View Full Version : Will Deckard Cain Die?
I ask this mainly because of the following:
Blizzard has mentioned that Diablo 3 will be the end of the current arc of the series.
Cain is normally depicted as the sort of 'narrator' of the game. But in the Diablo 3 trailer, the narrator was a new character named Leah.
Leah appears to be a NPC directly related with Cain and is heavily speculated to be an important character.
Blizzard doesn't shy away from killing off major characters to make way for new ones.
Basically, the way I see it, Leah may be being groomed to replace Deckard Cain as the game's narrator in subsequent titles. The reason for this is time. With twenty years having passed since the first two games, Cain is without doubt remarkably old given the average life span in-game. Given that Cain probably won't live long enough for the next game should significant time pass between them (such as in the case between Diablo 2 and 3), it could be seen as better use of the character to have him killed off memorably to further the plot and add 'drama'.
xenoterracide
22-10-2008, 02:45
1. ... doesn't really suggest his death
2. doesn't matter as Marius did the cut scenes for D2
3. speculation? I haven't heard this, even so it doesn't suggest his death.
4. I don't think it has anything to do with 'making way' and more to show the brutality of sanctuary.
I actually do think Cain will die, perhaps the PC will even see it as being partially their fault. Somehow I think this Leah will believe it to be hers, prolly 'cause she was off with the PC.
SoulSpectrum
22-10-2008, 02:46
IF Cain dies, that'll be the final straw for me.... He's a cute character like Pikachu!
Cain doesn't die... He's actually the mastermind behind the whole operation.
SoulSpectrum
24-10-2008, 04:25
So Cain equals...... washed up 80's teen actor trying to get in the spot light again?
Mizantrop
24-10-2008, 05:55
One of the questions/complaints in the StarCraft II lore panal was about killing npcs and bringing them back all the time in Blizzard's games. (wow:kel'thud, syilvannos? - starcraft: phoenix, kerrigan)
Even if Cain dies in D3 you can expect him to come back at some point, and with wings on his back probably!
Swordslash
24-10-2008, 07:52
Look at the last page of Cain's diary, it's slashed with claws. I think Cain turned into a prime evil. I always knew he was evil (switching people's Stones of Jordan for Manald Heals during the "identification process", etc...)
Frostraven
25-10-2008, 10:30
Look at the last page of Cain's diary, it's slashed with claws. I think Cain turned into a prime evil. I always knew he was evil (switching people's Stones of Jordan for Manald Heals during the "identification process", etc...)
Hey, thats right...
All of my stones of jordan have been identified by scrolls...
HEY!
SoulSpectrum
26-10-2008, 10:43
But..... why would Cain need the 2,000,000,000 Sojs that everyone has found? He's not that selfish.... For the dclone perhaps? Not likely..... unless he pokes its' eyes out with his walking cain and trips him a few times into the river of flame.
As for Cain being evil.... I don't know.... it's plausable.... but it gives me the same feeling as Tyrael being evil... and that as sour as Cain's toes..... those dirty.... dirty.... sandles......
SPOILERS!
Cain carries something that LOOKS like a shard of the worldstone which is actually his future soulstone ;) He will trap himself into that and possess Diablo himself, that's why it won't be "Diablo IV" but "Cain I"
Claymenza
06-11-2008, 18:01
Deckard McCain will live to provide counsel to fight the good war.
He has experience in foreign policy and he will groom leah palin as a new messiah
Twenty years should be enough to teach someone the basics of being a Horadrim.
Besides that, I wouldn't mind Cain Dieing, i always thought he was kind of weird and creepy...
After Defeating Diablo, Deckard Cain, Being the {possibly} Last Horodrim, Dies in the Creation and entrapement of a soulstone Leaving Leah to be A fill in for Him in the Expansion
mackemradge
09-11-2008, 11:52
When the D3 announcement was made I speculated on it as the final part of a Trilogy (and was flamed for it at the time). If D3 is, as the OP stated, the final part of this 'arc of Diablo' I will reinstate my theory.
With the final part of a trilogy certain things may come into play.
1. Something we all took to be true will turn out to be false. (Cain is in fact evil, currupt and has been stringing us along all the time???)
2. There will be a huge twist in the tail (Cain becomes the reincarnation of the prime evils and is in fact the endgame boss???)
3. Given that we have all killed the Prime evils in D2 a new evil must rise if the series is to continue (why not a corrupt Cain???)
Will Deckard Cain die?......Yes he will IMO and he will rise again as the epitimy of evil in D4, D5 etc. The story will continue and, on a personal note, if he says 'Stay a while and listen' one more time I'll kill the old codger myself.
stillman
09-11-2008, 14:33
I hate Cain because of all those times he harassed my chrs, walking up to them, following them around with that exclamation point over his head until you finally break down and talk to him.
THEN, he makes that idiot light quest log icon show up on your screen. So then you have to click that to get rid of it.
I want Cain dead for good and I want in on it.
bottledwater
10-12-2008, 16:57
how OLD is he?! like 400? i personally dont think cain is human, firstly because he is like 400 years old and DOESNT have Alzheimer, second because he can identify EVERYTHING, and humans can't know all that much about so many subjects, and for some reason he refuses to die.
also, i want him to die, i never liked him much, i have a feeling he would be one of those old people who would get a city ordinance passed to ban skateboarding on sidewalks.
The Lord of Darkness
20-12-2008, 12:24
Diablo should corrupt Cain and take him out like Baal did with Tal Rasha....or did he? heh. Cain should die just for the fact that all he does is hang out in camp while we do all the work. I would imagine a Horadrim would be a useful merc but not Cain, then again I think I would get annoyed with the voiceovers.
The Lord of Darkness
20-12-2008, 12:29
When the D3 announcement was made I speculated on it as the final part of a Trilogy (and was flamed for it at the time). If D3 is, as the OP stated, the final part of this 'arc of Diablo' I will reinstate my theory.
With the final part of a trilogy certain things may come into play.
1. Something we all took to be true will turn out to be false. (Cain is in fact evil, currupt and has been stringing us along all the time???)
2. There will be a huge twist in the tail (Cain becomes the reincarnation of the prime evils and is in fact the endgame boss???)
3. Given that we have all killed the Prime evils in D2 a new evil must rise if the series is to continue (why not a corrupt Cain???)
Will Deckard Cain die?......Yes he will IMO and he will rise again as the epitimy of evil in D4, D5 etc. The story will continue and, on a personal note, if he says 'Stay a while and listen' one more time I'll kill the old codger myself.
Naaa, I can't see Cain being corrupt like that. I could see Tyrael being corrupt though, banished from heaven for destroying the worldstone, ect. But I digress, that's a theory for a different thread.
Caligunero
20-12-2008, 18:22
It needs to be remembered that Blizzard chose the names for its characters for a reason (even if they are completely avoiding the real world heaven and hell aspects) and the name Cain is a very important name (as in Cain and Abel).
Since Cain is named after the first murderer (according to the Bible), and the Biblical Cain was thought by people in the Middle Ages to have sired terrible, horrible creatures (in Beowulf, Grendel and Grendel's Mother are both said to be descendants of Cain), it is very reasonable to assume that Deckard Cain will end up being evil/corrupt in some way...which, of course, would most likely lead to his death and possible reincarnation.
Dendroid King
21-12-2008, 01:33
Oh something do puzzles me abt Deckard Cain back in Diablo 2.
When the heroes of Diablo 2 reach Tristam, they were told to rescue Cain. How would Akara knows that Cain is the only survivor in Tristam? Even more interesting is among all npcs in Diablo 1, why is Cain the sole survivor? :crazyeyes:
Well becoz he is the only survivor in the tradegy of Tristam (maybe apart from Adria), I do suspect that he has some tricks in his sleeve. The rest were murdered and Grisworld was corrupted. But Cain was left to die in the cage???
Hehehe doesn't make sense to me. Mebbe the demons wanted his horadim knowledge badly. Otherwise I dun get it why would he get special treatment from the rest of Tristam townsfolk.
I hope to see him die. Apart from identifying stuff he was annoying. They made a point in the trailer. "Nobody ever listens"
Maxadrenaline
24-12-2008, 13:19
Yeah, the barb cut him off good. Now let's hope we get to cut off more than his lame comment.
I hope each time Cain starts to talk about Horadrim or about the world some years ago, then the Witch Doctor uses a cool voodoo doll representing Cain and let him agonize and be quiet.
Would be cool and insuperable.
lol
Gerald_Tarrant
23-02-2009, 03:57
Cain can't die.. Then who would paint the roof on the pandemonium fortress when you aren't looking?
(Yes, that IS why its changing colors!)
Lehetetlen
19-03-2009, 13:07
I don't think he is going to be killed, Tyrael even sworn to protect him from any harm(Act IV gossip). In my opinion the biggest threat to Cain is his age.
Another thing he is a sage not a warrior or a spellcaster. If I remeber correctly he even says he always led a scholarly life when you rescue him, and thus his knowledge is what makes him impotant, to which usually nobody ever listens.
ThulRasha
19-03-2009, 14:58
I don't think he is going to be killed, Tyrael even sworn to protect him from any harm(Act IV gossip). In my opinion the biggest threat to Cain is his age.
Wich is exactly why he will die a different way.
Cain can't die of old age, that would be such an anti-climax.
No, something dreadfull horrid will happen to good old Cain. I'm sure of it.
Lehetetlen
19-03-2009, 15:22
Wich is exactly why he will die a different way.
Cain can't die of old age, that would be such an anti-climax.
No, something dreadfull horrid will happen to good old Cain. I'm sure of it.
You have a point. Still I am hoping that he will ascend or something instead of being mutilitated by a hellspawn.
sirBeReN
23-03-2009, 00:06
L O L @ the comments on Cain's bad behaviour (eg "I hate Cain because of all those times he harassed my chrs, walking up to them, following them around with that exclamation point over his head until you finally break down and talk to him.
THEN, he makes that idiot light quest log icon show up on your screen. So then you have to click that to get rid of it. ")
hahahaha! Thought all these were only my "problems"...lol
Lynchgrinch
24-03-2009, 18:50
i have a gut feeling that cain will die a horrible grousome death.
but i always thought cain was awesome, and you all seem to think different...
Iunno.
He seems to be a very freaky old man at times.
Being very old, but seems to always appear in the act earlier than you.
Perhaps he has a secret spell book that lets him teleport himself!
:o
The Archivist, which is based on Deckard Cain's model, has its own custom death animation. Hmm....
It also exploded kinda like the goats.
I sorta hope he really would though. Nothing personal against him; I'd just like to see it :P
Tanksaabas
02-04-2009, 17:01
Whats with the hate? I think he's a great asset to the forces of light. With his vast knowladge and identifying skills and all.
BigKevSexyMan
02-04-2009, 17:22
Deckard Cain will die and be reborn as the archivist.
Rothos Carthaginos
02-04-2009, 18:20
Cain die? Then is he training a new Horadrim?
Cain die? Then is he training a new Horadrim?
It's quite possible that he could be training Leah (http://www.diablowiki.net/Leah) (the girl in the cinematic trailer).
MichelRPG
04-04-2009, 16:56
I am pretty sure deckard cain died long ago, and the cain we saved from tristam is the Lord of Lies. Want to know why?
The original 3 heroes from Diablo, the Warrior, the Rogue, and the Wizard, all were there for the final battle against Diablo. What happened? The Warrior transformed into the Dark Wanderer, host of Diablo. The Rogue (Blood Raven) became a corrupted Rogue/necromancer. The Wizard became either possessed by evil or enchanted by demonic magic, and transformed into The Summoner.
Before all of them became that way, the NPC's inform you of what happened;
-the Warrior grew slightly mad, he woke up screaming from nightmares, and eventually went to the East.
-The Rogue became dark and distant, and eventually left the Sisters
The Wizard ended up being traumatized by the battle, and he made his way into the Arcane sanctuary where he lost whatever sanity he had left.
Now... this is all information we all know. But there is one line in an NPC text, Warriv's, that is overlooked by a LOT of people. here it is;
"Months ago, I came across a few survivors from Tristram. They said that Cain had gone half-mad and could no longer distinguish fact from fantasy. "
So how come he is suddenly so sane and wise in our quests, survived everything thrown at him during D2 (while he didnt do anything in D1), and managed to gain the trust of everything and everyone? (save for Charsi, who is creeped out by him).
I think Cain either became an enemy before D2 started, or he was murdered and replaced by a döppelganger. Either way I find it hard to believe the demons would slaughter everyone in tristam, yet they would let the biggest danger live.
I think that Warriv calls him insane because most of people don't believe him. They don't believe he's a horradrim...They think he's just a simple story teller, gone mad from all the evil he's seen.
olddangerfield
05-04-2009, 17:11
wow i want to play diii already
CognitionX
12-04-2009, 18:32
I don't want him to die out of spite, but I always felt a cool story transition would be his death and the return of Adria as a guide and mentor...
I was always more fond of her, anyway.
DominicxD
05-05-2009, 02:57
I hope he dies at then end of the game, somehow killed by Diablo, but before the expansion.
I remember playing D2 when and killing Diablo for the first time, only to find out that Baal was back at the end and i was very excited to play the expansion just to see what would happen. I hope they bring Diablo into the last section of Diablo 3 and then we have to wait to get the expansion to kill Diablo. I love that waiting, it gets me very excited once im really into the plot xD
MichelRPG
05-05-2009, 03:43
well a Diablo game wouldnt be much of a diablo game is the namecarrier himself wouldnt be in it. I wouldnt mind a return of the other big baddies in some way or reference (mephisto and baal, or even izual). But... here's to having the hope that Blizzard will be able to surprise us all. cheers
. . . But there is one line in an NPC text, Warriv's, that is overlooked by a LOT of people. here it is;
"Months ago, I came across a few survivors from Tristram. They said that Cain had gone half-mad and could no longer distinguish fact from fantasy. "
So how come he is suddenly so sane and wise in our quests, survived everything thrown at him during D2 (while he didnt do anything in D1), and managed to gain the trust of everything and everyone? (save for Charsi, who is creeped out by him).
You may have something there. I don't remember Warriv saying that, but I've played the game so many times I often ignore the NPC remarks, either skipping through them, or avoiding them entirely.
PS "Deckard McCain" is not coming back because no one voted for him!
Surfingpikachao
31-05-2009, 14:59
But if Cain dies then who will I stay awhile and listen to? Who will tell me that I have quite a treasure there in my horadric cube? =O
I can't say any of the things OP suggested really give any idea that Cain would die but I don't doubt Blizz may do it. We'll have to wait and see.
I don't think he is going to be killed, Tyrael even sworn to protect him from any harm(Act IV gossip). In my opinion the biggest threat to Cain is his age.
Another thing he is a sage not a warrior or a spellcaster. If I remeber correctly he even says he always led a scholarly life when you rescue him, and thus his knowledge is what makes him impotant, to which usually nobody ever listens.
What if Cain actually do turn out to be evil? If you have to fight him, will Tyrael keep his promise? Is it even possible for someone of his nature to break a vow? If not, you might have to kill both Tyrael and Cain. And that would be 100% pure awesome.
That would be awesome, yeah. But I find it much more possible that Tyrael will turn evil...And Cain will die somehow...Of age perhaps...would be about time xD
Or maybe he was a zombie all along... :D
Deckard Cain will die and I will make sure of it.
MichelRPG
02-06-2009, 04:00
Deckard Cain will die and I will make sure of it.
and about bloody time too I might add! What took you so long?!
aduckduckgoose
02-06-2009, 06:16
Like MichelRPG, maybe Cain was killed and replaced by a doppleganger. IMO, it would be a cool storyline if Asmodan himself possessed Cain's body while he was trapped in teh cage and decided to aid the "hero" of D2 in hopes of starting a new Dark Exile. In that case, Asmodan's wishes were all carried out since the hero killed all three prime evils; for a time that is..mabye now all hail ASMODAN??!?
I think it is more likely that we will get to fight Cain in a secret level, like the Cow Level. They already started goofing around with Cain with the archivist and all that. Just imagine, you enter this ancient mysterious library and then you hear in an evil Cain voice: "YOU SHOULD HAVE STAYED AWHILE AND LISTENED!" and well... you can imagine the rest.
MichelRPG
03-06-2009, 02:01
I think it is more likely that we will get to fight Cain in a secret level, like the Cow Level. They already started goofing around with Cain with the archivist and all that. Just imagine, you enter this ancient mysterious library and then you hear in an evil Cain voice: "YOU SHOULD HAVE STAYED AWHILE AND LISTENED!" and well... you can imagine the rest.
I can imagine something worse... imagine a hundred cains slowly walking up to you, all of them saying "stay a while and listen!"
actually that would be funny as hell.
I can imagine something worse... imagine a hundred cains slowly walking up to you, all of them saying "stay a while and listen!"
actually that would be funny as hell.
correction. that WOULD BE hell. xD
I just read all these post, and i got to say there is some hate. althought the thing about the soj's i never gonna let that old man id my unique rings anymore, the last one he gave me was a darwf ring, i was so mad. if Cain is hording the soj's nextime i wont save him.
Anyways cain being evil, i dont see that at all, annoying - very much so. If any one is evil and corrupted it is defantly the angel. sometihing about his glowing says "I will kill you!"
i hope the secrete cain level was just a bad joke...
MichelRPG
05-06-2009, 14:00
that explains it! If cain is indeed Azmodan in disguise, he fears the coming of the Dclone! Thats why he steals all our Sojs! (honestly, I must have found more dwafstars, nagelrings, manalds, and ravenfrosts in my years of playing D2 than I can count for. I found every single piece of unique jewelry, and with the exception of atmas and Metalgrid, at least TWICE. But a Soj? Nuuuu..... bastard).
Ok i am jumping on the bandwagon, i have restarted to play D2 again about 2-3 weeks ago and found so many manalds and nagel rings, if i found another one in the nest year it would be too soon. but i found 2 unique rings last night since i was home, and because of the rumor that Cain steals the sojs, i used a scroll instead. first ring was an SOJ, the first one i ever found and the second one was almost p ravenfrost, only 1 dex and 1 ar off so close.
SO DECKARD CAIN MUST DIE!!!
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