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altima
01-10-2008, 20:31
I will be making lld smite paly 30lvl.Can some of you that have experience in lld tell me if the build is good ?
This is the distribution of skills i intend to use :
12 - concentration
1 - holy shield
20 - smite
rest - charge
As for the equipment i think of using : 6 sox crystals sword/phase blade with 4 shael runes and 2 x 15 max dmg jewels , 3 sox crown with max jewels , 4 sox akaran rodache ( whats better edamage or @ res ? ) with max jewels , blood fist gloves , rare belt with str and life maybe fhr , amulet with 2 combat sk + life ,3 sox armor + life ( are they being sold in vendors ? ) , boots ... i have not decided yet ... goblin toe or something else , rings - maybe some good rares with max dmog or str , maybe booth
How is this build gonna fare agains the rest lld builds ? Any sudgestions will be wellcome.

crawlingdeadman
01-10-2008, 21:17
i dont know specifically about them, but i've met enough and with the general game/lld experience i can safely say:
-fanatacism is the way to go for smiters.
-at some points it's better to pump holy shield instead of smite, i'm pretty sure this is one of them, but check out a calc or something (sorry no link)
-crystal swords/dim blades are not phase blades, they have a much, much lower speed and you wouldnt use them in any case. i do believe the "best" weapon for a 30 smiter is a socketed scepter with +smite skills/+fanat skills or a magic scepter with +combat skills. ias is good, but if you dont have enough put shaels in it. either that or honor in a +skill scepter, not exactly sure, just not either sword you mention.
-max jewels do not work with smite. in your armor you'll put pskulls or rubies. you're not going to be a full smiter though so maybe you'll want maxers anyway, up to you.
-belt = string of ears.
-goblin toe all the way. since smite has such crappy dmg, you use crushing blow from gtoes to nearly kill

edit: like i said, i'm not a 30 smiter expert, so wait on someone who is (if they show up).

altima
02-10-2008, 07:53
Im not sure if at lvl 30 i can put more than 1 point in fanatism . I will try to find balance hs/smite. I will try to find such scepter , are they sold in vendors ?
Also you look like you have experience in LLD , how are the good smiters faring against the rest chracter classes ?
Thank you for the nice and fast answer

IntelligentX
02-10-2008, 09:43
I am no expert at LLD, but I know cutlass has a base speed of -30, but the fastest scepter (War Scepter) has only a base speed of -10. Of course, scepter can has inherent skill bonus and cutless don't (Except +2 pcomb ones I think) and cutless has only 1 range where war scepter has 2 range.

Just my 2 cents.

altima
02-10-2008, 10:05
Does the weapon range applies when using smite ?

BAMFSpecialOps
02-10-2008, 13:03
Yes weapon range effects smite.

altima
02-10-2008, 13:26
Then 6sox superior naga is my best choice i think. Socketed with 4shaels and 2 hels. On switch (for charge ) i will use 6 sox bec de cobin with 4 max jewels and 2 hels or maybe 6 sox lance if i find one. Since the max dmg does not affect smite i will use spirit shield.
How many points i can put in fanatism at lvl 30 ? only 1 ?

noodleOrb
02-10-2008, 13:28
yes only 1

Narc
02-10-2008, 15:19
Here's a idea I've been toying with as a Smite/Charge hybrid... I like doing things out of the ordinary and I do come from a hardcore background, so keep that in mind.

It's meant to look garbagy and solicit duels in hardcore. Basically, meant to look like a smiter (which are harmless in HC), smite until X%, and then charge to finish off (no second chances, which explains the high AR) (hopefully bypassing chicken). All theorycraft, figured maybe you guys can draw stuff from it.

Rattlecage w/ Pruby
Sigon's Gloves + Helm w/ Pruby
String of Ears
Shael'ed Crushflange
Angelic Jewelry
Rhyme Bladed Shield
Sander's Boots

Dream 1-H Weapon (if it's even statistically possible)
80% (Savage) ETH Battle Hammer
Repair Durability
+20 max damage
-30% requirements
~94 - ~176


58% Crushing Blow
8FPA Smite (using fanat, ofc)

Raistlin_Majere
02-10-2008, 15:33
The weapon damage wont benefit smite so using naga will be a waste (too high strenght requirement).

For range 3 a good choice is a 5xshael flail or for range 2 a 6xshael military pick.

Spirit is a good choice for a shield but take a look at Rhyme as well :yes:

For rings SOJ's are good. For helm a good rare circlet or Peasant Crown.

As for concentration or fanatism...both are viable ways to go. Just be sure to calculate the needed speed for the path you choose (fanatism adds speeds but concentration gives more damage).

theheft
02-10-2008, 21:02
I have a level 30 V/T and Ill run through Eq and skill placement im using.

P Crown 15@ 9dex jewel

Smite Switch
+3 Fanat 5 shael warscepter
+1 Paly Skills rare barbed

FOH Switch
+3 FOH,+3 Convition "honour" warscepter
Spirit Paly Shield

Spirit Shroud 15@ +9 dex jewel

Upped Bloodfists

15%DR String
or
24 FHR, 58 life, 30 cold res rare belt

Goblin Toes
or
30frw, 2X cold res, 2X Light res rares

2 x SOJ's

+2 Pally Comb,10fcr, 11@, 30 mana amy....(Not the best for a smiter...)

Stash is 40x 15life charms, pretty much all but about 7-8 have res on them

Skills

Maxed Smite, Holy Shield and Holy Shock plus all pre prevs, left over point went into salvation.

520 smite dmg
620 FOH dmg
-75% Convi

Max resi in Normal and in NM

If you go for level 29 (Eu only....) use a 6 shael military pick or 5 shael flail for range 3...Naga is too slow. Rest of Eq should be similar to what I use, you WONT have a strong charge, so try to get used to switching skills without locking yourself up all the time.

altima
02-10-2008, 22:20
Looks nice ! Do you have porblems with ranged classes - soso and amas ?

theheft
03-10-2008, 17:10
Looks nice ! Do you have porblems with ranged classes - soso and amas ?

Depends on how much res they have :D half the time I just use FOH vs sorcs as they just tele away before I can smite. VS ama's i'll charge in and smite, then FOH as it will stun due to having twirlies then charge and smite.

altima
07-10-2008, 15:58
I made v/t and its more powerfull than i expected and im still without life charms ! Some classes are though - Amas and trapers , but some i cant even damage - wind dudus and ww barbs ... the eq im using is
FOH
spirit sword and shield
Smite 100 ias flail + spirit akaran rodache
Armor - spirit shroud
Helm - some ****ty 1 all skill , still cant find War hat
Gloves - bloodfist
Boots - sanders
Belt - string
Rings - sojs
Amu - 2 pcombat 57 life fire and poison res
4 x 15 life charms

theheft
07-10-2008, 16:20
You playing ladder or non ladder?

If non ladder I can help you out with lifer charms and p crown.

altima
07-10-2008, 16:24
Im on ladder
Thank you for the offer tho :)

theheft
15-10-2008, 19:56
Few screen shots of my V/T.

Needs some better bits of eq, but overall im pretty pleased with it.

http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr185/heftylld/Screenshot016.jpg

http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr185/heftylld/Screenshot017.jpg

http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr185/heftylld/Screenshot018.jpg

http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr185/heftylld/Screenshot019.jpg

http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr185/heftylld/Screenshot025.jpg

crawlingdeadman
16-10-2008, 16:16
he looks nice there, heft. you're east NL right?

theheft
16-10-2008, 18:32
Euro NL unfortunately.