Best javazon gear w/o price being an issue?

[donttazemedude]

Making a javazon for the first time wondering what hands down is the best gear for her and merc. Already have AP fort and upped eth titans. Using lightning fury as main attack whats the best out there?

[dirtstar]

Making a javazon for the first time wondering what hands down is the best gear for her and merc. Already have AP fort and upped eth titans. Using lightning fury as main attack whats the best out there?


i'm going take a guess on this one for PVM,

Griffs w/ 5-5 Lite or 120/45 30% w/ RFW
AP fort or AP 160/60
Upped Eth Titans
SS or Spirit (switch) or JMOD 20-20 lite
T-Gods or Razortail or Dungos
Laying of Hands or Crafted 2/20/kb passive
Rare Tri-Res boots or Gores
Highlords
SOJ and Ravens or rare leech rings
Crystal sword CTA 6bo (switch)

Merc
Upped Andys w/ 40/15 or 120/45 Eth BV
Eth Bugged AP Fort
Eth CA Infinity

[KremBanan]

Fortitude doesnt offer anything special for a Java. You will want +skills or -enemy-res(facets). For gloves: +3java/20ias. Amulet: +2skills

[Neuuubeh]

Pvm?
Enigma or 20/-20 armor (life of fhr, your pick I guess)
Griffon with 5/-5 in
Jmod 20/-20
Razortail
Raven + some mad str/dex/dual leech ring (preferably with fcr for me :p)
30 frw 10 fhr tri rez boots
3/20 or 2/20/xx str/xx dex gloves
Cats eye or a crafted amu (I like a 2 ama fcr mana life one that helps me with teleing bp).

My suggestion at least :p.


Physical damage boosters are no use to a java, those are for bow users :p

[Perfect Hatred]

My pvm java on Europe non ladder has the best money can buy, crazy really:

eth Titans upped
20/-20 AP with 100 life
Griffon with 5/-5 in
Jmod 20/-20
Bugged belt: http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1161ni2.jpg
2 Bk 5%
Bitter Spur boots: http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1160dm9.jpg
3/20 gloves
2 ama 7 mana leech 19 strength 17 dext +8 all resist +30 poison resist amulet

9 java skillers 45 life
451 poison sc
7 20/5 sc
2 20/11 poison resist sc
perfect anni
perfect torch

switch: 6/6/4 cta with lidless wall

Merc:
eth andy
eth bugged fortitude in sacred armour (check the defense lol): http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1162oy1.jpg
eth Ca infinity

Took me 2 years to collect all that and I doubt its possible to get a stronger javazon.

[lumpor]

You could have a spirit on switch. You have enough str for a jmod so...

[crawlingdeadman]

i just dont understand why everyone's spoonfeeding this kid...

[RawrQQ]

a +6java +30ias javelin will serve you better than eth upped titans, though... expect to pay 40+hrs.

[Neuuubeh]

PVM.
read ;)

EDIT And why 30 ias?

[Perfect Hatred]

You could have a spirit on switch. You have enough str for a jmod so...

Except that when you switch eth titans for a cta you lose the +20 strength from the titans and you wont have enough for spirit :wink:

[Perfect Hatred]

a +6java +30ias javelin will serve you better than eth upped titans, though... expect to pay 40+hrs.

Pvp you're right of course but pvm it doesnt work well. If you are use lightning fury you run out of javalins too fast and have to run back to town to repair which is a pain in the ***. Also a +6 javalin does virtually no damage at all making it impossible to leech mana and life which means very inconvenient gameplay. Also titans has frw which you definitely want.

[Feonn]

Helm: Griff 25/20
Body: AP Eni
Weapon: 6/40 Jav's (At least 30 HR's though)
Shield: 20/20 Jmod
Gloves: 2/20 with 30+ attris and res
Belt: Razortail
Boots: Tri res, 30 frw and 10 Fhr

Switch:
Cta 6 in Eth flail and a Stormshield


That'd be the leetest gear :D

[KremBanan]

I dont agree on AP Enigma. With the str req of the AP and the str you get from Enigma, you will have more str than necesarry.
Also a Spirit would be better on switch for more BO.

[donttazemedude]

thanks for the input guys i really appreciate it!

[dirtstar]

My pvm java on Europe non ladder has the best money can buy, crazy really:

eth Titans upped
20/-20 AP with 100 life
Griffon with 5/-5 in
Jmod 20/-20
Bugged belt: http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1161ni2.jpg
2 Bk 5%
Bitter Spur boots: http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1160dm9.jpg
3/20 gloves
2 ama 7 mana leech 19 strength 17 dext +8 all resist +30 poison resist amulet

9 java skillers 45 life
451 poison sc
7 20/5 sc
2 20/11 poison resist sc
perfect anni
perfect torch

switch: 6/6/4 cta with lidless wall

Merc:
eth andy
eth bugged fortitude in sacred armour (check the defense lol): http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1162oy1.jpg
eth Ca infinity

Took me 2 years to collect all that and I doubt its possible to get a stronger javazon.

those boots are sick and I didn't know forts can go to 4k defense....haha

just curious, can you 1-hit hell baal?

[Perfect Hatred]

those boots are sick and I didn't know forts can go to 4k defense....haha

just curious, can you 1-hit hell baal?

hehe no, Baal has almost 500000 hitpoints in Hell, nothing can one hit kill him. But I can 1 hit kill Hell Diablo which looks pretty cool :yes:

[NASE]

hehe no, Baal has almost 500000 hitpoints in Hell, nothing can one hit kill him. But I can 1 hit kill Hell Diablo which looks pretty cool :yes:

http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4961421&postcount=11

Never say never - unless it has something to do with impale.

[Perfect Hatred]

http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4961421&postcount=11

Never say never - unless it has something to do with impale.

Hitting a monster once and then wait 1-2 minutes for it to die from poison is not what most people would call a one hit kill even if it by definition technically fits the requirement.

[crawlingdeadman]

eh, "godly" hammerdins in full games if unassisted take that long or longer and they have to hit more than once...

[deadbeater]

Kicking sins takes 20 seconds for Baal. I go for sure kill than 1-hit kill.

[NeoRequiem]

I saw the equipments you guys listed, and, while they were all very nice, they seemed lacking in resists. Is low (perhaps even negative) resists not a major issue?

[NASE]

The question is, what is the best? Define best?
Clearly, some people don't think that high resistances are needed on the best build, other such as yourself might think different. That's why one can't answer your question as there isn't an answer.

If you want a clear answers, start by doing a search around these forums trying to find a simular topic as it may contain useful information. If you can't find a good thread, comeback and try to define the bounds in which you want to get the best builds, else you'll never be satisfied what the answers you get.

[Neuuubeh]

I have low resists and still do fine in pvm (by fine, I mean soloing chaos sanctuary in an 8p baalrun within 2.5mins). Most things die before they attack me. Especially larger groups ^^
For me a javazon is a totally offensive build. The only way for it to be viable isnt good defense, such as resists and similar, but highest possible offense. Of course, negative resistances look bad :p. Try to get them within ~+20ish range

[wilikki]

http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4961421&postcount=11

Never say never - unless it has something to do with impale.

That is CRAZY :crazyeyes:

I would make that kind of zon, if I could afford those freaking expensive items...

[deadbeater]

I saw the equipments you guys listed, and, while they were all very nice, they seemed lacking in resists. Is low (perhaps even negative) resists not a major issue?

We zons are not intending to take hits like Ali used to (look where it got him). And we should easily dodge most fireballs. The gloams and the souls on the other hand...well hope that they don't show up.

Just in case, we do use shields such as Sanctuary and Stormshield.

[lumpor]

wilikki, that is only theoretical. The dps is still quite low, she's severely lacking in resists and attack rating etc. Practically, you have to have other equipment, and use plague javelin instead.

A poison dagger mancer can almost reach the same amounts of damage, and have a much higher dps.

[wilikki]

wilikki, that is only theoretical. The dps is still quite low, she's severely lacking in resists and attack rating etc. Practically, you have to have other equipment, and use plague javelin instead.

A poison dagger mancer can almost reach the same amounts of damage, and have a much higher dps.

Yes, I know that it is just theorical, but those numbers are still crazy :)

[lumpor]

I'd rather use a daggermancer, who can reach over 400000 damage as well

[deadbeater]

Ah, but you have to encounter monster's 75-95 resist and their version on Cleansing, which cuts poison time short.

[drake]

I saw the equipments you guys listed, and, while they were all very nice, they seemed lacking in resists. Is low (perhaps even negative) resists not a major issue?

you beat me to it :), javazons tend to have some pretty crappy res.

i also think enigma > any armor because teleport allows you to control your merc and flash enemies with conviction much more effectively. that can add to your killing speed a LOT, especially if you have a lot of frw and you're losing your merc all the time...

likewise, you will have to hold back if you dont have enough mana, so crazy damage with zero leech is just dumb. i dont think the builds posted were like that though.

D2 isnt as simple as damage and life...

here's my "dream build":

eth/up'd titans
spirit (for the half decent res, 33+ fcr is nice too; 20/20 for cows)
enigma ds
griffon's (15ias/15res/whatever jewel, one more ias bp > facet)
3/20 gloves
up'd razortail
rare boots with 2304294 mods including res
highlord's wrath (ias, DS helps with LIs and leech, infinity or not)
ravenfrost (cbf)
mana leech ring with 2398234 mods including fcr (one more bp)

p anni/torch and 9x java GCs of course and whatever you need in res/fhr, rest = +life or frw.

merc (might):
eth infinity ca (duh!)
eth sacred fort
eth andys (ral or 40ed/15ias) (a 120/45 BV doesnt give you more ias than andys + 15ias)

[drake]

"120/45 BV doesnt give you more ias than andys + 15ias"

since i'm sure a smartass would bring that up, i meant breakpoints wise.

[lumpor]

Use mana after each kill instead of mana leech.

[Royal knight]

My pvm java on Europe non ladder has the best money can buy, crazy really:

eth Titans upped
20/-20 AP with 100 life
Griffon with 5/-5 in
Jmod 20/-20
Bugged belt: http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1161ni2.jpg
2 Bk 5%
Bitter Spur boots: http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1160dm9.jpg
3/20 gloves
2 ama 7 mana leech 19 strength 17 dext +8 all resist +30 poison resist amulet

9 java skillers 45 life
451 poison sc
7 20/5 sc
2 20/11 poison resist sc
perfect anni
perfect torch

switch: 6/6/4 cta with lidless wall

Merc:
eth andy
eth bugged fortitude in sacred armour (check the defense lol): http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1162oy1.jpg
eth Ca infinity

Took me 2 years to collect all that and I doubt its possible to get a stronger javazon.

How the hell did u get that belt???? did youu sell your soul to the devil for it that thing is hackeddddddd. if that belt is real i would have heard of it

[crawlingdeadman]

it's an old dupe.

[KremBanan]

Bugged and duped belt. Those Bitter Spur boots are also massively duped.

[Perfect Hatred]

How the hell did u get that belt???? did youu sell your soul to the devil for it that thing is hackeddddddd. if that belt is real i would have heard of it

According to a rumour I heard a Blizzard battlenet programmer loved his javazon very much and wanted to add a good new unique javazon belt to the game. However his bosses disapproved claiming amazons should be weak play characters since amas are girls and girls are weak irl.

One night he stayed late at work and secretly added this new powerful belt to the game. He knew javas must have piercing attack so naturally he added that to the belt. Better throw in some ias and + skills as well to increase offensive power. Hmm he thought, might as well add some defensive power and throw in some damage reduction, resists, slow and stat points. Hmm is there something missing still? ahh of course need dual leech as well :thumbsup: hmm better make sure that mana doesnt run out so adding some + maek as well.

But what about the mayhem she wrecks? Should a girl really have to watch all that bloodbath all around her? course not, lets throw in some - light radius to take care of that :scratchchin:

This belt is no doubt the most ridiculously overpowered item in the game but it really is an amazons wet dream. Every mod on it is godlike to an amazon. The only bad part is that almost all belts like this are unperm and will poof :girly:

Also this belt exists only on non ladder Europe realm. I got my hands on my little beauty 2 years ago and my amazons have been happy ever since :cloud9:

[Crowd Control]

I have to admit, that setup is truly amazing. I think I'd quit the game forever if I ever achieved something like that. I take it you got all the statpoints exactly matching the gear, misplacing none of them?

[NASE]

This belt is no doubt the most ridiculously overpowered item in the game but it really is an amazons wet dream.

Wizgloves?
Bug tals?

There are a lot of very interesting (duped and bugged) items.

[plasmo]

Phoenix is useful to have on switch to regenerate mana. However, the Redemption seemed to slow down my attack speed when it activated, so I only switched to it while running between mobs.

And I always thought the bugged items were neat because they were created by a very rare error in the game programming, although duping ruined them (one person has godly bugged item = cool, everyone has it = boring). Although once the hackers were able to sneak items into closed they created in open, things really got sad, like the white ring (http://img191.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whitering.jpg).

[crawlingdeadman]

According to a rumour I heard a Blizzard battlenet programmer loved his javazon very much and wanted to add a good new unique javazon belt to the game. However his bosses disapproved claiming amazons should be weak play characters since amas are girls and girls are weak irl.

One night he stayed late at work and secretly added this new powerful belt to the game. He knew javas must have piercing attack so naturally he added that to the belt. Better throw in some ias and + skills as well to increase offensive power. Hmm he thought, might as well add some defensive power and throw in some damage reduction, resists, slow and stat points. Hmm is there something missing still? ahh of course need dual leech as well :thumbsup: hmm better make sure that mana doesnt run out so adding some + maek as well.

But what about the mayhem she wrecks? Should a girl really have to watch all that bloodbath all around her? course not, lets throw in some - light radius to take care of that :scratchchin:

This belt is no doubt the most ridiculously overpowered item in the game but it really is an amazons wet dream. Every mod on it is godlike to an amazon. The only bad part is that almost all belts like this are unperm and will poof :girly:

Also this belt exists only on non ladder Europe realm. I got my hands on my little beauty 2 years ago and my amazons have been happy ever since :cloud9:

this made me laugh.

[Perfect Hatred]

I have to admit, that setup is truly amazing. I think I'd quit the game forever if I ever achieved something like that. I take it you got all the statpoints exactly matching the gear, misplacing none of them?

Thanx mate :cloud9: Of course all stats points and skill points placed correctly to fit the gear. Actually I have made 2 different javazons, identical skills and statpoints placement except one of them has dodge/avoid/evade while the other doesnt. I just cant make up my mind whether I like those skills or not :girly:

Although for a superpowerful java like mine with max resists,max block, 20% damage reduction and huge life I think I prefer to take the hits from those small dartblowing guys rather than dodging the hits and having my lightning fury attacks interrupted.

[Tai.]

Personally if cost were no object:

Eth Perfect Titans
Dusk Shroud CoH
Sanctuary Hyperion
2/20 Rare Gaunts with Str/Dex/Res
TGod's
Perfect Eth Treks
Andy's Mask with 15 IAS/30 Fire Resist Jewel
2 Zon Skills/Str/Dex/Res All Amulet
BK Ring
Rare Ring with Mana Leech/Mana Per Kill/Str/Dex

On Switch:
6/40 Javelins
JMoD 20/-20

Inventory full of the basics: Javelin Skillers with Life (1 with FHR for 52% Breakpoint), Perfect Torch, Perfect Anni, Vita/Resist SC's.

This would give you 55 IAS on your main switch which hits both the CS and LF breakpoints and 95 IAS on switch so Baal dies faster than you could imagine. This build also gives you enough stacked resistances that with a Treachery Prebuff (might not be needed, I didn't have many Resist/Vitas) you can tank in Ubers under Meph's conviction.

To sum up, with Conviction from your Mercenary you kill Hell Baal in less than 2 seconds. You can max blocking and hit the 52 FHR breakpoint with base stats if you bug correctly and you never need to use a potion. Once I got my Amazon to this point I actually ended up getting bored at how powerful she was, but I don't honestly think I'd trade the balance of Safety/Speed for anything. She was also built with minimal trading outside of my immediate group of friends. Cubed the Ber for my CoH myself and slowly accumulated the charms through massive cow running and a few trades on the forums here.

Of course, this character was built for Hardcore so your needs may be different.

Cheers
-Tai

[tinncann25]

Alright I read through this thread again...and I feel the need to write up some gear. This is for PVP

helm: Perfect griffons (idk y andys would be better)
weapon: 6/40 javelins
amulet: +2 zon 20 resist all and +40 extra light resist +30 str +20 dex +60 life
armor: 50resistance/45ias/7fhr/9str/9dex/30fire/30light armor with 24fhr (3 15/15 jewels and a 10resist all/7fhr/9str/9dex/30fire/30light jewel)
shield: stormshield/jmod (each has its own uses)
gloves: 2 javalin +15 dex +15 str +20 ias +30 fire resistance +30 light resistance
boots: 30frw 10fhr 40 fire 40 light 40 cold resistance +9 dex
belt: 24fhr +60life +30 str +30 fire, +30 light +30 cold resistance
Ring1: +40 light +40fire resistance +20str +15dex +40 life Half no freeze
Ring2: +40 light +40fire resistance +20str +15dex +40 life Half no freeze
(idk if the two halves make a whole, but one can dream)

hmm gear comes out to
99+ ias
65 fhr

charms
torch, anni, 9-45life gcs, 4 5fhr 5resistall scs, 6 3frw 5resist all scs

in stash
27 3frw 5resistall or 3frw 20 life scs(to swap for lifers against sorcs, amazons)

I think this would be the best money can buy all around dueler, but i think I didnt put in all the bugged gear.

[Vincentrecon]

Except that when you switch eth titans for a cta you lose the +20 strength from the titans and you wont have enough for spirit :wink:

This is totally true as is with the situation on my javazon.
Alright so I basically have a javazon with the same build as this and she has a great time in Chaos in Hell with 8 person. No issues anywhere in hell and it's great but instead of Eth upped Titan's I recommend just a High ED non-eth Titans. You'll find it a lot more useful as with pvm I burn through Javs a lot faster than I do when I decide to swap for a bit of dueling to Eth ones. Eth ones are ridiculously useless for PVM as the damage gain is minimal and most of your damage is probably coming from poison/lightning. That's my 2 cents as someone who is a diehard fan of my javazon. (Oh and in 8 person with her merc out using infinity she can pretty much 7-10 hit diablo)

[MoonUnit]

Eth ones are ridiculously useless for PVM as the damage gain is minimal and most of your damage is probably coming from poison/lightning.

Base damage on eth weapons is +50% before modifiers. I'd say eth titan's are worth it. Then again there are people that go back and forth about the pros and cons of both eth and non-eth versions. :scratchchin:

My stance is, more physical damage = more leech = more LF.

[Vincentrecon]

Base damage on eth weapons is +50% before modifiers. I'd say eth titan's are worth it. Then again there are people that go back and forth about the pros and cons of both eth and non-eth versions. :scratchchin:

My stance is, more physical damage = more leech = more LF.

Got phoenix and you are set to go for most PVM situations. If you are talking ubers or anything, then chances are you are going to want the high end physical damage. We of course, as you said, can look at pros and cons.

But I found that my eth ones were pointless for pretty much anything pvm related. I keep a separate one and my non-eth go a much longer way. Sure for ubers the eth are nice but she still manages.

[lumpor]

Perfect hatred, do you have a youtube vid of that javazon in action?

[Exterminatus]

I have a very well-geared Javazon, thought I'd weigh in on some of the issues here:

- For armor, I tried on my Paladin's Enigma and found that without FCR it's just not worth it. I have on a Chains of Honor and I'm practically invincible.

- Razortail vs. Tgods, I go Razortail except when Burning Souls are in the WSK. Much higher damage throughput in most situations, and more life / mana leech.

- Eth Upped Titans are very well worth it. Even spamming LF after LF I never find myself low on ammo in any realistic situation. The increase in damage means increase in leech, and higher physical damage against the few Lightning Immunes I can't break.

- I use Stormshield because I like 75% block, and the Um in it brought me to max Hell resists. However, Phoenix is a very, very good shield as well. It comes down to preference as to where you want your survivability to come from.


EDIT: Zon is wearing CoH, not Fort. D'oh.

[KremBanan]

- For armor, I tried on my Paladin's Enigma and found that without FCR it's just not worth it. I have on a Chains of Honor and I'm practically invincible.


You dont use Enigma an a Java for fast teleporting around. With Enigma on your Java, you telerun.

[Exterminatus]

You dont use Enigma an a Java for fast teleporting around. With Enigma on your Java, you telerun.

Obviously. But without FCR and with the Dodge / Evade / Avoid locking, it's hard to even get a cast off while under fire.