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visom
11-10-2008, 18:37
Is it just me, or does the wizard actually look very asian? (Remember my "asian class" thread? :D)

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z316/alan90_bucket/wiz1.jpg
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z316/alan90_bucket/wiz2.jpg

And yes, we have mana globes
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z316/alan90_bucket/wiz3.jpg

Trailer here (http://www.incgamers.com/Videos/265/Diablo-3-Gameplay)

Matora
11-10-2008, 18:50
O.o Mana globes might make spaming everything at once viable.

visom
11-10-2008, 18:51
O.o Mana globes might make spaming everything at once viable.

Apparently, in that video there were TOO MUCH health/mana globes. I guess we'll still be having a near infinite supply of HP/MP that Blizzard sought to get rid of.

redrach
11-10-2008, 19:01
Well, I think it's better now since you actually have to KILL something to get the refill, instead of just leeching with every hit or guzzling potions. Not to mention there's the added difficulty of reaching the globes in the first place, which may be difficult for fragile ranged characters.

Matora
11-10-2008, 19:04
On the upside, if you're killing things you probably won't be picking up mana at the same time si it should be balanced. It just means you're full and ready for the next encounter.

omgwtfbbqpwned
11-10-2008, 20:23
Yahhh! =D

She does look quite asian. Me love you long time. Huzzah~!

ill logic
12-10-2008, 02:09
About damn time.

And omgwtfbbqpwned:

http://www.blacklava.net/store/product_info.php?products_id=124

omgwtfbbqpwned
12-10-2008, 03:33
Quick sex is okay too, I guess. :[

None the less, an asian, huzzah again! Nice shirt, I should go get it.

MysteryNotes
12-10-2008, 03:36
Yep.
Asian.
It says shes from Xiansai ?
That sounds chinese.
Also, it looks like shes wearing a traditional chinese dress.
Forgot what its called.
Hot chick + Cool skills = pwnage = me like =D

visom
12-10-2008, 04:18
yea she's from xiansai, which is a chinese word ;)

Off topic:
Chinese girls are my favorite of all the asians girls

MysteryNotes
12-10-2008, 05:49
I'm chinese. But im not from China.
Nor am i a girl. =D

Mn_Swe2
14-10-2008, 16:41
Haha... I have to show this to my girl since she's from mainland China (to differ from Hong-Kong).

But this character definately has some western looks too, so I say a mix between chinese and western, like our daughter :)

/Magnus

mince pies
14-10-2008, 20:01
I didn't know there was an Asia in Sanctuary...

Drytchnath
14-10-2008, 21:52
yea she's from xiansai, which is a chinese word ;)

Off topic:
Chinese girls are my favorite of all the asians girls

QFT, my gf is chinese-american. I've known japanese, korean and filipina girls, but so far chinese is the best!

Schwalker
14-10-2008, 22:42
Does it matter that she looks asian?..I mean, the sorc was deffo persian without anyone complaining.

Flux
15-10-2008, 13:28
And yes, we have mana globes
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z316/alan90_bucket/wiz3.jpg

Trailer here (http://www.incgamers.com/Videos/265/Diablo-3-Gameplay)

Everyone's probably read it by now, but the mana globes are enabled by a Wizard skills that increases their odds of dropping. I never saw any fall in the blizzcon demo, since the skill to enable them was too high level to use. It'll be interesting if other chars can't get mana globes; my WD could have used them a time or 2, since mongrels are expensive to summon. Mana regen is very fast (at least now) in D3, so the waiting wasn't that long in any event.

melianor
16-10-2008, 09:33
Everyone's probably read it by now, but the mana globes are enabled by a Wizard skills that increases their odds of dropping. I never saw any fall in the blizzcon demo, since the skill to enable them was too high level to use. It'll be interesting if other chars can't get mana globes; my WD could have used them a time or 2, since mongrels are expensive to summon. Mana regen is very fast (at least now) in D3, so the waiting wasn't that long in any event.

Yup, Wizard skills#Mana_Recovery is the name. Very nice actually. Looks like some fastpaced gameplay. Spamming spells, running about picking up the globes and spamming more. I wonder how high the chance will be, once all ranks are filled for this skill.

teh_Thrasher
21-10-2008, 08:06
i like there being different nationalities in the game. it spices things up. i wonder what the other 2 classes will reveal. probably some "dark" skinned person like the habitants of westmarch ;) haha itll be called the pirate class. it mixes melee skillz with ranged guns and harsh language

Leugi
27-10-2008, 04:24
probably some "dark" skinned person like the habitants of westmarch ;) haha itll be called the pirate class.

I tell you, there HAS to be a swashbuckler class :yes:

yalthar
29-10-2008, 14:56
Yeah we got zombies - obviously we need pirates too.

peasant
29-10-2008, 19:45
And where there are pirates, there must be ninjas.:thumbup:

Leugi
29-10-2008, 19:57
And where there are pirates, there must be ninjas.:thumbup:

And so we have our 2 classes weeeeeeeeeee!

jamesisbest
30-10-2008, 01:00
I think Blizzard is trying to have an ethnically diverse mix of character. Or it could be the fact that Irvine has such a huge asian population that Blizzard was finally influenced by it ;D.

cmc
02-11-2008, 03:13
I think if the wizard was European in appearance (as it appears to be in the early concept art) it would have made the character way too generic and bland, especially since it also has the plain vanilla title of wizard (which I don't like).

I don't see what all the fuss is about. Asian Diablo players (me included) had to play with white characters in the previous Diablo and there are a lot of them. Asians, middle easterners and (to a lesser extent now) blacks are also perpetually portrayed as the bad guys in hollywood movies (and games) where as the Whites are portrayed as the heroes, so it's an unexpected relief that a playable characteris is Asian (i.e. on the good side).

There wasn't any protest and demand for re-skinning when all the characters where white was there? To be honest I think if there wasn't such an uproar on internet forums about people not wanting to play the which doctor because he was a stooped over black guy the remaining races would have all white. Blizzard's just (deliberately) sticking it to all the closet racist out there. That's what I like to think anyway.

On the plus side, maybe there will be less pre-pubesant greifers and racist out there playing Diablo III. :alright:

Mizantrop
02-11-2008, 03:39
I think if the wizard was European in appearance (as it appears to be in the early concept art) it would have made the character way too generic and bland, especially since it also has the plain vanilla title of wizard (which I don't like).

I don't see what all the fuss is about. Asian Diablo players (me included) had to play with white characters in the previous Diablo and there are a lot of them. Asians, middle easterners and (to a lesser extent now) blacks are also perpetually portrayed as the bad guys in hollywood movies (and games) where as the Whites are portrayed as the heroes, so it's an unexpected relief that a playable characteris is Asian (i.e. on the good side).

There wasn't any protest and demand for re-skinning when all the characters where white was there? To be honest I think if there wasn't such an uproar on internet forums about people not wanting to play the which doctor because he was a stooped over black guy the remaining races would have all white. Blizzard's just (deliberately) sticking it to all the closet racist out there. That's what I like to think anyway.

On the plus side, maybe there will be less pre-pubesant greifers and racist out there playing Diablo III. :alright:

I don't think anyone was complaining about the Asian look of the wizard. Atleast not on this thread. Although I do agree that the "other" (read: non-white) was portraited as the "bad guy" even long before Hollywood adopted that trend. (read the James Bond novels by Ian Fleming if you want examples) But you got to admit there's been a tendency to politicly correct this discrimination on most mainstream media products. Computer games included.

cmc
02-11-2008, 04:13
There has been a lot of forum complaints about it on the Official site which Blizzard staff read on occasion. If by politically correct discrimination, you mean there have been an incease in the number of asian girls (with white guys) making an appearances in western media as the objects of sexual desire (such as in DIII :thumbup:), then I agree (although it's never asian guys with white girls in western media, curious isn't. This is a topic I suggest you read up on, also try and find the date where they first showed asians kissing on TV). You only need to see the negativity of the US media during the coverage of the Beijing Olympics (clawing at every peice of negative press and controversy they can get) to know not much has changed. I'm from Sydney, Australia and could see it plain as day. There has been a tendacy for blacks to play the good characters, but I think this more to do with pent up guilt then a true attitude change.

I think the recent precieved positive portayals of blacks (and women) in media in recent times (from 1990s onwards) has created a divide between it and reality such that whites (esp in the US) have attached negative connotations to terms like politically correct. It alludes to a shift in the national concensus, one that has swayed in favour of minority groups when the reality is the opposite. It also attempts to make PC out to be a extremist activity, when there is really nothing wrong about being PC in the first place.

That_Other_Guy
10-11-2008, 23:43
All we're missing is a swarthy Latin ranger, and we'll have a real melting pot!

ShadowHaseo
16-11-2008, 02:55
Cool! Asian chinese!!! woooooo...
She's pretty for sure and her hairstyle kinda suit her appearance.
I love it...

AkumaSlayer
20-11-2008, 11:11
I think if the wizard was European in appearance (as it appears to be in the early concept art) it would have made the character way too generic and bland, especially since it also has the plain vanilla title of wizard (which I don't like).

I don't see what all the fuss is about. Asian Diablo players (me included) had to play with white characters in the previous Diablo and there are a lot of them. Asians, middle easterners and (to a lesser extent now) blacks are also perpetually portrayed as the bad guys in hollywood movies (and games) where as the Whites are portrayed as the heroes, so it's an unexpected relief that a playable characteris is Asian (i.e. on the good side).

There wasn't any protest and demand for re-skinning when all the characters where white was there? To be honest I think if there wasn't such an uproar on internet forums about people not wanting to play the which doctor because he was a stooped over black guy the remaining races would have all white. Blizzard's just (deliberately) sticking it to all the closet racist out there. That's what I like to think anyway.

On the plus side, maybe there will be less pre-pubesant greifers and racist out there playing Diablo III. :alright:

I don't care about the D2 Paladin being black. Or the D1 Sorcerer being black - and I don't care about the D3 Wizard being Asian either... or the WD being black. However, from what I can see from your post it looks like you have issues playing with the white characters from Diablo. WTF.

xchrisbobisx
21-11-2008, 22:29
Ah a asian wizard, asians are frail physically but have big brains to cast magic.
This is more racial profiling than power rangers.
Is a asian not capable of wielding axes and plate armor?! i call for character customization, black archers if you want, asian paladins, white big busty witchdoctors chicks!

melianor
23-11-2008, 06:43
If we are starting to head this thread down the big predjudice road, i would suggest that we simply close it. Behave, thank you.

cmc
23-11-2008, 06:46
I don't care about the D2 Paladin being black. Or the D1 Sorcerer being black - and I don't care about the D3 Wizard being Asian either... or the WD being black. However, from what I can see from your post it looks like you have issues playing with the white characters from Diablo. WTF.

I can guarantee you're the only person that interpreted my post that way. But of course you're simply trying the deflect the racism argument back to me (childish btw), even though it's clear from my previous post that I'm all for diversity of races in DiabloIII. Infact, I think it's a welcome change from previous Diablos where a majority of the classes were white and in some cases inexplicably so, like the Amazon.

Also if I didn't want to play a character because of that character's race, that would make me racist, no need to WTF, that's an obvious implication. Just look at the big thread in the WD forum, some people don't want to play him because he's a hunched over black guy. Also why do some members want re-skinning anyway? Was there any complaints by non-whites when most of the characters were white? That's the point I was making. (which you already know). Anyways, these people are in the minority and most people don't really mind, so I don't feel the need to continually bring this up. (if there is outrage from the next nonwhite class I will then)

AkumaSlayer
23-11-2008, 09:30
I just noted that you put white in italics. I thought you had some sort of problem playing with white characters, and along with the rest of the post it just makes you sound racist. Sorry for misinterpreting it though.

Teleportftw
27-11-2008, 19:28
I can guarantee you're the only person that interpreted my post that way. But of course you're simply trying the deflect the racism argument back to me (childish btw), even though it's clear from my previous post that I'm all for diversity of races in DiabloIII. Infact, I think it's a welcome change from previous Diablos where a majority of the classes were white and in some cases inexplicably so, like the Amazon.

Also if I didn't want to play a character because of that character's race, that would make me racist, no need to WTF, that's an obvious implication. Just look at the big thread in the WD forum, some people don't want to play him because he's a hunched over black guy. Also why do some members want re-skinning anyway? Was there any complaints by non-whites when most of the characters were white? That's the point I was making. (which you already know). Anyways, these people are in the minority and most people don't really mind, so I don't feel the need to continually bring this up. (if there is outrage from the next nonwhite class I will then)

I also interpreted your post as racist. Also many of your observations are false and delivered in a way to intone negative stereotypes and derision.

cmc
28-11-2008, 02:01
I also interpreted your post as racist. Also many of your observations are false and delivered in a way to intone negative stereotypes and derision.

Why don't you expand on that, what part of my post are you referring to in particular?

If you're referring to the part where I said that asians had to play with white characters in previous diablos, I was simply reflecting the same sentiment as whites who do not want to play as non-white characters (I used italics for emphasis) which is obviously racist. That's the entire point of my argument in the first place! it does not reflect how I actually feel (feel free to view my post history if you think I'm a racist). I just put the shoe on the other foot and the accusations of racism come, so if there complaints about whites not wanting the remaining classes to be non-white (or not wanting to play a non-white class) you two are going to be the first to jump on that guy... right????

If you're referring to me saying that asians are mostly made to play the bad guys in hollywood movies and games, I stand by that statement. I thought it was self evident; it's like saying that women are mostly portrayed as sex objects in games, you'll be hard pressed to find a non-asian or a women who disagrees with those statements.

Teleportftw
28-11-2008, 04:03
Why don't you expand on that, what part of my post are you referring to in particular?

If you're referring to the part where I said that asians had to play with white characters in previous diablos, I was simply reflecting the same sentiment as whites who do not want to play as non-white characters (I used italics for emphasis) which is obviously racist. That's the entire point of my argument in the first place! it does not reflect how I actually feel (feel free to view my post history if you think I'm a racist). I just put the shoe on the other foot and the accusations of racism come, so if there complaints about whites not wanting the remaining classes to be non-white (or not wanting to play a non-white class) you two are going to be the first to jump on that guy... right????

If you're referring to me saying that asians are mostly made to play the bad guys in hollywood movies and games, I stand by that statement. I thought it was self evident; it's like saying that women are mostly portrayed as sex objects in games, you'll be hard pressed to find a non-asian or a women who disagrees with those statements.

because I imagine that would end up in the thread being closed. I just wanted to reassure you that the prior person was in fact not the only person who perceives you to have some latent racial issues.

cmc
28-11-2008, 04:50
...latent racial issues.

What do you mean by that? (you also haven't answered my previous question: " most of your observations are false and delivered in a way to intone negative stereotypes and derision" what do you mean by that?). Unlike you or the other poster, I've never actually outted anyone in particular in this forum for being racist (I don't apply the tag indiscriminately fyi).You have accused me of being racist in my post but havent qualifed that statement yet even though I asked you to (your accusation doesn't offend me btw, if that's what your trying to do because it's far from the truth, does the thought of a white bias in media ring true to your ears or something?). If you fear the thread being closed because of a it degenerating into a racial discussion then don't bother to post in it. but... since you felt the need to single me out, I want to know why you think it is. But I doubt I'm going to get anything beyond single line rejoinder from you, since you know you wont be able to justify that remark.:rolleyes:

As I've stated before I just put the shoe on the other foot, where asians have to play a white class and not the otherway around in previous versions, that was obvious in my original post.

Teleportftw
28-11-2008, 07:18
What do you mean by that? (you also haven't answered my previous question: " most of your observations are false and delivered in a way to intone negative stereotypes and derision" what do you mean by that?). Unlike you or the other poster, I've never actually outted anyone in particular in this forum for being racist (I don't apply the tag indiscriminately fyi).You have accused me of being racist in my post but havent qualifed that statement yet even though I asked you to (your accusation doesn't offend me btw, if that's what your trying to do because it's far from the truth, does the thought of a white bias in media ring true to your ears or something?). If you fear the thread being closed because of a it degenerating into a racial discussion then don't bother to post in it. but... since you felt the need to single me out, I want to know why you think it is. But I doubt I'm going to get anything beyond single line rejoinder from you, since you know you wont be able to justify that remark.:rolleyes:

As I've stated before I just put the shoe on the other foot, where asians have to play a white class and not the otherway around in previous versions, that was obvious in my original post.

"because I imagine that would end up in the thread being closed."

I don't want to get into a racial fight with you, I just wanted to tell you that I also think you have racial issues. Obviously you are already getting aggressive, and I imagine if I started arguing the volume would go up 10 fold.

teh_Thrasher
28-11-2008, 07:20
lol wow. this topic is a bunch of boohooing and bickering.

who gives a **** what ur character looks like naked? once u don ur armor u wont be able to see wtf u look like anyways as blizzard has stated for their reason for no character customization.

grow up racists ;) leave ur racism for over xbox live.

cmc
28-11-2008, 08:17
"because I imagine that would end up in the thread being closed."

I don't want to get into a racial fight with you, I just wanted to tell you that I also think you have racial issues. Obviously you are already getting aggressive, and I imagine if I started arguing the volume would go up 10 fold.

Firstly, if you're going to accuse someone of being a racist by using back-handed euphemisms and respond to post with single line rejoinder instead of substantuating your claims when asked (rather politely I thought to, considering I pre-empted with some answers without questions from you anyway), you're either a troll out to provoke a reaction or very young and posting a kneejerk reply out of emotion with little forethought.. I'm guessing the latter. If you think I'm being aggressive with my post, wait 'til you join the workforce kid. :rolleyes:

Teleportftw
30-11-2008, 18:38
Firstly, if you're going to accuse someone of being a racist by using back-handed euphemisms and respond to post with single line rejoinder instead of substantuating your claims when asked (rather politely I thought to, considering I pre-empted with some answers without questions from you anyway), you're either a troll out to provoke a reaction or very young and posting a kneejerk reply out of emotion with little forethought.. I'm guessing the latter. If you think I'm being aggressive with my post, wait 'til you join the workforce kid. :rolleyes:

I feel perfectly happy giving my opinion in a thread without thereafter having to engage in a long argument with an aggressive and condescending racist. thank you very much.

stillman
30-11-2008, 22:57
I think cmc has a point about being confined to certain characters. There a lot of Asain fans and it's about time they get a chr they can relate to a bit better than the overly americanized d2 characters. I mean, d2 got it all wrong imo. Here is the run down of d2 as I see it:

The sorc is a little too americanized and it's hard to distinguish her as a non caucasian. Another problem: she falls into the annoying stereotype of Asians being mental experts/weak physically. As noted above, why can't Asains be stong in video games? The sorc was very frail.

The paladin was made into the black chr for the 'guilt' reason mentioned in a post above. Also, they felt they had to make one of the chr's black to fulfill the political correctedness requirement. This is just my theory on it. Imo, they should have made the amazon black; afterall, she is from the tropical Amazon Islands. This brings us to...

The Amazon: snow white with giant breasts and blond hair, she's the all american dream girl and billboard model. She is too much of a sex symbol imo.

The barb- big huge white guy that Asain fans have had to play for all these years. I think that's a fair complaint because people from all around the world should be able to paly a chr they can relate to more and feel like they themselves are playing the heros.

Necro-another pale guy, lol. Too D&D based imo.

Assassin-snow white again, large breasts, etc. Hollywoodized ninja.

Druid-yet another big tall white guy.

So I don't see why it's a bad thing that Asain players would want to play something a little different.

teh_Thrasher
01-12-2008, 00:47
lol. well Blizzard is an American company based in the USA, so of course they are going to have a bit of influence in making their characters white (speaking of back when d2 was released) u dont ask all those foreign game companies making those free downloadable mmos to make their characters white? they all seem pretty japanese to me but i dont have a problem with that. so u should have a problem playing the characters blizzard feels fits the role of the FANTASY world they created.. hell there may not even be chinese or asian-esque people in Sanctuary.

cmc
02-12-2008, 09:55
I feel perfectly happy giving my opinion in a thread without thereafter having to engage in a long argument with an aggressive and condescending racist. thank you very much.

Bye then, let's recap on some of your 'quality' contributions to this thread:-

I also interpreted your post as racist. Also many of your observations are false and delivered in a way to intone negative stereotypes and derision.

because I imagine that would end up in the thread being closed. I just wanted to reassure you that the prior person was in fact not the only person who perceives you to have some latent racial issues.

I don't want to get into a racial fight with you, I just wanted to tell you that I also think you have racial issues. Obviously you are already getting aggressive, and I imagine if I started arguing the volume would go up 10 fold.

If you have nothing more to add other than calling me a racist (without justification) in every one of your one-line post, you will not be missed by anyone.. kid. You're trying to provoke a non-racist by calling them one. I've obviously hit a button with you otherwise you wouldn't be so persistant with your accusations. You'll be back of course, to get your "last word in" i.e. to call me a racist one last time.. :rolleyes:

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No one has requested that blizzard put in an asian character in Diablo, not in this thread. I can recall one post I made in this forum (not in this thread) where I said that I welcomed different races as I think it adds more diversity and character to what should be all human based classes. I think the game will be bland if every race were the same. In my OP in this thread, I expressed relief that the asian wasn't the bad guy, rather than being able to play as an asian character, since it breaks the trend. Games where asians were the good guys or weren't majorly floored in one way or another are few and far in between: Jade empire (characters appeared westernised however), Total war (strategy rather than character based game). Recent games were asians were the bad guys: Redalert3, Crisis, Battlefield: Vietnam.

I doubt anyone actually believes the Japaneses don't put an ample supply of whites in their games, look at this short list of AAA titles where whites played the antagonist:

Mario Bros
Metriod
Street Fighter
Soul Caliber
Final fantasy
Resident Evil
Metal Gear Solid

This list is far from exhaustive and is in complete contrast to asian characters in US based games.

konfeta
02-12-2008, 13:46
I don't see what all the fuss is about. Asian Diablo players (me included) had to play with white characters in the previous Diablo and there are a lot of them. Asians, middle easterners and (to a lesser extent now) blacks are also perpetually portrayed as the bad guys in hollywood movies (and games) where as the Whites are portrayed as the heroes, so it's an unexpected relief that a playable characteris is Asian (i.e. on the good side).

There wasn't any protest and demand for re-skinning when all the characters where white was there? To be honest I think if there wasn't such an uproar on internet forums about people not wanting to play the which doctor because he was a stooped over black guy the remaining races would have all white. Blizzard's just (deliberately) sticking it to all the closet racist out there. That's what I like to think anyway.

cmc, just pointing out; you came into this thread and started defending the concept of playing an Asian character as if someone was attacking it. Given the lack of "fuss" in this thread about the fact (look how it nearly instantly derailed into mana globe discussion), are you really surprised that your post was interpreted as somewhat negative/insecure?

I mean, I imagine that most people don't care about the "race" of a character in a fantasy game set in a fantasy world. Your OP, whenever intentional or not, was grade A flamebait (if you want a real demonstration, put that exact post in the battle.net forum).

cmc
02-12-2008, 15:13
I actually posted that straight after visiting battle.net, and read all the negativity there (mistake), and when I said that I didn't get what all the fuss was about I was also refering to that emanating from various other forums too, not just this one. I just happened to be visiting this at the same time while browsing battle.net. If you want a demostration of what I mean, put this thread title in Battle.net and watch the thread fill with racist remarks. I guess in a way I took a pre-emptive position in case anyone wanted to go down that road, to a similar extent in the big I-hate-the-witch-doctor thread in the WD forum.

It was also meant to bait, although I was hoping for some actual discussion, not a stupid hurl abuse thread. I was hoping some actual racist come out and bite if I hit too close to home with my comments. I worded my post in such a way that it inverts similar sentiment regarding those not wanting to play a non-white class for no other reason. If it's racist in the case of non-whites not wanting to play whites, it is also the other way round. People who don't care either way wouldn't get riled up in anycase and won't get caught up in the crossfire. Ed: it is obvious though what my position is from my original post and that I do not have problems playing any race, if I did why in the hell would I be posting in a Diablo board, really.

stillman
02-12-2008, 16:51
Well, I think the WD is hated for his gimped looking armor, gimped looking posture, and gimped looking pets, lol. Sorry guys, just trying to brighten things up in here.

Teleportftw
03-12-2008, 00:36
Bye then, let's recap on some of your 'quality' contributions to this thread:-







If you have nothing more to add other than calling me a racist (without justification) in every one of your one-line post, you will not be missed by anyone.. kid. You're trying to provoke a non-racist by calling them one. I've obviously hit a button with you otherwise you wouldn't be so persistant with your accusations. You'll be back of course, to get your "last word in" i.e. to call me a racist one last time.. :rolleyes:

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No one has requested that blizzard put in an asian character in Diablo, not in this thread. I can recall one post I made in this forum (not in this thread) where I said that I welcomed different races as I think it adds more diversity and character to what should be all human based classes. I think the game will be bland if every race were the same. In my OP in this thread, I expressed relief that the asian wasn't the bad guy, rather than being able to play as an asian character, since it breaks the trend. Games where asians were the good guys or weren't majorly floored in one way or another are few and far in between: Jade empire (characters appeared westernised however), Total war (strategy rather than character based game). Recent games were asians were the bad guys: Redalert3, Crisis, Battlefield: Vietnam.

I doubt anyone actually believes the Japaneses don't put an ample supply of whites in their games, look at this short list of AAA titles where whites played the antagonist:

Mario Bros
Metriod
Street Fighter
Soul Caliber
Final fantasy
Resident Evil
Metal Gear Solid

This list is far from exhaustive and is in complete contrast to asian characters in US based games.

you're right, I'm repeating myself mostly. that's because you keep responding with all your attacks while all I have to say is that you have racial issues. which is frankly patently obvious. you're welcome to make another post again complaining about how I'm repeating myself. but it is simply how it is. Perhaps its good though that every new racist diatribe that you go on that someone has the temerity to point it out for what it is.

cmc
03-12-2008, 04:13
you're right, I'm repeating myself mostly. that's because you keep responding with all your attacks while all I have to say is that you have racial issues..

Now, you're covering up the fact that you're not able to defend your own accusations by trolling.. you can't fool me

which is frankly patently obvious. you're welcome to make another post again complaining about how I'm repeating myself. but it is simply how it is. Perhaps its good though that every new racist diatribe that you go on that someone has the temerity to point it out for what it is.

No body will ever take you seriously in this forum. It doesn't matter if someone browsing through this thread disagrees with me or even if they agree with you, they'll appeciate it that I went to lengths to explain myself and clarify my position and will hate the fact you have thrown around baseless accusations behind smug anonymity.. everybody has come across these little twerps online and EVERYBODY HATES THEM. They'll just be glade I've baited you out. :yes:

peasant
03-12-2008, 19:15
First off, as someone who is Asian, I'd like to say I find it ridiculous that making a character a certain race makes him/her more relatable to people of that race. Sure, it would be 'cool' for awhile but the novelty will quickly lose its appeal. Skin color alone is not a replacement for personality or storyline.

Secondly, are you guys for real? You're arguing about who's being racist?! Shouldn't we be using our energy for something a little more useful and constructive? Clearly, nobody here is being purposefully or maliciously racist, which is all that matters. I think everyone should take a good listen to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVndkPWK7qw) and cool off.

WVndkPWK7qw

Cardy
03-12-2008, 23:56
sing songy: "everyone's a little bit raciiiiiiiiist sometiiiiiiimes!" :jig:

GoldenBird
04-12-2008, 00:22
Wowowo, people complaining about an asian character (I don't mean you guys, so don't get all worked up).

Seriously, who cares about what your char looks like? I play to pwn things, not to go OMG MY PALLY'S SKIN IS BLACK OMG!!! I really can't see why people even give a crap. It's pixels on a screen.

And yea, I hate how the media portrays us females. It teaches the morons around me to try to be all skinny and fashionable. I would hate to be like them. I'm tougher than them all and I'm thankful for that (*pokes avvy*).

Teleportftw
04-12-2008, 17:51
Now, you're covering up the fact that you're not able to defend your own accusations by trolling.. you can't fool me



No body will ever take you seriously in this forum. It doesn't matter if someone browsing through this thread disagrees with me or even if they agree with you, they'll appeciate it that I went to lengths to explain myself and clarify my position and will hate the fact you have thrown around baseless accusations behind smug anonymity.. everybody has come across these little twerps online and EVERYBODY HATES THEM. They'll just be glade I've baited you out. :yes:

its not an accusation its an opinion, you're a racist. you're also extremely aggressive and condescending which also fits the profile.

Knight_Wolf
04-12-2008, 19:39
Ah a asian wizard, asians are frail physically but have big brains to cast magic.
This is more racial profiling than power rangers.
Is a asian not capable of wielding axes and plate armor?! i call for character customization, black archers if you want, asian paladins, white big busty witchdoctors chicks!

That won't be possible in Diablo, it will completely ruin the lore of the games, and Blizz already created a diverse world with diverse races ( analogous to ones from real-life ), and each race in Diablo has a specialty .. like witch doctors originating from the jungle and being specialized in certain style of long range combat and magic, or barbarians living on high mountains and specializing in brute combat ... like i said .. both relate to certain real life equivalents ... witch doctors to tribal jungle inhabitants who are usually dark skinned .. and barbarians to norse who are white skinned ... i can't imagine a white skinned jungle tribal warrior or a dark skinned norse viking warrior ... actually as long as there is racial diversity i don't see any problems really.



lol. well Blizzard is an American company based in the USA, so of course they are going to have a bit of influence in making their characters white (speaking of back when d2 was released)

lols back at you, American company ... so what .. America has the most racial diversity on earth ... people from all around the globe ( Asia, Africa, Europe ) live there and are all Americans .. i don't see your point really mentioning it is an American company .. we all know that .. it is irrelevant to the subject.

u dont ask all those foreign game companies making those free downloadable mmos to make their characters white? they all seem pretty japanese to me but i dont have a problem with that.

As for Asian companies ... you are very wrong about that too ... there are many non-Asian characters in Asian games ( actually some of the most famous ) .... Asians have no problem accepting those characters at all nor did we ever hear about an uproar between gamers in japan saying "i hate Mario cause he is White and Italian .. i want a Japanese plumber" ... and all the examples "cmc" mentioned are non-Asian main characters in Asian games.

Mario Bros ( Italian )
Metriod ( Americanized heroine )
Street Fighter ( all races )
Soul Caliber ( all races )
Resident Evil ( American )
Metal Gear Solid ( American )

And while you say you don't have a problem with that ... many whined, made countless threads and cried over having an asian character in their "Diablo" game, as if an asian-esque character is some sort of plague or something ... and don't ask me what's wrong with them .. i have no clue ... racists i guess XD


so u should have a problem playing the characters blizzard feels fits the role of the FANTASY world they created.. hell there may not even be chinese or asian-esque people in Sanctuary.


And actually that last comment you said is a little annoying .... if it is the fantasy world they created then they are free to put any races they think of there ... there is NO REASON why there can't be Asian themed characters in Sanctuary if Blizz wants to have them .. it is more natural and , interesting and diverse this way.

I don't care about the D2 Paladin being black. Or the D1 Sorcerer being black - and I don't care about the D3 Wizard being Asian either... or the WD being black. However, from what I can see from your post it looks like you have issues playing with the white characters from Diablo. WTF.

Guys, you are being really oversensitive really, i read his post few times, "cmc" said he didn't mind playing a game with a white character or a character of any race .. he was complaining about having no other options than playing a white character when there is a chance to implement variety cause Sanctuary lore allows for it ( on the other hand we have true racists who don't want to see an asian character in the game no matter what ... i couldn't believe there are still people this retarded .... that's what it is to truly be racist )

Also .. actually what's with the title of the thread ... "Apparently, we do have an asian character(?)" ... what i'm supposed to understand from that ... everyone already knows the Wizard is an Asian themed class ... so what is that supposed to mean ... seriously ... if that did anything it would make any Asian feel aggressive and discriminated .. what if we have an asian character ... or a character of any race ... i don't really see the point of the OP.

Sigh ... actually the problem "cmc" mentioned is more general really, it is always the portrayal of white people as the ultimate good guys and all other races as retarded villains in all sorts of western media for a long time in past .... many people are changing that in western media and implementing racial variety on both sides ( heroes and villains ), strangely some people are still being racist and whine whenever a hero character is Asian or black ( non-white in general ) ... why some people find it hard to accept racial diversity !!?

And yes ... people can relate more to a character if it is more familiar and recognizable to them ... eventhough i don't mind playing with a character of any race ( as long as it doesn't feel forced ) and it doesn't feel so in D3 at all.

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I suggest we switch the topic back to Mana Globes, before someone truly racist comes in from the "i hate the wizard" or "i hate the witch doctor" threads and starts an actual flame war here .... and i don't think any of the people involved here until now is racist at all .. it is just misunderstanding and oversensitiveness.

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Ahm ... now back to mana globes ... i noticed some people claimed it will turn into something like the potion spam ... i don't think so ..... you have to fight in order to make those globes drop so it requires much more effort compared to simply clicking/spamming a number on the keyboard.


And also it will be much more fun if the globes drop behind a mob and you use your remaining mana and skills effectively to reach it avoiding them then once you get it you unleash hell on them ... that will be much more rewarding indeed ... and i imagine that the "rate of mana/health globes drops" is very balance-able and if reduced can be a more interesting way to make hell and nightmare a much more tense and a tougher experience ( instead of making monsters ridiculously hard to kill and totally immune like in D2 ).

AkumaSlayer
04-12-2008, 20:11
Guys, you are being really oversensitive really, i read his post few times, "cmc" said he didn't mind playing a game with a white character or a character of any race .. he was complaining about having no other options than playing a white character when there is a chance to implement variety cause Sanctuary lore allows for it ( on the other hand we have true racists who don't want to see an asian character in the game no matter what ... i couldn't believe there are still people this retarded .... that's what it is to truly be racist )


As I said, I misinterpreted the post, so case closed on the racial stuff. :) No one here is racist, from what I can see.

raveharu
07-12-2008, 09:01
Apparently, its the way the thread title sounds, feels it has a little sarcasm in it(?)

:smug:

Anyway its nice to have Asian influenced elements in D3, makes the game pretty unique and interesting.