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looklook
16-09-2008, 21:32
Introduction
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#1 This built aims to achieve 72IAS using Phasebade
#2 It doesn't use fanaticism aura but conviction always even as zealer.
#3 This built is GM and follow Europe PVP rules strictly.
#4 Most Duel are fought in 3 matches: 1st Match Default Items, 2nd and 3rd match allows sideboard(bring in your wisp, thunder god and etc).


Why Zeal not Smite?
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#1 Elemental Damage from Aura doesn't add to Smite.
#2 Life/Mana is possible on Zeal, so in melee combat you have the upper hand.
#3 Last Zeal Break point gives 6.2 hit per second compared to smite 4.2 per second

Why Auradin not FoH?
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#1 (Dream) Holy shock aura level 15 gives a yard of 15 and a 800x600 resolution the screen is 16,7 yards, that affects almost the entire screen without the need to "aim".
#2 Base on the above point, you can run around and wait for aura to kill an FoHer.

Why Holy Shock not Holy fire or Holy Freeze
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#1 Lightening Damages gives a minor stun, is very effective combine with pause and 6.2 zeal. This would mean a person needs a minimal of 4 frame faster hit recovery to break the lock without shield, which is a lot.
#2 Only doom gives only freeze and you can't make it in Phasebade to reach zeal last break point
#3 Lightening have the highest damage but low minimal.
#4 A lot of pub classes are lightening base, so have additional max lightening advantage in first of 3 fights.

Skill point Distribution
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1 Defiance
20 Lightening Resist
1 Salvation

4 point requisite
20 Conviction

2 point requisite
20 Holy Shield
17 Sacrifice
20 Zeal

Inventory: Paladin Torch, Anni, Paladin Combat GC and etc..

Total 105 ( Complete at level 94)

Leveling Path: UT to 93, 3 8 prayer Ancient quest to 94

Remarks
#1 You can play around with Sacrifice, Salvation or even Fanaticism. I didn't add Fanaticism, but I believe taking 4 points from sacrifice to achieve 1 point fanaticism, would give better sideboard choices.
#2 Max Zeal to get additional Attack Rating.

Equipment
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Helm: Dream in BV
Armor: Enigma Mage plate

Weapon:
#1 32+/x Grief PB (If you plan to use other runeword, it must be made in PhaseBade)
#2 Hand of Justice Phase Blade

Shield: 45@ Sacred Targe Dream
Gloves: Bloodfist (10 IAS) or blood crafted gloves
Belt: Nosferatu's Coil (10 IAS + life leech)
Boots: Gorerider

Amulet: High lord / Cat Eye (20IAS is important)
Ring: Raven Frost

Switch: CTA 6 + Spirit ST 45@ (Speak for itself)

Total IAS: 32 + 10 +10 +20 = 72
Total Plus Skills: 2 + 3 + 1 + 1 = 7

Remarks:
#1 Phase blade is a must because it allow you to hit last break point with 72 IAS without Fanaticism
#2 Sacred Targe is a must if you want the minimal amount of dex spent to achieve max block.
#3 I think Grief is the best rune word,
#4 if you plan to use Hand of Justice, you may ignore the adding Sacrifice and add to Fire Resist Aura, because fire aura becomes your secondary damage shouldn't be focus on physical but that would the reduce the damage gain from paladin combat skillers and bloodfist, nosf, gorerider, highlord and cat eye.
#5 You can forget about Beast Berserker Axe or Caduceus, because they require 75 IAS and 52 IAS respectively with level 9 fanaticism aura

Attribute Distribution
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Str: Base
Dex: Enough to get Max block on Sarge Targe
Vit: Show Hand
Engy: Base


P v P
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On your conviction aura.. charge/teleport zeal. end of story. for some class you need to run around and let the holy shock aura do dirty job.

You can sideboard in CoA (Ber Ber), HoZ for melee fights, I doubt you will be able to use forti if you didn't add strength, you will have better sideboard choices if you have 1 point in fanaticism

Please provide comments

SimmoK
17-09-2008, 01:54
Ive got one of these chars (currently lvl 93). And he owns in PvP games. Really nice char to play with too. And 4 frame zeal is just so much fun, cant go back now!

I use the following equip:

Grief PB (32ias +396dam)
Dream ST +64@
Dream BV 15ed +16@
Highlords
Stone AP (over 2k def, and nice mods)
Dungo 40/15
Eth Treks 15/15
Raven
20str/15dex/6ll rare ring
20ias 15dex 12 str rare gloves.

With these, I have base str and only needed ~20-30pts in dex for max block, as such, he has ~2.5k life without cta.


For the skill distribution, mine is as follows:

20 Lightening Resist
20 Salvation
~10 Conviction (explained why below)
20 Holy Shield
1 Zeal (with torch + anni + highlords you still get 5 hit zeal)
20 Defiance (by lvl 93)

This char is on EuScL, and like anywhere else, PC skillers are crazy expensive. As such, I have full inven of Off skillers with high +life (my range is +29-44life). Because of this I could afford to max defiance, meaning my pala has 25.9k defense (again, without BO).

The reason I decided to max salvation was simple, 80% more light dam as opposed to more physical dam. The light dam is much more useful in duels, and he still does 800-8k dam with zeal, so maxing zeal/sacrifice is not needed in my opinion. You simply do not need the AR bonus either since conviction lowers defense by 90%.

looklook
17-09-2008, 06:09
Ive got one of these chars (currently lvl 93). And he owns in PvP games. Really nice char to play with too. And 4 frame zeal is just so much fun, cant go back now!

I use the following equip:

Grief PB (32ias +396dam)
Dream ST +64@
Dream BV 15ed +16@
Highlords
Stone AP (over 2k def, and nice mods)
Dungo 40/15
Eth Treks 15/15
Raven
20str/15dex/6ll rare ring
20ias 15dex 12 str rare gloves.

With these, I have base str and only needed ~20-30pts in dex for max block, as such, he has ~2.5k life without cta.


For the skill distribution, mine is as follows:

20 Lightening Resist
20 Salvation
~10 Conviction (explained why below)
20 Holy Shield
1 Zeal (with torch + anni + highlords you still get 5 hit zeal)
20 Defiance (by lvl 93)

This char is on EuScL, and like anywhere else, PC skillers are crazy expensive. As such, I have full inven of Off skillers with high +life (my range is +29-44life). Because of this I could afford to max defiance, meaning my pala has 25.9k defense (again, without BO).

The reason I decided to max salvation was simple, 80% more light dam as opposed to more physical dam. The light dam is much more useful in duels, and he still does 800-8k dam with zeal, so maxing zeal/sacrifice is not needed in my opinion. You simply do not need the AR bonus either since conviction lowers defense by 90%.

Point Taken! but won't you have problem against adsorber?

I am going to remake it soon but don't think I will wanna level it to 94 again.

maybe 93 via UT

SimmoK
17-09-2008, 10:41
Yes, absorbers are a problem. But then again, even with max zeal + sacrifice they will still be a problem. A smiter with high resi absorb gives you no chance.

As always for PvP builds, there are weaknesses. The strength of this char is his monster life and defense. Barbs arent a problem, the 1 pt in smite comes in handy! Just stun them until the light dam eats them.

He is still handy at taking down multiple opponents tho:

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/133/chargeduo2.jpg

Another thing I forgot to mention, and this is a biggie. Because I only put 1 pt into zeal/smite/charge, they are all 'equally' effective in duels. Against sorcs and other tele chars, charge is great to get you in range to use zeal. I use my 'F' keys like a mofo when duelling with this char. You will get a feel as to when smite is better than zeal too. But as I discovered from last ladder, sole zeal chars arent versatile enough in PvP, whereas this build IS. Ive had plenty of 1 hit kills with charge too because it adds so much light dam - yet another reason to max salvation instead of a physical skill.

looklook
17-09-2008, 14:28
Yes, absorbers are a problem. But then again, even with max zeal + sacrifice they will still be a problem. A smiter with high resi absorb gives you no chance.

As always for PvP builds, there are weaknesses. The strength of this char is his monster life and defense. Barbs arent a problem, the 1 pt in smite comes in handy! Just stun them until the light dam eats them.

He is still handy at taking down multiple opponents tho:

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/133/chargeduo2.jpg

Another thing I forgot to mention, and this is a biggie. Because I only put 1 pt into zeal/smite/charge, they are all 'equally' effective in duels. Against sorcs and other tele chars, charge is great to get you in range to use zeal. I use my 'F' keys like a mofo when duelling with this char. You will get a feel as to when smite is better than zeal too. But as I discovered from last ladder, sole zeal chars arent versatile enough in PvP, whereas this build IS. Ive had plenty of 1 hit kills with charge too because it adds so much light dam - yet another reason to max salvation instead of a physical skill.

oic

yes, I am trying to deal with adsorber to make a ZA v A

anyway I have found out a few things while researching and hope to heard your suggestion.

#1 I find that Azurewrath would be a better weapon if you are are only dealing non physical damage as it deals max 500 magic and max 500 cold damage total 1000.. compared to max 400 physical damage provided by Grief PB.

#2 Salvation doesn't seems to add much damage after maxing
with salvation: 1~2721 Damage and 4~453 Aura
without Salvation: 1~2203 Damage and 3~367 Aura
I think the points would better invest in conviction to max it, so that you can beat FoH-er's conviction, and a person with no adsorb will die with/without the additional damage provided by salvation.
Alternatively you can add 10 salvation and 10 to Conviction.

SimmoK
17-09-2008, 14:57
Azurewrath would be an option, but then you would have no leech, and youd need another source of IAS to make 4 frames (only 32+ needed from Grief to make 72% breakpoint).

Also, the 500 magic damage from Azurewrath isnt enhanced by conviction, so youd basically just be adding some cold dam, which is handy I suppose, but I prefer the phys damage of grief because it does enough damage for me to leech off (with my 20str/15dex/6ll ring). The average damage with 4 frame attack from Grief is much higher than 5 frame attack with Azurewrath.

Conviction on my char IS maxed. Its -150 all resistances (lvl25). No point spending any more points. To beat FoHers I just get my 2 handed charger, lol.

Youre saying the difference between 4-453 aura dam and 3-367 aura dam isnt much, but thats around 25%. Try getting a light sorc to duel without her perfect Griffon and see what she says, lol. Over 20 seconds or so it makes quite a bit difference, which is multiplied by -150 conviction.

Try it out for yourself anyway!

looklook
17-09-2008, 15:27
Azurewrath would be an option, but then you would have no leech, and youd need another source of IAS to make 4 frames (only 32+ needed from Grief to make 72% breakpoint).

Also, the 500 magic damage from Azurewrath isnt enhanced by conviction, so youd basically just be adding some cold dam, which is handy I suppose, but I prefer the phys damage of grief because it does enough damage for me to leech off (with my 20str/15dex/6ll ring). The average damage with 4 frame attack from Grief is much higher than 5 frame attack with Azurewrath.

Conviction on my char IS maxed. Its -150 all resistances (lvl25). No point spending any more points. To beat FoHers I just get my 2 handed charger, lol.

Youre saying the difference between 4-453 aura dam and 3-367 aura dam isnt much, but thats around 25%. Try getting a light sorc to duel without her perfect Griffon and see what she says, lol. Over 20 seconds or so it makes quite a bit difference, which is multiplied by -150 conviction.

Try it out for yourself anyway!

Well Azurewarth is also a phase blade =x and has 30 IAS, you can socket it with sheal to reach 50 IAS.

Conviction on my char IS maxed. Its -150 all resistances (lvl25). No point spending any more points. To beat FoHers I just get my 2 handed charger, lol. >> -.- won't this be as good as saying to beat your character, just load up max lightening adsorber?

Youre saying the difference between 4-453 aura dam and 3-367 aura dam isnt much, but thats around 25%. Try getting a light sorc to duel without her perfect Griffon and see what she says, lol. Over 20 seconds or so it makes quite a bit difference, which is multiplied by -150 conviction. >> Quite true, but alright my built still can kill easily without salvation.

SimmoK
17-09-2008, 15:51
True about Azurewrath, but as I said, you still lose the leech which is handy in baalruns. Its a cheaper option to Grief tho if youre not bothered about leech.

And yes, I am saying that to beat this char you just load up on lightning adsorb. He is might effective in 8 player free for all PvP games, but I wouldnt reccomend him for 1vs1. Same goes for any sorc or any build that has most of the dam from 1 element - its easy to accomodate for it by using the right items.

I saw for sale on another forums diadems with 3x Vex, 3x Ohm and 3x Lo runes that a hammerdin used for PvP. Giving him 90 to whatever res he wanted. Id say that this hammerdin could easily kill a zealer or a dreamer regardless. So either way there is no perfect solution to the problem!

looklook
17-09-2008, 16:21
True about Azurewrath, but as I said, you still lose the leech which is handy in baalruns. Its a cheaper option to Grief tho if youre not bothered about leech.

And yes, I am saying that to beat this char you just load up on lightning adsorb. He is might effective in 8 player free for all PvP games, but I wouldnt reccomend him for 1vs1. Same goes for any sorc or any build that has most of the dam from 1 element - its easy to accomodate for it by using the right items.

I saw for sale on another forums diadems with 3x Vex, 3x Ohm and 3x Lo runes that a hammerdin used for PvP. Giving him 90 to whatever res he wanted. Id say that this hammerdin could easily kill a zealer or a dreamer regardless. So either way there is no perfect solution to the problem!

well there is a rule for paladin where by you can't have more than additional 10 maximum resist.

http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=15490782&f=268 > PVP rules

SimmoK
17-09-2008, 17:21
And im sure everyone abides perfectly by those rules in public games...

looklook
17-09-2008, 18:34
And im sure everyone abides perfectly by those rules in public games...

well I do on private games, we are quite strict with it.

we host private torny and stuff like that.. the prize varies up from 1k fgs ~ 5kgs