ 2 pts/1 drop)

there's 4 "quality" of drops. "quality" 1 drop is the worst. this occurs when u kill a normal (white named) monster. "quality" 2 drop occurs when u kill champions/uniques. "quality" 3 drop occurs when u kill super uniques (including act bosses) NOT for a quest (glitched) drop. "quality" 4 drop is the best. "quality" 4 drop is known as the quest drop. only a some of the super uniques (including ALL 4 act bosses) can quest drop. the quest drop is done repeatedly by using the glitching technique. the reason "quality" 4 drop (the quest drop) is so good (all or almost all: rare/uniques/sets=depending on mf) is because it has the highest chance of NOT having the "NO DROP" choosen.

glitching will yield almost always ALL RARE drops (with NO mf) (with mf, than instead of rares, it's sets/uniques). if u get mostly or all magical (blue) drops, glitching did NOT occur.

to get a glitch (quest) drop the glitching character MUST get the kill (duh).

for example:

a baroned character makes a hell cs run game. a lord character joins the game. if the lord character kills diablo (glitch, aka quest drop) with NO mf, all or almost all rares will drop, and he will be able to do it over again (as long as he doesn't complete diablo quest and become baroned). if the baroned chacter instead kills diablo (normal drop), than all or most drops will be magical (blue) (EX-cluding his mf amount effect on it).
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for.....

1. rares: glitching (hell diablo is best) (not too many monsters can be glitched and u can't complete quest/progress in game with your glitching characters)

2. uniques/sets: glitching + mf + act bosses (can do some other monsters too, but generally act bosses are best)

3. sockets: NO mf + lots of normal monsters (cow area/cows are good). nm cows drop 3 socket armors (armor as in NON-weapon gear like hats and shields, NOT the body-torso-chest armor) and weapons. hell cows for 6 socket weapons and highest chance for exceptional socketed weapons and armors.

4. cow king: gives high end mods for the area level/monster level/difficulty. can also be a very good source for rares/sets/uniques (glitch for rares. glitch + mf for uniques/sets. if u can't glitch, than u need mf for rares/sets/uniques.)

how to glitch cow king (if he can be glitched. not sure):

probably, the only way, is to NOT have completed the diablo quest (the diablo quest activates cow quest), and kill cow king with that character. once u activated the cow quest (by completing diablo quest), there is NO way to glitch the cow king (aka do quest drop over and over) since killing him completes the cow quest for everyone in the cow level (the dreaded "i can't make cow portal anymore") who has the cow quest activated (not sure if it completes the cow quest if u haven't activated the cow quest yet).

5. sojs: glitched + mf hell andarial

how to glitch andarial:

andarial can NO longer be glitched on the 1.12 patched bnet by the special way (complete andarial quest and simply go to act 2 BEFORE u leave/quit game). andarial CAN still be glitched using this special way in single player though.

to glitch andarial on bnet is the same as diablo or meph. simply do NOT complete the quest. u do this by joining games where u can't complete the quest since the maker of the game already had the quest done, which causes it to be UN-completable by u.

[WarlockCC]

Andy Glitch :
Step 1 : Get Andy quest
Step 2 : In the same game you got the Andy quest, go to act 2 before leaving the game.

Doing whatever else you feel like doing in that game will not affect your Glitch status.

[HegemonKhan]

i read that the 1.12 patch removed this special way of glitching from bnet play. i don't know if it's reliable or not.

[deichsela]

^^^ I glitched my Hammerdin last weekend. Gets quest drops from Hell Andy just fine.

[Fists of War]

Andy Glitch :
Step 1 : Get Andy quest
Step 2 : In the same game you got the Andy quest, go to act 2 before leaving the game.

Doing whatever else you feel like doing in that game will not affect your Glitch status.
I know this method is true, but I've also heard of another method:

- complete every quest in act 1 *in order* and then kill Andariel, possible also avoiding talking to NPCs.

[HegemonKhan]

alright than whoever/wherever i read that the patch removed the special andy glitched method is wrong or it was only for LOD.

[TraderScope]

Warlock had it right :)

[WarlockCC]

I know this method is true, but I've also heard of another method:

- complete every quest in act 1 *in order* and then kill Andariel, possible also avoiding talking to NPCs.
If you don't talk to any npc's you cannot get to act 2 and you will not be glitched.
What I posted above is the only thing you have to do to get bugged.
So the only way to avoid getting Andy bugged is :
1 Get the Andy quest
2 leave game before going to act 2.

That is the only thing you can do to avoid being Andy bugged.

[FireMarshal]

Andy Glitch :
Step 1 : Get Andy quest
Step 2 : In the same game you got the Andy quest, go to act 2 before leaving the game.

Doing whatever else you feel like doing in that game will not affect your Glitch status.

Ah bummer! I wondered why it wasn't working on my newly created barb. Some dude came in and ran Andy, while I was in the quest process. That must have screwed it up :weep:

[Lorg]

Ah bummer! I wondered why it wasn't working on my newly created barb. Some dude came in and ran Andy, while I was in the quest process. That must have screwed it up :weep:

Lucky for its the best place to mf with barbs :)