Wacky Necromancer Build :p

[Theio Vrefos]

So, today i was messing around with my fishy. At a certain point i saw the ctc Poison Nova when struct from Andariel's Face my merc wore and i wondered if it could work with bone armor active on me. So i tried it out and it did actually work :D

So i figured, since ctc spells receive bonuses from synergies, i could make a masochistic necromancer :P! Bone armor would of course fair well against physical attacks. Primary curses would be Dim Vision to push monsters to use their normal attacks and probably Lower Resist.

So far i have:

1 Bone Armor (Actually synergies give more to damage absorbed than hard points in this skill :P)
20 Bone Wall
20 Bone Prison
20 Poison Dagger
20 Poison Explosion
13 Requirements/1 point in each curse

I'll probably use curse skillers, as i have no use for +skills on the poison and bone tab, they are just there to synergize poison nova.

Equipment:

Andariel's Visage
Carrion Wind x2 (for the poison nova level 10 ctc when struct)
Trang-Oul's Claws (for the poison damage bonus and the rest wonderful mods)
Trang-Oul's Girth (to get cannot be frozen and compete 3 trang items)
Trang-Oul's Wing (-25% poison resistance, but high chance to block :/)
Death's Web

I have no clue what to choose for the amulet and i am torn between enigma and bone for the body armor. Bone has ctc to cast bone armor, which means that he would self-regenerate his defenses. Enigma needs no explanation.

[stillman]

Very interesting! So would this sort of thing be useful in hell mode?

[Theio Vrefos]

Unfortunately, it doesn't fair well at all :/
I tried it in single player and i was getting owned :p

[Master Zap]

Level 15 poison ctc on andy's fully synergised and requires your hit =

Current Skill Level: 15
Poison Damage: 1203-1375
over 2 seconds


After the trang's boost 1611 avg over 2 seconds.

85% of the time your hit nothing happens.

Try a Botd perhaps?

50% Chance To Cast Level 20 Poison Nova When You Kill An Enemy

this fully syngerised +it's going off on every other monster you kill.

Current Skill Level: 20
Poison Damage: 1781-1953
over 2 seconds

(before trang and - gear)

Or use them both perhaps?


I love the wacky builds. Your going to need a hefty amount of patience to play this through whichever way you go.

[Theio Vrefos]

Well, carrion wind has 10% ctc level 10 poison nova. So the chance goes up a little. I want to give him a try with cows.
The main problem he has is life. I dumped nearly all points in vita and still have ~800 life before cta buff. Bone armor + Bone armor (skill :p) works fine at times, but that's when some random monster one hits my armor and kills me :P

I think i'll have to try it with damage reduction.

[georgegrozev]

Dman, I love wacky builds, and would love to see a Necro abbot wearing ebotdz+andy's+carrion windx2+bramble+ abbot shield and helm. Try some different equips and report back!

[onderduiker]

Equipping two Carrion Wind Rings (10% Chance to Cast Level 10 Poison Nova When Struck) will result in 20% (10 + 10) Chance to Cast Level 10 Poison Nova When Struck, since the level, skill and casting method are the same. Unfortunately, Andariel's Visage Demonhead has 15% Chance to Cast Level 15 Poison Nova When Struck, so it doesn't stack. Instead, there are the following possibilities:


Level 10 only 17% (0.20 * 0.85 * 100)
Level 15 only 12% (0.15 * 0.80 * 100)
Both 3% (0.20 * 0.15 * 100)
Neither 68% (0.80 * 0.85 * 100)
Thus there's a 32% (100 - 68) chance of at least one PN being cast when struck. When both are cast, level 15 PN should be applied since it has a higher rate of damage. If you add to your current set-up by socketing Rainbow Facet Jewels in your helm, weapon and shield, you'll have a total of +34-40% to Poison Skill Damage and -74-90% to Enemy Poison Resistance, resulting in the following poison damage being applied to monsters of varying Poison Resist %:


PR % MINIMUM MAXIMUM
Damage Seconds Damage Seconds
__________________________________________________ _____
0 3,295-3,993 3.48 6,080-6,949 3.8
25 2,822-3,419 3.48 5,280-6,034 3.8
33 2,670-3,235 3.48 5,024-5,741 3.8
50 2,348-2,845 3.48 4,480-5,120 3.8
66 2,045-2,478 3.48 3,968-4,535 3.8
75 1,875-2,271 3.48 3,680-4,205 3.8
The minimum is level 10 PN with +34% PSD and -74% EPR, while the maximum is level 15 PN with +40% PSD and -90% EPR.

Level 10 Lower Resist (PR -55%) is needed to break 110% poison immunities (PR -11%), and casting it would result in the following poison damage:


PR % MINIMUM MAXIMUM
Damage Seconds Damage Seconds
__________________________________________________ _____
0 3,788-4,589 3.48 6,400-7,315 3.8
25 3,788-4,589 3.48 6,400-7,315 3.8
33 3,712-4,497 3.48 6,400-7,315 3.8
50 3,390-4,107 3.48 6,240-7,132 3.8
66 3,087-3,740 3.48 5,728-6,546 3.8
75 2,916-3,534 3.48 5,440-6,217 3.8
100 1,609-1,950 3.48 3,232-3,693 3.8
105 1,515-1,835 3.48 3,072-3,510 3.8
110 1,420-1,720 3.48 2,911-3,327 3.8
Compared to PN's peak of 63,075-64,271 poison damage over 3.5 seconds that's underwhelming, but it's still useful damage.

[billking]

Bramble runeword seems to be EXACTLY what you're looking for. I don't think you want Trang-Oul's set except for the gloves.

[Theio Vrefos]

Well, i forgot about this thread. I removed his wand and added a BotD berserker axe. While it doesn't have a ctc when struct, you get a level 20 poison nova whenever you kill someone. This results in endless poison novas spawning around you when you get to kill a pack of many creatures with low life.

@onderduiker: I knew about the diminished chances. The point was to use as many ctc poison nova as i could to get steady damage output.

@billking: Three items from the trang set provide you with -poison resistance, which is always useful. Bramble could work.