Shopping Spree in Diablo I

[Clervis]

I've got a few questions and a few observances to verify about shopping from Grizzy.

1) Despite that's Jarulf's guide only says that Grizzy has a max ilvl of 30, it seems there is a lower limit for qlvl's of base items and the prefix/suffix. The qlvl range of a base item is ilvl/4 to ilvl. Yet even a clvl 50 character can shop a flail which is qlvl 7. The same goes for lower qlvl prefix/suffixes. So it seems that after clvl 30, all items shopped for will have a base item qlvl between 7 and 30 and a prefix/suffix qlvl between 15 and 30.

2)From a basic warrior's standpoint, these are the best items available from...
Grizzy:
King's (Bastard) Sword of Haste
Awesome (Tower) Shield of the Tiger
Awesome (Full Plate) Armor of the Ages
Wirt:
King's (Bastard) Sword of Haste
Godly (Tower) Shield of the Tiger
Godly (Great) Helm of the Whale
Dungeons:
King's (Bastard) Sword of Haste
Awesome (Full Plate) Armor of the Lion
Obsidian Ring/Amulet of the Zodiac

3)So I guess that would mean the best pure get up, provided you weren't going for the leech or telekiller.
Helm: God's Helm of the Whale (Wirt)
Weapon: King's Sword of Haste/Speed (Grizzy, Wirt, or Dungeon)
Armor: Awesome Plate of the Lion (Dungeon)
Shield: Godly Shield of the Tiger (Wirt)
Rings/Amulet: 2xObsidian of the Zodiac, 1xGold of the Zodiac (Dungeon)


I just spent a bunch of time leveling up a character for better Grizzy shopping only to realize that a clvl 50 character won't differ from a clvl 31 character at Griswald's. I've been shopping for ages hoping for the King's Sword of Haste, but not luck yet, though I did find a King's Sword of Blood and a King's Sword of Gore. But would people agree with the gear choices above? And has anyone ever shopped a King's Sword of Haste? How long did it take you?

[Lanthanide]

Are you sure that those items fall within the gold caps placed on Wirt and Griswold that allow them to be sold?

I spent a lot of time shopping at wirt and griswold and don't recall ever seeing items that good. I did see Wirt selling a king's dagger of haste once, though.

[Clervis]

Are you sure that those items fall within the gold caps placed on Wirt and Griswold that allow them to be sold?

I spent a lot of time shopping at wirt and griswold and don't recall ever seeing items that good. I did see Wirt selling a king's dagger of haste once, though.

Yea, I'm pretty sure they do. Unless I screwed up the math. Grizzy has a $140,000 cap and Wirt has a $90,000 cap (but the price is increase 50% so you'll pay over that). Weapons, shields, and helms typically can't reach that max. It is only body armor that can be that expensive. And that's one of the main restricting factor in what armor are available in the game.

Those items are pretty rare, and definitely hard to find. But I've been shopping my butt off for a while now and these are the best that I've found:
King's (Bastard) Sword of Blood (+84%, +158%) - Grizzy
King's (Bastard) Sword of Gore (+83%,+163%,+10) - Grizzy
King's (Bastard) Sword of the Titans (+83%, +158%, +21) - Grizzy
King's (Bastard) Sword of the Ages (+79%, +158%) - Grizzy
King's (Bastard) Sword of Sorcery (+100%, +171%, +17) - Grizzy
Awesome Shield of the Tiger (20, +145%, +45) - Grizzy
Godly Shield of the Ages (20, +197%) - Wirt
Awesome Plate (74, +148%)
Blessed Plate of the Tiger (74, +105%, +46)

I've also found a few King's Axes of Haste/Speed as well as lots of King's Bastard Swords and Bastard Swords of Haste/Speed. So it seems that the possibility is there, it's just pretty rare. And for some reason, the King's prefix seems to be very rare and I don't know why. It's more than just having too many other options for a prefix, because I see Soldier's crap all the time, which can spawn on everything that King's can. However, there are only 14 suffixes (that I've counted) that can go on a Bastard Sword and two are what I'm looking for at Grizzy's. So it seems that anytime Grizzy is selling a King's Bastard Sword with a suffix, there is a 1 in 7 chance that it will be a King's Sword of Haste/Speed. Now I just have to get him to start selling King's stuff. The stingy jerk.


Oh, I just thought of rough way to calculate my chances, or at least how long it will take me. Typically speaking, I get about 5 King's items an hour when doing Grizzy runs. King's appears on 9 base items (Flail, Maul, Broad Sword, Bastard Sword, Two-Handed Sword, Great Sword, Broad Axe, Battle Axe, and Great Axe). Provided it has a King's Prefix only 45% of the time will it have a suffix. And if it has a suffix, there is a 1 in 7 chance it will be either Haste or Speed. So, each time I see a kings it will have a (1/9)*(.45)*(1/7) chance of being a King's Sword of Haste/Speed, which is about a .714285% chance (or 1 in 140). Yikes! That means that on average it will take me 28 hours of Griz running to find a King's Sword of Haste/Speed.

[Cet]

While is has been several years ago and "could" have changed in the patches since then, i have bought a bastard variety King's Sword of Haste from Griz before and so it is possible .....

[Flux]

I've got a few questions and a few observances to verify about shopping from Grizzy.

2)From a basic warrior's standpoint, these are the best items available from...
Grizzy:
King's (Bastard) Sword of Haste
Awesome (Tower) Shield of the Tiger
Awesome (Full Plate) Armor of the Ages
Wirt:
King's (Bastard) Sword of Haste
Godly (Tower) Shield of the Tiger
Godly (Great) Helm of the Whale
Dungeons:
King's (Bastard) Sword of Haste
Awesome (Full Plate) Armor of the Lion
Obsidian Ring/Amulet of the Zodiac


Godly/tiger isn't possible on a shield, since godly is qlvl 60. pre/suf qlvls have to be within 50% of each other, and tiger is qlvl 21.

http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Modifiers#.2BLife

There actually aren't any good suffixes on godly shields. I used to wind up with "of the ages" mine in D1 days, though looking at the pre/suf list now, that shouldn't be possible either, since of the ages is only qlvl 25.

At any rate, I'd say awesome/tiger or even obsidian/tiger beat godly tower of nothing, assuming you've got high enough AC from your other gear that the loss on shield AC isn't going to hurt. Monsters have a minimum 30% to/hit in Hell, so it's not like you can get to the 95% untouchable D2 status.

Also, KSoH/S are buyable from Gris in Diablo. speed is qlvl 19, Haste is is qlvl 27, of gore is qlvl 25. King's is qlvl 28, so if you're seeing that, you should see all the others. It's just that there are a lot of possible suffixes.

On your gris armor selection, why awesome/ages? is awesome/tiger-lion too expensive? Those are readily available in Hellfire, at least, but they upped the price limit there, so maybe it's above the D1 threshold. I've put some hellfire shopping tips and screenshots of item buys on the wiki page now. Ob/zods are actually quite affordable.
http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_NPCs#Hellfire_Inventory_Strategy.

Personally, I preferred awesome/stars for armor, in the D1 days. I'd rather add mana, to/hit and damage rather than just hps, when warriors had quite a few of those already. By the same token,


3)So I guess that would mean the best pure get up, provided you weren't going for the leech or telekiller.
Helm: God's Helm of the Whale (Wirt)
Weapon: King's Sword of Haste/Speed (Grizzy, Wirt, or Dungeon)
Armor: Awesome Plate of the Lion (Dungeon)
Shield: Godly Shield of the Tiger (Wirt)
Rings/Amulet: 2xObsidian of the Zodiac, 1xGold of the Zodiac (Dungeon)

How can you not go for a telekiller? Witches and mages aren't exactly uncommon in hell, and all the melee monsters are basically the same (and relatively easy), for a warrior. Swing swing swing and wait for them to get into range. I'd always take zod or heavens over +hps, since it just does more overall for the character. And gold/zod for one jewelry? I'd much rather have dragons/zod, if we're talking dream setup. You'll have way over 250% to/hit from a kings sword and your other +dex gear, and 30% to/hit from gold wouldn't make any real difference at that point.

I just checked my one Hellfire warrior. He's only level 28, with terrible jewelry. Moon/stars/heavens, a crown of the moon, etc. He'll add at least +50-60 to all when he gets better gear, and with an 88% to/hit king's sword (claymore) he's already at 198% to/hit.

[sevencreature]

Absolutely best sword is KSoS, correct?

[Clervis]

Absolutely best sword is KSoS, correct?

Yea, KSoS or KSoH. It seems the Speed and Haste modifiers are exactly the same despite the implied difference.


Thanks for your help Flux. You seem to be a treasury of knowledge on DI. I'm not playing in Hellfire by the way, so that's why I said Awesome of the Ages was the limit, everything else is too expensive. Actually, that might be a little too expensive, now that I think about it. But the best you can find from monsters is Godly of Lion.

I also happen to have a Godly Shield of the Ages, so that 50% qlvl range is right except that the lower end can't be more than qlvl 25. So, if you're clvl 30, wirt will sell qlvl mods from 25 to 60. So, you're right 21 from Tiger is too low but 25 from the Ages works. I've got an Awesome Shield of the Tiger and a Godly Shield of the Ages and I was planning on comparing the two of them once I got all my other gear in line.

I was just approaching this from the pure melee perspective. I agree that the mage build is probably the best overall route, but you can always switch out gear depending on the level so I was focusing on the hand-to-hand situations.

[Clervis]

Ok, so it seems I was low-balling it on the predictions of how long it will take Grizzy to supply you with a KSoH/S. I've improved my shopping technique and payed careful attention to how often he hands out King's items. It seems it's more like 10 King's items per hour (not 5 like I said before). That means that on average, it will take about 14 hours of hardcore shopping to find this holy grail. Also, from this we can figure out the basic chances per trip to his shop. I usually make about 220 trips per hour. So, for a character level 29 or higher, Griswald has a 1 in 3080 chance to sell you a King's Sword of Haste or Speed. Of course, that's experimental probability, so it could vary, but I think that's pretty close to actual.


Oh, and thanks Flux for pointing out that Hell enemies have a minimum of a 30% chance to hit you and chance to it is a smaller deal. Here's what I found--and keep in mind this isn't for Hellfire, though that doesn't vary too much. No monster has AC over 165. The total chance to hit is:
50+Dex/2+ToHit+clvl+WarriorBonus[20]-EnemyAC.
That means that a clvl 30 Warrior with KSoH(76-100) and base dex(60) will have:
50+30+76to100+30+20-165=41 to 65% chance to hit
Compare that too a little more seasoned Warrior: clvl 35 & 90 dex
50+45+76to100+35+20-165=61 to 85% chance to hit
Keep in mind this is the most armored enemy, but most enemies in Hell have close to 150 AC. So, I think Gold can significantly enhance you're killing ability. But, I suppose I was originally thinking about the "best gear." And once you get the "best gear" you'll have at least 100 dex and a good King's so Gold wouldn't be necessary.

Then there is the matter of how much armor your character should have.
The enemy chance to hit goes up to 250 and the final 'to hit' is equal to:
30+EnemyToHit+2*(mlvl-clvl)-Dex/5-AC
So my clvl 30 character for instance with his Awesome Plate, Godly Shield, and Gotterdamerung will have 183+58+60=301 AC and 88 Dex against a Blood Knight in hell mode:
30+250+2*(60-30)-88/5-301=22%
That character is pretty highly focused on AC and while that might not matter on dungeon level 16 which is always at least 30%, it could make a difference in other. But I guess it's all a big balancing act in the end.


Also, some good and bad news on the shopping spree.
Good news: As I said, I realized Grizzy hands out King's twice as much as I thought he did.
Bad news: KSoH/S have only moved from insanely rare to ridiculously rare.
Good news: I finally found a King's Sword of Speed!
Bad news: It's on a two-handed sword.
Good news: I found a King's Flail of Haste with +100% to hit, and +170% damage
Bad news: It's so close to what I want that it makes me even more crazy.

Don't you think it's funny that the best one hand weapon in the game only deal 30% more damage per hit than a punch. Maybe that's 100% to hit Flail is pretty good after all.

[Lanthanide]

I would have bought the flail, especially 'cause of its stats, and gone and gotten some more gold before I went shopping again.

Also note that nothing can drop Godly in the dungeon. The best prefix possible is Emerald at qlvl 34. I believe Holy is qlvl 35, so unfortunately you miss out on that one too.

[Kunzaito]

The standard accepted "best shield" for a warrior is a Awesome Shield of the Tiger. According to Bolty's guide, though:

"It is possible to get a better shield - a Holy Shield of the Mammal. This is very difficult, however, since due to the method Diablo uses to determine what can be sold at what character level, a Holy Shield of the Mammal can only be purchased when your character is levels 18-21, from Wirt. This makes this shield VERY rare, since Wirt is your only source for this item."

As far as full plate mail, I don't know the exact reasoning but I am almost 100% certain that you cannot legitimately obtain a Godly full plate of anything. I'm pretty sure Awesome full plate of the mammal/stars/harmony is the best you can get.

[Flux]

I was curious about the godly/ages thing, so I looked it up in Jarulf's. A quote:

As explained in chapter 3.8, the qlvl of a prefix and a suffix must be in the range of:

ilvl/2 - ilvl: for non Wirt and Adria items, including items from the dungeons
ilvl - 2·ilvl: for Wirt and Adria items

Items from Adria only follow Wirt if they are staves without spells. From this it follows that the prefix or suffix with the lowest qlvl on an item can never be higher than half (rounded down except for Wirt and some Adria items) the qlvl of the higher one (the other way around the higher level can never be higher than 2 times the lower one, plus one if odd, (except for Wirt and some Adria items) the plus one due to rounding effects if the item does not come from Wirt or Adria). As noted in the same chapter the exception for this is that if the highest limit of the qlvl is higher than 50 the lower limit is always 25. This rule can quickly rule out an item like obsidian shield of brilliance as impossible as the qlvl of the prefix and suffix is 24 and 11. This only has importance if an item has both a prefix and a suffix.

so yeah, the prefix and suffix have to be roughly 50% of each other's Qlvl, but the main exception is with the highest level mods, which will combine with mods of 25 or above. Almost nothing is effected by this, since qlvl 50+ mods are so few.

http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/D1_Modifiers

Qlvl 50: osmosis.
qlvl 60: of the whale, of hydra, godly, strange, of slaughter, merciless, of thunder

That's it, by my quick scan, anyway.

Also note that the highest mlvls in the game are 30, or 34 for bosses found on levels 15 and 16. Including Diablo. In Hellfire Diablo and Na-Krul drop at 44 and 45, but that's still much too low for any of those qlvl 50+ mods. So nothing on the above list can ever be found in the game, anywhere, except from Wirt. And in quite a few cases those mods can't be obtained from Wirt either, thanks to the price limit.

No, the d1 designers didn't really think through their drop limits and requirements at the highest item levels that thoroughly.

They realized that at some point, hence King's being lowered to qlvl 28, or else items with that mod would be as rare as Godly. It must have originally been 50 or 60, since the mod below it in that family, Champion's, is 40. And is thus beyond what monsters can drop or Gris can sell, and is therefore far rarer than Kings.

[Flux]

Oh, and thanks Flux for pointing out that Hell enemies have a minimum of a 30% chance to hit you and chance to it is a smaller deal. Here's what I found--and keep in mind this isn't for Hellfire, though that doesn't vary too much.

I wasn't sure about the figure, so I checked it in Jarulf's.

Monster auto To Hit values:
melee: 15%
arrow: 10%
magic: 10%
on dungeon level 14: 20%
on dungeon level 15: 25%
on dungeon level 16: 30%

so I was correct, but only for lvl 16. Not for all of hell. Your char can, of course, block some amount of that 30%.

[Lanthanide]

As far as full plate mail, I don't know the exact reasoning but I am almost 100% certain that you cannot legitimately obtain a Godly full plate of anything. I'm pretty sure Awesome full plate of the mammal/stars/harmony is the best you can get.
I think you might be able to get Holy FPM from Wirt. Pretty sure you can get Holy Gothic plates, anyway.

Best item I ever found was a AFPMoS, although it was quite early on in my career so I stupidly traded it away to someone for some much inferior items. It wasn't a very good one though, IIRC the base armor was something like 63 and the % was like 140%, although the stars was +9.

[Clervis]

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Armor

I think you might be able to get Holy FPM from Wirt. Pretty sure you can get Holy Gothic plates, anyway.

Wirt can only sell up to Holy Plate Mail. The Holy prefix has a multiplier of 17 off of the following base prices:
Scale Mail - 2300*17=39100
Splint Mail - 3250*17=55250
Breast Plate-2800*17=47600
Plate Mail - 4600*17=78200
Field Plate -5800*17=98600
Gothic Plate - 8000*17=136000
Full Plate Mail - 6500*17=110500

Wirt has a price cap of 90,000 (that's before he taps on a 50% convenience fee) so the best Holy armor available is the Holy Plate Mail, which would be up to 50*2.70=75 (a far cry from Awesome Full Plate Mail at 75*2.50=187.5).

Griswold can go up to 130,000. Awesome Full Plate Mail is 6500*15=97,500 plus a quality cost of up to 2,000. So we're talking 30,500 worth of wiggle room for a suffix that has to be qlvl 14 or above and with a multiplier of 4 or less. Unfortunately, any suffix above qlvl 14 will have a much larger multiplier than 4, so that's the best he can provide. Saintly Plate is the same story (except SFPMotAges). So you'd have to go down to Blessed Full Plate Mail to get anything good.

The dungeon, on the other hand, does not have a price limit. So a monster can drop anything within his ilvl ranges. Those, as Flux said, go up to qlvl 34. This can provide you with up to Awesome FPM, and it can provide you with any available suffix at qlvl; the best include: the Stars, the Lion, Deflection, and Harmony.

So, the best armor most likely seems to be Awesome Full Plate Mail of the Lion/Stars/Deflection/Harmony, whatever you prefer.


Shield
The standard accepted "best shield" for a warrior is a Awesome Shield of the Tiger. According to Bolty's guide, though:

"It is possible to get a better shield - a Holy Shield of the Mammal. This is very difficult, however, since due to the method Diablo uses to determine what can be sold at what character level, a Holy Shield of the Mammal can only be purchased when your character is levels 18-21, from Wirt. This makes this shield VERY rare, since Wirt is your only source for this item."

If ASotT is the best, then I'm set. I've got one with 20 base, +145%, +45 life.

Bolty could be right, but he'd be in disagreement with Jarulf's Guide, which says +life suffixes on shields only go up to tiger. From my experience, I've never seen Grizwold sell a shield of wolf despite it being within his qlvl/cost limits. So, I'd have to side with Jarulf and say that that's impossible.

What is possible, is Wirt selling even a Godly Shield (I have a Godly Shield of Ages). Once you're clvl 30 he can sell anything between qlvl 25 and 60 (which is within his price limit for shields). So, Godly Tower Shields can give any available suffix at or above qlvl 25, which can only be of the Ages.

So the best shields are either Awesome Tower Shield of the Tiger or Godly Tower Shield of Ages.


Weapon

Most the best is the King's Sword of Haste/Speed. Haste and Speed provide the exact same swing quickening. That King's Flail of Haste that I found could actually be better than a low end King's Sword of Haste and here's why.
A King's Sword of Haste will provide you with 6 to 15 damage plus up to 175%. That's 16.5 to 41.25, or 28.875 on average. A warrior with maxed strength will deal 74 damage with a punch. That means that the best weapon in the game only provides you with 39% more damage per swing. The flail that I have will provide 26% more. Now, because To Hit is linear (unlike Diablo 2), 10% more To Hit will make you deal at least 10% more damage against an enemy, provided you're not below or above the 5% or 95% limits respectively.
Final Chance to Hit=70+Dex/2+ToHit[Items]+clvl-AC[Monster]
Actually, if your fighting a Azure Drake, for example, and you've only got a 10% final chance to hit him, adding 10% more will make you dish out twice as much average damage. Therefore, if I were to choose between my King's Flail of Haste (+100% to hit) and a King's Sword of Haste with, say, +90% to Hit, I'd go with the Flail because against a monster that I have only, say, 75% chance to hit, that 10% will make me deal out more average damage than the 13% difference in damage between the Sword and the Flail.

So, by this same line of reasoning, a Strange Sword of Haste (+150% to Hit), bought from Wirt, can be superior to a King's Sword of Haste especially in Hell, where To Hit really suffers. As I said before, a perfect King's Sword of Haste will only give you up to 39% more average damage, or 28.5% better than the SSoH. That means that if you're Final Chance to Hit is less than 73%, than the Strange Sword of Haste will be superior. And that can be quite prevalent in Hell mode against enemies with more than 150 AC.

In fact the typical range of enemy AC is between 140 and 165 (besides wimpy mages) in Hell on Hell difficulty. That means you'll have to have at least 212% To Hit (caculated, not displayed) in order to gain more from a King's Sword of Haste. Interesting, huh?

Also, I suppose I should mention King's Axe of Haste, the best two-handed weapon. Like I said, weapon damage isn't the maker of damage like it is in D2, this axe will only be 78% stronger than a punch and only 39% strong than a KSoS, which isn't worth sacrificing ability to block and the goodies that can come on a shield.

Helm

I don't really have much to say here, because it varies on your strategy, preferences, and needs as a character.

Royal Circlet: 40AC, +10 all attributes, and lots of +mana. Good for a telekiller.
Helm of Sprits: Leech, nothing else. The only possible way to leech with a KSoH.
Godly Great Helm of Whale: up to 45AC and 100 life. Good if all you need is life.
Gotterdamerung: 60AC, +20 all attributes, and more. Awesome for non-magical enemies.

I usually carry around a couple of helms with me for different situations.


Jewelry

Obsidian Jewelry of the Zodiac is ultra-rare, but the best out there.

After you've maxed your resists, you could go for the Gold (+21-30 to Hit) if your Final Chance to Hit isn't near 95% on most enemies. Dragon's is good for the telekiller.

On the suffix side, Zodiac is typically the best option. But there are a few other good ones. Harmony will half the time it takes you to recover from a hit. Perfection is good because dexterity increases your AC, chance to block, and chance to Hit, so it's an all around great thing to have, especially considering Zodiac provides you with +Str, +Vit, +Mag, and the benefits of those aren't nearly as good as the extra +10 Dex from Perfection. Lion or Life are equivalent if you really want extra red bubble.



So, in summary, my dreamiest of dream get-ups would be:
Obsidian Ring of the Zodiac
Obsidian Ring of the Zodiac
Dragon's Amulet of the Zodiac
King's Sword of Haste
Awesome Shield of the Tiger
Awesome Plate of Harmony
Switching Helms between Helm of Sprits, Royal Circlet, and Gotterdamerung

I went with Dragon's because at clvl 35 with 3 zodiacs and a perfect KSoH, you'd just have 95% Final Chance to Hit on everybody. The helms would vary depending on the enemies.

What do you think?

[Lanthanide]

Good luck finding the jewelry :)

I only ever found like 7 zodiac jewelry items, and none of them ever had prefixes.

[Clervis]

I did just find a Obsidian Ring of the Stars (39/8). That was pretty sweet!

[Flux]

one point on the best weapon question.

A flail, or any blunt, has the 50% damage penalty against animals. (swords have 50% against undead, but you never see those past the cats.) So factor in that your flail would be much slower against animals than a sword, (which is 150% damage against animals, or 3x the damage of a blunt). However, the only animals in hell are acid dogs, and you can only get them on 13 and 14. (In Diablo. In Hellfire Hell Witches are also Animals.)

so yeah, a top seed king's flail would beat a low seed king's sword (esp if you had a broad sword instead of a bastard) against demons, but if you got acid dogs on at least one level every other game, and the flail took 9-12 hits on them, vs. 3-4 for a sword, that would probably negate the overall improvement.

(Of course you could get your chain up to slvl 8 or 10 and wipe out any number of acid dogs in the blink of an eye.)

That's for hell only, though. The caves are just full of animals and empty of undead, so a sword is far faster than a blunt in those levels. I'd say they were about even in the Crypt, if you're in Hellfire. Plenty of undead and animals in those levels, though I've never actually counted them up for the sake of comparison.

[Clervis]

That's a good point. I never realized there was the disparity. Thank you.

[Alash]

Wirt has a price cap of 90,000 (that's before he taps on a 50% convenience fee) so the best Holy armor available is the Holy Plate Mail, which would be up to 50*2.70=75 (a far cry from Awesome Full Plate Mail at 75*2.50=187.5).

You seem to have your wish list set up pretty nicely, so I doubt this will make a difference. Still, credit where credit's due, and the Holy Plate Mail isn't nearly as bad as the above math suggests.

[weakwarrior]

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Armor



Griswold can go up to 130,000. Awesome Full Plate Mail is 6500*15=97,500 plus a quality cost of up to 2,000. So we're talking 30,500 worth of wiggle room for a suffix that has to be qlvl 14 or above and with a multiplier of 4 or less. Unfortunately, any suffix above qlvl 14 will have a much larger multiplier than 4, so that's the best he can provide. Saintly Plate is the same story (except SFPMotAges). So you'd have to go down to Blessed Full Plate Mail to get anything good.



Saintly Full plate of precision is buyable, and not too shabby.

[V12V12]

Try this on for size: http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=713526 this was being sold by Wirt... I was so mad, stupid arse game...

[jimbtx]

Now I recognise that Wirt doesn't sell certain weapons unless you're playing certain characters. No melee weapons or plus magic items for my rogue.

But, how come I never ever see a helm with the Stars suffix?? And, I swear. allmost Every single bow by wirt has the resist all for the prefix!!

Griswold on the other hand. I make it a rule every time I'm ready to start a new game with all my gear loaded. I keep checking him and reload new game until I get what I want. He has better variety and selection.

But, due to the limited space with my Mas set and such. I find that the only thing wirt is good for is to by super expensive jewelry that I can resell to buy off of Griswold faster.

A ring that resells for 25k still takes up one space vs 5 spaces of gold.

[V12V12]

Wait, wait... I've forgotten — at what clvl (currently 24) are my best chances to get a KSOH or SSOH??? I've been Griz-Shopping for hours with no signs, cept for a KAxeOH

[V12V12]

Blah wrong post...del if you would plz.

[weakwarrior]

Incidentally, King´s basty of haste cannot be bought from Wirt in classic diablo; it´s too expensive. You can buy a king´s basty of speed though.

[cralz]

Hi,

A more traditional shopping spree might take place when someone needs to purchase many things at once, as for shopping for holidays. I am going on a shopping spree, and I plan on only bringing a carry-on. I need some good, strong yet small and portable shopping , can you tell me were can I buy?

Good luck.




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What the hell is this crap? Did a person actually search for the keywords "shopping spree" on this site, set up an account, and post this in the hope of selling watches? Or is it a bot?

[Clervis]

Has to be a bot....I think. Pretty hilarious though!