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I'm noob on diablo so plz help me out.
I'm building a uber smiter/zealot build from this forum
http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=425449
I'm having some problems with my build
OK.. here is my setup
Helm: Guillaume’s face
Boots: Gore rider boots,
Glove: Dracul’s grasp gloves.
Armor: Mage Plate Enigma (def 1050)
Weapon: Grief Phase Blade - 40ias, 359
Belt: nothing yet... but spiderweb sash soon as i hit lvl 80
Shield: Herald of Zakarum.
Amulet. Mara's
Rings: 2xRavenfrost (+17, and +16 dex, and ~210 AR each) i also have 2 soj in inventory that im not using, seems like 2x raven is stronger.
Accessories: Paladin torch, and anni
here are the stats
lvl:77
str:156
dex:136
vit:300
eng:39
and 115 extra stats remaining... (thinking about putting all in vit)
skills
fanaticism 30 pts max
zeal 32 pts max
sacrifice 32 pts max
holy shield 26 pts (not complete)
I've chose mageplate enigma because with torch and anni, i didnt have to put single point on strength to wear it, also gives me huge boost on str so i can wear all other items i currently have. also give teleport.
i have No point invested on Str and Eng. 2x ravenfrost is also helping me invest less on Dex, since they are 17+16=33 added dex.
Thinking about putting rest of the point in vit if everything is good the way it is right now.
OK.. here is the problem.
seems like my zeal damage is pretty good 1071-1224
but my smite damage is sissy.... is it normal for smite to be 201-281?
i've read the thread and seems like smite damage should be over 1k.. weird..
am i missing something here?
Do i need different shield?
Build seems to recommend fortitude runeword instead of enigma, should i change to fortitude? im wearing enigma because with mp enigma i dont have to invest a single point into str.
is everything correct?
what level can i go for uber solo?
PLZ help me out thank you in advance
mackscynox
20-11-2008, 09:08
some suggestions:
- invest some stats to str, and use COH or fortitude armor. for enigma, i dont see any benefit for a zealot
- swap one of your ravenfrost with some rare good ring (maybe mana leach, some resist, stats....) soj is not useful for zealot.
- it seems your HOZ is not upgraded. upgrade it, smite damage is low because of that. also the smite dmg is calculated different and your character screen lies to u (because of grief).
use this calculator for real damage
http://diablo3.ingame.de/tips/calcs/dmgcalc/dmgcalc.php?patch=110&lang=eng
- for belt why arachnid mesh? u wont need +1 or fcr. use verdungo or tgod.
- i started ubering with lvl 82 (because of gear req). u can start at 80. max holy shield, 1pt wonders for zealot (salvation, vengeance[i suggest, u may not need]) and go go go....
i hope those help
some suggestions:
- invest some stats to str, and use COH or fortitude armor. for enigma, i dont see any benefit for a zealot
- swap one of your ravenfrost with some rare good ring (maybe mana leach, some resist, stats....) soj is not useful for zealot.
- it seems your HOZ is not upgraded. upgrade it, smite damage is low because of that. also the smite dmg is calculated different and your character screen lies to u (because of grief).
use this calculator for real damage
http://diablo3.ingame.de/tips/calcs/dmgcalc/dmgcalc.php?patch=110&lang=eng
- for belt why arachnid mesh? u wont need +1 or fcr. use verdungo or tgod.
- i started ubering with lvl 82 (because of gear req). u can start at 80. max holy shield, 1pt wonders for zealot (salvation, vengeance[i suggest, u may not need]) and go go go....
i hope those help
Thank YOU!!
i took your advise on most parts, i changed one of my raven to dual leeach ring, and change belt to t-god, and armor to fortitude. still havent upgraded my HoZ. LOL
@ Level 77, I beat the 3 uber solo in 2 player game (my mule was standing so i can go in and out of the room when i was dead)
Diablo and Baal went down very quick... almost too easy...
had lil problem with mephisto, died like 5 times.... arrgg
memphisto does massive damage with minions...
is there any easier way of beating him?
do i need more resistance to take less damage?
my fire,cold,poison is all capped at 75% but my lighting is 93% seems like cap is 95% cuz of thundergod.
Do i need whole lot of stacked resistance to tank him and his minions?
But seems like once i start smiting he's done though, because he cant raise skeletons anymore while im smiting.
OK, another question.
is fortitude better than chain of honor? seems like fortitude has about 700 more defense and also has chilling armor, BUT CoH has higher resistances and +2 skills.
what would help me make this run even easier?
my vit is 1359 and about 1.7k with BO
mackscynox
20-11-2008, 20:52
if u wont smite, u dont need to up HOZ. but why not use smite while u can? :D
u did treachery prebuff, used lifetap wand, right?
generally i prefer fort on my uber zealot. i dont always smite ubers, many times zeal (have a chance of ~60deadly strike, so i try to use it). i have stacked many @res charms so dont need res, so dont need COH. u can switch to salvation on meph if res is too low after conviction. defense is not so important than other issues (dmg, res, skills).
dont bother with minions unless u are swarmed. finish meph first. after meph dies minions are pretty easy without nasty conviction
what would help me make this run even easier? : more life and stacked res maybe. separate brothers, rush to meph before he summons many minions. make game perm and remove your mule from game (2 players increase ubers' life and dmg). after some runs u just get used to it:D
if u wont smite, u dont need to up HOZ. but why not use smite while u can? :D
u did treachery prebuff, used lifetap wand, right?
generally i prefer fort on my uber zealot. i dont always smite ubers, many times zeal (have a chance of ~60deadly strike, so i try to use it). i have stacked many @res charms so dont need res, so dont need COH. u can switch to salvation on meph if res is too low after conviction. defense is not so important than other issues (dmg, res, skills).
dont bother with minions unless u are swarmed. finish meph first. after meph dies minions are pretty easy without nasty conviction
what would help me make this run even easier? : more life and stacked res maybe. separate brothers, rush to meph before he summons many minions. make game perm and remove your mule from game (2 players increase ubers' life and dmg). after some runs u just get used to it:D
Thank you for reply!
i've gone through 5 uber runs already, 2 times without dying... lol Full Rejuvi is required.. lol.
I made a biggest mistake on my first run.
I didnt read the guide :scratchchin:
it says i need to turn on "salvation" aura for mephisto.
i was charging him with fanaticism... :whistling:
if multiple bosses dont surround me... i can survive no problem... memphisto seems the hardest and diablo is easiest.
i LOVE this build.
BAMFSpecialOps
22-11-2008, 18:35
Yea, If your res are crappy when mephi's conviction hits you, it will be a long day inside of trist. Usually you lure him away from the others first, turn on salvation if you need it, then take him out, lure big D away, kill him, then Cry Baby Baal.
sangvantue
28-11-2008, 11:49
I also need some help with my zealot
Here is my setup, pls take a look:
helm : Guillemme's face sox with 15% ias jewel
Armor: Chain of honor
Weapon: Grief phase blade with 32% ias and 398 damage
Shield: a low HOZ not upgrade
Belt: Thundergodt vigor
Gloves: Drakul's
Boots: Gore rider
Ring: Raven frost and Carrion wind
Amu: A rare ( guess so :P ) with 1 pala skill, 18 str, 11 dex and all resist
Pala torch and anni
And here is my current stats:
Str: 170
dex: 136
vit: 434
mana : dunno and dont care :D
Resist: fire 75%
Lighting 85%
Cold 75&
Poison 75&
I still have some extra points remaining, but it doesn't matter at all.
And Merc: might merc with Infinity
My problem as: now im max Sacrifire, Zeal, Fanat and Holy shield
1 point on Smite ofcourse.
Im being confused, which skill i should spend the rest point on? Defiance or blessed aim ? And should i invest 1 point on Salvations as everyone say ?
And one more, is there any err in my setup gears, if there is, please let me know as your opinion. :)
Please help me out. Any help is much, much appreciated.
Ty in advance !
BAMFSpecialOps
28-11-2008, 23:27
Some people prefer Fort over CoH for armor, but it's what you like.
If you are going to smite at all, upgrade your HoZ.
CWind should be switched out to a nice dual leech rare, dwarf, etc.
Highlords or Metal Grid may be a better amulet choice.
Defiance or the Resist auras for the passive bonus, simple reason being Grief has ITD for normal Mobs and for bosses you have smite.
Salvation is always handy in Trist, well worth 1 point on most builds.
deadbeater
29-11-2008, 06:34
You don't need to upgrade HoZ. You can kill already. If anything, upgrade your open wounds with a crafted belt instead.
sangvantue
29-11-2008, 14:23
Thanks for all help !
I wanna ask some more, that my attack speed is high enough yet just with the equipment im having right now ? Because i dont see you mind about it :P Should i change highlords instead of the current ring im using ? i've just got a duel leech ring with stats: 6% mana 8% life, cold resist 16%, light resist 10% and poison 6%.... is it good enough to be used ?
deadbeater
05-01-2009, 23:56
I want that ring :). You shouldn't change Highlords for the ring; Highlords is an ammy.
If Fanaticism is not working for you vs Meph, plop at least 1 point into Salvation. Please.
Again, low Smite Damage is not a deterrent to smite in Tristram, as long as you have 50+ CB and 50+ OW. As long as D2 has those things, abuse them.
Are you dying to Meph because lifetap is not going off quick enough?
AnghellicZ
11-01-2009, 22:35
i need help with my zelot/smiter...
i use grief, fort, sanctuary, ravenfrost, carrion, credendum, guillaume, gore, dracs, highlord, torch, anni..
but my zeal AR is only around 6k and thats pretty awful.. i have no problems with bosses but sometimes when i fight monsters, i have only 70% chance of hit for some of them in act 5.. i thought of using hoz for the 20% bonus to AR but it doesn't seem to change it a lot, it is still around 6k. I could also use the angelic rings and ammy, but it would reduce my speed from highlord and other things..
Is there a good way i could improve my AR?
BAMFSpecialOps
12-01-2009, 02:15
Grief has ITD, you have Smite for Bosses...What level are you? Another Raven/rare dual leech with AR ring, or charms would be the easy options to help level out your AR.
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