Unique Barb (conceptual/in the making)

[UberNoober]

I am tired of the usual cookie cutter ww barbs and i wanted to try something different. :scratchchin:

This barb will mostly be for pvp

I know that frenzy barbs cannot amount to alot in PVP, so i can was thinking of a way to mix frenzy with WW so i can chase down necros,sorcs, and zons easily. I also have a gnasher for bvb purposes.

It took me a long time, but i managed to buy 2 150%+ ed naga's with +min dmg and 100+ AR and a touch of poison dmg each.

I would like advice on how i can make this character better...
So far, my idea for skills will be...

@ lvl 80, with 91 skills used

20 BO
20 WW
20 Axe Mastery
10 Frenzy
4 Increased speed
4 Natural res
13 Prereqs

The point with this build is to attack a few monsters to get running speed tweaked up, then ww people... i do NOT know if this may create a type of LAG like Hdins can... but i think with 30% boots, and increased speed and frenzy it CAN. If i can lag others ill call it Flag instead of Clag.
I understand that when im frenzied, i move very fast and if i WW anything ill only get like 1-3 hits on them (not sure the exact number). and that duel wielding weapons and wwing will give you like 1.5 more hits. If you do the math, its MUCH weaker than marts or exes or lances, but hey, i want to be different. the damage is almost equal to making a Grim Syth Barb, execpt Grmis have more range than nagas (but need more str and dex).

My questions are

1. What should the rest of my items be.

For example, angelics over +2 priz ammy and min max dmg rings?
Twitch over Rattlecage over Blinkbat over Rare armor etc.
Deaths set over Rares?

2. How should i change up my skills so they could be better?

Instead of having 20 on ww should i put only 10 on ww and put 20 on frenzy?
Are there other more important skills for this type of barb?

3. For bvb, should i use a gnasher (50% OW, 20% CB) or a 150% ed naga with +11 min dmg, 50 poison dmg, 110 AR. Also, should i use Twitch and SB, or Rattlecage and a 65% block 30/20 38 priz (around there with some stacked CR) bone shield.

Thank you in advance for your replies
and any advice/comments would be greatly appreciated

-uber

[HegemonKhan]

It took me a long time, but i managed to buy 2 150%+ ed naga's with +min dmg and 100+ AR and a touch of poison dmg each. -ubernoober

i'm jealous.... V.V
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i'm not sure what your goals are for this build, but:

the frenzy speed doesn't help that much for bvb duels (unless u got a good comp-internet and are very good at "ranging")

so i'm gonna presume u basically want a more ww-damage oriented speeder.... vs a travel movement speed oriented speeder (true-pure speeder).

but, since i dont know what u want...i'll do both to cover both grounds:
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ww-damage oriented speeder:

stats:

1. enough str and dex for gear. rest into vit.
2. or, a titan (all into str). enough dex for gear or no dex. base vit.
3. or, 100-200 vit. enough dex for gear. rest into str.

skills:

20 ww, 20 bo (unless u got anotehr character who'll bo u), 20 into wm (weapon mast, whaever wepaon type u want), 20 nat res (since u did say u wanted to pvp "elem damage type" sorcs, zons, paladins), rest into frenzy. 1 pt increase speed. 1 pt battle command (unless u got another character who'll give it to u).

weapon:

any 2 of the same 1 handed weapons u want. (for frenzy use and wm). it's completely UN-practical to switch between 2 weapons (for frenzy) and either a 2 handed weapon (for ww damage) or a shield (for protection) during a duel.
this means you'll be using dual weilding 1 handed weapons. no 2 handed weapon. no shield.

armor:

since u said u wanted to pvp "elem damage type" sorcs, zons, paladins that means u'll need resist gear.

with what gear slots u might have left (once u have the needed resists), than do damage gear

non-resist gear is pointless because:

if u want to bvb...use a different build....for your sake
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pure speeder: (MAX travel movement oriented speeder):

your ~280% FWR (when frenzied) vs 30-60% FWR opponents

(i prefer nagas, but u can change accordingly to whatever weapon u wanna use instead)

stats:

121 str (for nagas)
base dex
rest into vit
base nrg

skills:

20 frenzy (for travel movement speed)
20 increase speed (for travel movement speed)
20 bo (unless u got some other barb who'll bo u)
20 nat res (for ~67% all resists)
rest of points into axe mast (more useful than ww, gives critical strike, and also works with frenzy too)
at least 1 pt into ww
1 pt into battle cry
1 pt battle command (unless u got some other barb who'll give it to u)
1 pt leap or leap attack (just in case u need it...like for necro's or whatever)

pre-buff gear:

+skills gear. +10 skills is max from gear. too lazy to type it out or even copy n paste it out on this post.

weapon:

2 godly nagas: +2 barb, 40% IAS, 200% EDmg, cold dmg, AR, +20 min, +20 max, etc.. (can only have 6 mods though:P)

armor:

full iratha (for resists, max resists, and FWR=fast walk run speed), hawkmail or blinkbat (for FWR speed and/or CBF=cannot be frozen or 40% FHR=fast hit recovery) or darkglow (for resists and max resists), godly rare boots with 30% FWR 10% FHR resists etc, godly rare rings with resists AR +max dmg + min dmg

tactics:

use frenzy on monsters or opponent (if u can hit your opponent, don't use frenzy, hit him with ww and kill him/her) to get your frenzy speed. if possible cast battle cry on them only if u have to to be able to hit them (though extremely unlikely to be able to do it). use you're frenzied-up run them down, switch to ww, and kill them.

[UberNoober]

Well, the character is now lvl 30 and is ready for hell CS. I will choose your speeder build but instead, i will not put 20 points in increased speed and 20 in natural res... probably only 6-10 a peice. This way i can get more dmg cause i could max WM and put rest into WW. I guess no 1 will know how good this build is vs casters untill i finish him and start dueling. I will keep you guys informed on how he is coming along. Thank you for your post Hege, i always find them insightful.

-uber

[rynke]

can I see some pics of ur nagas? wanna see the dmg on such things.

[HegemonKhan]

naga: 16-45 damage

150% EDmg (he said 150%+ but didn't tell how much, so ima just use 150%)

+min mod: 0-15 (he didn't say how much he got)

+poison mod: 1-50 poison damage and 2-5 seconds (1 PoisonDmg for 1 second to 50 PoisonDmg for 5 seconds). (he didn't say how much he got)

how to calculate:

min damage:

16 + (16 x 1.5 or 150%) = 16+24 = 40

i do NOT know how to add the +min dmg mod on because i don't know if its added to the 16 first or at the end on the 40

40+ (1-50 poison dmg) = 41-90 for its min damage (40 is phys and 1-50 is poison)

max dmg:

45 + (45 x 1.5 or 150%) = 45+67.5 = 112.5

112.5 + (1-50 poison dmg) = 113.5-162.5 for its max damage (112.5 is phys and 1-50 is poison)

final damage of naga (excluding the +min dmg mod, str bonus, and skill bonuses):

41-113.5 lowest range of damage
90-162.5 highest range of damage

[rynke]

naga: 16-45 damage

150% EDmg (he said 150%+ but didn't tell how much, so ima just use 150%)

+min mod: 0-15 (he didn't say how much he got)

+poison mod: 1-50 poison damage and 2-5 seconds (1 PoisonDmg for 1 second to 50 PoisonDmg for 5 seconds). (he didn't say how much he got)

how to calculate:

min damage:

16 + (16 x 1.5 or 150%) = 16+24 = 40

i do NOT know how to add the +min dmg mod on because i don't know if its added to the 16 first or at the end on the 40

40+ (1-50 poison dmg) = 41-90 for its min damage (40 is phys and 1-50 is poison)

max dmg:

45 + (45 x 1.5 or 150%) = 45+67.5 = 112.5

112.5 + (1-50 poison dmg) = 113.5-162.5 for its max damage (112.5 is phys and 1-50 is poison)

final damage of naga (excluding the +min dmg mod, str bonus, and skill bonuses):

41-113.5 lowest range of damage
90-162.5 highest range of damage

ino the calculations :D

just wanted to his. =)

[Akse]

Well, the character is now lvl 30 and is ready for hell CS. I will choose your speeder build but instead, i will not put 20 points in increased speed and 20 in natural res... probably only 6-10 a peice. This way i can get more dmg cause i could max WM and put rest into WW. I guess no 1 will know how good this build is vs casters untill i finish him and start dueling. I will keep you guys informed on how he is coming along. Thank you for your post Hege, i always find them insightful.

-uber

nice char.. clearing hell CS at lvl30?

[UberNoober]

heh, if by clearing hell CS you mean clearing hell cs with full bo and a lvl 90 Hdin by my side then yes.

He is currently lvl 60 and has finished all skill quests.
ATM testing him out in duels. Staying away from BVB and dins

[HegemonKhan]

that's one of the problems with duels,

its either, resists-speed for sorcs or FC lit zons, or bvb gear n skills for bvb duels.

i'm not sure how to deal with paladins and bone necro's though.
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also, FOR ANY CHARACTER or BUILD, if u are just leeching exp (getting lvls from party, usually hdin, kills) in hell cs, i recommend this gear:

*DRINK THAWING AND ANTEDOTE POTS FOR 95% CR AND 95% PR* DON"T FORGET*

full iratha, dark glow, rare resist rings, blood cresent (unique) sword (it gives 15% all resists) or felloak (unique) club? (it gives 20% FR and 60% LR) or whatever 1 handed weapon with resists that u need OR jade tan do for the CBF (when your chilled, especially with decrepify on u, you ain't gonna be folowing the hdin around for exp. thats why teh jade tan do can be good for the CBF) and PR, a resist shield (either a rare prism-soj socketed shield, 3 p diamond shield, or ward unique shield), and for boots EITHER hotspurs or rare 30% FWR resist boots

the 30% FWR resists rare boots is better (since with them u'll have a chance to probably be folowing the hdin hell cs runner around) than the hotspurs unless u really need the 95% FR (vs 90% FR without the hotspurs) to stay alive.

[UberNoober]

well, to finish off this post...

I have finished dueling with this character, and believe that a normal lance speeder does much better than this character in most aspects of duels. After i frenzied and ran after sorcs, they just teled or if i clipped them with a ww, it didnt do enough damage (probably since im not usin angelics, or the low damage overall). Its a good thing i used random nagas that didnt cost me much. Anyway, im happy i made the character because the only good thing about him was that it was a fun build and for once when i dueled i didnt care about losing or winning. Which is the point of playing games.
having fun :party:

-uber

[HegemonKhan]

for some people fun only occurs with victory :D

losing isn't fun :D

a competitive person's view :D