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HolyHammer
05-03-2009, 18:47
If I have for example a 160ED Eth Titans (Exceptional Weapon), and I cube it with Lum, Pul, and a Perf Emerald to make it an 'Elite Weapon', does the ED get re-rolled? Or will it remain 160ED?

I know that the non-variable modifiers will remain as they are.

Thanks!

Battlesnax
05-03-2009, 18:52
the ED stays at 160% and will not be re-rolled.
From arreat summit:
This formula changes the base item type from the exceptional to elite version. For example a Cleaver is turned into a Small Crescent. This does NOT convert the item to the Elite Unique version of the Exceptional Unique Item. Unique item bonuses remain the same; only the item it's based on is upgraded. This can be used to upgrade Ethereal Items also. They will continue to be Ethereal after they are upgraded. You cannot do this formula unless you are using a Ladder Character. Also if the item is socketed, then jewels or runes and their mods will also remain.

Overall physical damage will increase because it will be 160% ED on Matriarch javs, not the weaker ceremonial.
Here's a calc to see what the dmg will go to:
http://www.theamazonbasin.com/d2/resources/d2weapons.html

HolyHammer
05-03-2009, 18:55
Yeah, thats how I read it too when I looked it up.

But I have to wonder because I traded a 220ED Eth Shaftstop earlier this ladder, and the person I traded it to said he got a bad roll when he upped it. Any idea what he may have been talking about?

NASE
05-03-2009, 20:35
normal armour that have enhanced defence have a base defence of their maximum+1.
For God knows what reason, this doesn't apply when you upgrade an armour. So it's not the ed that is rerolled, it's the base defence.

As an example:
A normal Dusk Shroud with ed will have a base defence of 467+1 = 468. If you however upgrade one from a Ghost Armor, you will have a base defence of somewhere between 361-467.

Note that this may result in a decrease in defence depending on the items and the roll and that this applies to all equipment that has defence.

HolyHammer
05-03-2009, 20:56
Aha! Me understands now, thanks!