Classic Barbarian Thread

[HegemonKhan]

table of contents:

1. post #1 (this one): table of contents
2. post #2: information, stats, and skills
3. post #3: Builds/guides
4. post #4: reserved for whatever is needed/comes up

[HegemonKhan]

information and stats:

http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Barbarian

skill short info:

http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Barbarian_Skills

the skills:

1. http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Barbarian_Combat_Masteries
2. http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Barbarian_Combat_Skills
3. http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Barbarian_Warcries

starting stats:

life: 55
mana: 10
stamina: 91
str: 30
dex: 20
vit: 25
nrg: 10

per clvl:

life: +2
mana: +1
stamina: +1

per stat point:

vit: +4 life, +1 stamina
nrg: +1 mana

max stat pts at clvl 99:

+490 (98 x 5)

max stats from quests:

life: +60 (20 x 3)
stat pts: +15 (5 x 3)
skill pts: +12 (4 x 3)

max stats at clvl 99:

life: +196 (98 x 2)
mana: +98 (98 x 1)
stamina: +98 (98 x 1)
stat pts: +490 (98 x 5)

life: 251 (55 + 196)
mana: 108 (10 + 98)
stamina: 189 (91 + 98)

str: 520 (30 + 490)
dex: 510 (20 + 490)
vit: 515 (25 + 490)
nrg: 500 (10 + 490)
(can ONLY have 1 of the 4 stats at max. the 3 others would be at their base amounts)

life: 2211 (251 + (490 x 4) )
mana: 598 (108 + (490 x 1) )
stamina: 679 (189 + (490 x 1) )
(can ONLY have life+stamina or mana at max. the other would be at their base amounts). (without quests)

life: 2331 (251 + (505 x 4) + 60)
mana: 613 (108 + (505 x 1) )
stamina: 694 (189 + (505 x 1) )
(can ONLY have life+stamina or mana at max. the other would be at their base amounts). (with quests)

max stats from gear:

life:
mana:
stamina:
str:
dex:
vit:
nrg:
(can't have all at once)

max stats from gear at clvl 99 with all quests:

life:
mana:
stamina:
str:
dex:
vit:
nrg:
(can't have all at once)

skill pts at clvl 99:

98

skill pts at clvl 99 with quests:

110 (98+12)

[HegemonKhan]

http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=611653
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MF (magic find) builds:

1. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=606771
2. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6668829
3. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=567711
4. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=679178
(this is more about frenzy, but has some initial mention about mf'ing)
5. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=536582
(a HC hell council members and hell cs mf berzerker guide and discussion. see corn's posts on page 1 and 2)

MF pure (NON-monster killer) popper (find item) builds:

1. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6711920#post6711920

GF (goldfind) (can also have/use mf gear too at same time) builds:

1. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=717272
(both fire marshal and deichsela have posts/guides on the thread/link)
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hell cs glitched hell diablo godly rares "MF" builds:

1. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=715254&page=2
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WW (whirlwind) builds:

ww in cs (chaos sanctuary) faq/tips/info:

1. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=674803

pvm (player vs monster):

1. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=406257
2. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6879958
3. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=702530

pvp (player vs player):

1. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=353083
2. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=342041
3. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=353083
4. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=342041
(is a ww speeder)
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Singer (war cry) builds:

pvm:

1. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6946758#post6946758
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Berserker builds:

pvp:

1. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=392728
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bvb (barbarian vs barbarian) builds/guides:

1. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=405056
2. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=708881
3. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=707527
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LLD (low level duels) builds:

1. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=708191
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frenzy builds:

pvm:

1. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=679178
(mentions about mf'ing too)

pvp:

1. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=710109
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double swing builds:

pvm:

1. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=712470
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throwing/double throw builds:

pvm:

1. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=701414
(could be pvp too)
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iron/concentrate (iron skin+shout+concentrate+high def) barb builds:

1.
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bash builds:

1.
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leap attack builds:

1.
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leap builds:

pvp:

1. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=701518
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speeder (max movement speed. frenzy+incr spd+60% FWR gear) builds:

pvp:

1. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=685572
(both frenzy and/or ww user. but ww AR is low due to only being slvl 1, where frenzy is slvl 20)
2. http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=342041
(is a ww speeder)
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stun builds:

1.

[HegemonKhan]

reserved for whatever else is need/comes up
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people may now post all they want whatever they want in this thread. though be on subject and helpful please.

[deichsela]

WW is broken and hits at 4 fpa, even when chilled. One thing I've been wondering is: Does two weapons increase WW's hit speed 50% to 2.7 fpa or is it so broken that it still hits at 4fpa?

[Fists of War]

WW is broken and hits at 4 fpa, even when chilled. One thing I've been wondering is: Does two weapons increase WW's hit speed 50% to 2.7 fpa or is it so broken that it still hits at 4fpa?
Sure it isn't 2fpa? And didn't they fix the chilled ww bug a LONG time ago?

Also, I think 2 weapons in classic means you attack at the same speed but weapons alternate, therefore it's not a very good idea.

Not to sure about the last point, it's nothing I've tested, only heard about.

[deichsela]

I run nm trav with a dual-patriarch gold find barb and Classic WW hits just as fast when chilled, so they must have only fixed it for LoD, probably in the original release of the expansion.

It's not 2 fpa.
25 fps over 4 fpa equals 6.25 attacks per second.
6.25 + 50% = 9.375 attacks per second
25 fps over 9.375 aps = 2.67 fpa

The easier way to think of it is:
+50% = 150%
100/150 = 2/3
2/3 * 4 fpa = 2.67 fpa

[Vodage]

Imho frenzy barb with max shout and taunt, maybe skip double swing and go for iron skin instead-- taunt lowers monster attack rating to go with ur stupid high defense.

Exe swords for best combination of attack speed/avg dmg/range.

Plus that way u have str for ornate anyways.
Also high dex u need for exe will benefit ur defense again.

Obviously frenzy needs 0% frw, and u can basically use walk the entire time, keeping your defense stupid high. Once you get a couple of hits off, you'll be walking as fast as a running paladin with max vigor.

*Vodage
*Sir_Vodage

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