View Full Version : Diablo 3 or a new Gauntlet?
bondball7
17-10-2008, 19:09
Everyone keeps comparing D3 to WoW, which I cant really comment on because I don't play that game, but there is another game that it seems to be eerily similar to, Gauntlet. From what I can tell it looks and plays just like it. Anyone else see what I see?
Apocalypse
17-10-2008, 20:34
seeing as my experience with gauntlet ended like a million years ago in the arcades and on nes i am gonna say, no i think d3 will be more like wow than gauntlet but what it will really be like is d3
You mean Gauntlet IV, the 3d arcade game? Sure, I guess it's kinda similar...but really only inasmuch as its similar to any game thats ultimately derived from the side-scroller platform fighters like the D&D arcade game, Final Fight, etc....its the same basic gameplay, just in 3D with more complex AI and skill/item systems.
Angel_of_Wrath
17-10-2008, 21:00
Only if the next two classes are "Elf" and "Valkyrie" :wink:
It would be funny to hear "Wizard shot the food!" or "Witchdoctor... your life force is running out!"
Gigashadow
17-10-2008, 21:04
Um, no, I played Gauntlet, don't even remind me. That game has little to do with Diablo simply because of its age... and comparing something to gauntlet you can as well compare it to any hack&slash out there.
Starving_Poet
17-10-2008, 21:46
Diablo IS a hack & slash...
diablo definitely shares many traits with gauntlet... they're of a similar genre.
likewise diablo shares traits with wow because they're both RPGs, by the same company no less.
it's like saying "i'm worried the new Halo is gonna suck... it totally reminds me of wolfenstein".
Gigashadow
17-10-2008, 23:33
Diablo IS a hack & slash...My point exactly. You compare a game to a game of its genre, you'll find way too many similarities.
jesterlolz
19-10-2008, 01:00
In DIII you choose male/female wizard, not blue/green wizard.
They're COMPLETELY different!
In DIII you choose male/female wizard, not blue/green wizard.
They're COMPLETELY different!
Yeah, but in Gauntlet you had 4 choices; blue, green, red and yellow but in Diablo III you will only have 2 choices; male and female.
20 years on and they are taking a step backwards?
:whistling:
In the name of Zod
19-10-2008, 03:06
Gauntlet was the original but it was always going to be a matter of time until clones started coming out (see Nox for an extreme example). When I played the demo of diablo it instantly brought me back to gauntlet. Remember that gauntlet and diablo are not rpg's and have never been described as such by their developers.
By looking at those screenies it 'seems' that blizzard are trying to make the game more gauntlety than ever before due to the colour choice. The colour scheme is gauntlet like and colour schemes are enough to liken one product to another especially if there's enough of a similarity between them already. I admit I haven't done an rgb sample of both games to check yet!
Although the one big issue that separates these 2 games imo is the input method. Diablo you're clicking on the monsters in gauntlet your managing the direction facing of the character and making it shoot in that direction. This makes for a distinctly different gaming experience, sincerly. One thing though that has to be said is that gauntlet introduced 'massacre' style gameplay which 'seems' to be more prevalent in the latest revision of the diablo series.
I like the gauntlety colour scheme in D3. Well picked up bondball7 :yes:
Dead Congregation
19-10-2008, 04:17
Gauntlet...man that brings back some memories.
Gigashadow
19-10-2008, 04:18
If you call Nox a clone, you don't understand anything in games. It's probably the only non-clone Hack&Slash out there...
Comparing DIII to Gauntlet is silly because of the age difference alone.
Color scheme? Yeah, DIII totally looks like this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/NES_Gauntlet.png
You are much better of comparing DIII to TQ. They have lots more similarities than Gauntlet will.
And the real clone of Gauntlet was Mage Slayer. Everything else was a clone of Diablo (Sacred, TQ, DL, DS), and Nox wasn't a clone of anything.
Keighvin
19-10-2008, 05:13
I may be wrong, but I'm getting a small whiff of sarcasm from Zod.
Gigashadow
19-10-2008, 05:31
I may be wrong, but I'm getting a small whiff of sarcasm from Zod.It would be helpful to know what Zod's like... the fact that he mentioned Nox threw me off.
Sylvanite
19-10-2008, 05:32
I detected that sarcasm as well.
In defense of Giga, he is dead on about Titan Quest. TQ stole pretty much the whole basis of their game from Diablo...and now Diablo is returning the favor by stealing some great innovations that TQ added and adding yet more of their own. This is a good thing. This is how games get better and grow.
I just can't wait till a D and D hack-n-slash along the lines of Dark Alliance comes out using the new 4th edition rules that were obviously designed to go with video games. It'll be great, because they will steal what Diablo did well....and try more new features!
Gigashadow
19-10-2008, 05:37
Yeah, he's being sarcastic... I'm too protective of Nox lol...
Keighvin
19-10-2008, 05:39
Hey, no big deal, and at least someone actually noticed a post I made, which is really a new feeling. I need to bask....ahhhhh.
Gigashadow
19-10-2008, 05:48
May His Shadow fall upon you.
Anyway, from what I remember of Gauntlet it was an incredibly limited game. It was not in any way different from other arcade games like Mario where all you do is control a character and collect items. One of the key things Diablo has that Gauntlet lacks is controlled leveling.
It's like saying Half-Life is like DooM... yeah, it's sorta is... because Doom was sooooo simple that pretty much any game of the same genre was like it. But I think I see where people are coming from. Health orbs, 4 people in Coop at the moment, no potions... It can be wildly referenced to Gauntlet, DnD, Nox, and even WoW. But we can keep making wild references like these forever.
Keighvin
19-10-2008, 05:54
Yeah, but to do that I would really need some p-p-p-pattern.
"Yellow witch doctor has gained a level!"
Okay, seriously though...
Remember that gauntlet and diablo are not rpg's and have never been described as such by their developers.
What Diablo have you been playing? It's hack-n-slash yes, but as such is the very definition of an ARPG (action roleplaying game). Any game you gain levels, allocate skills and become more powerful based on equipment is the very embodiment of an RPG.
Back to OP, yeah I can see the distinction (especially after having played some Marvel Ultimate Alliance this weekend with my roommate, from the same developers as the Gauntlet series) the top-down action game format is similar sure. But the similarity ends there.
And Diablo never had a Jester class. :p
satheron
19-10-2008, 10:59
One of the newer gauntlet games for the regular xbox, it uses a health globe system pretty much like diablo 3 will.
Thats the only thing I can really see as the same.
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